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Bowe Bergdahl, once missing U.S. soldier, charged with desertion

Good stuff, your assumptions don't matter much here. I know what you know, that the soldiers only came forward in June. Do you have evidence of anyone saying something different before he was brought? For your assumption to work, it relies on the position that the soldiers were coming forward with this before he was brought back. Were they? Where is the evidence?

The soldiers came forward PUBLICLY as soon as the deal was consummated. But ...
Many of Bergdahl's fellow troops -- from the seven or so who knew him best in his squad to the larger group that made up the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division -- told CNN that they signed nondisclosure agreements agreeing to never share any information about Bergdahl's disappearance and the efforts to recapture him. Some were willing to dismiss that document in hopes that the truth would come out about a soldier who they now fear is being hailed as a hero, while the men who lost their lives looking for him are ignored.

Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero - CNN.com

The Army began investigating Bergdahl soon after he disappeared and were at least suspicious.
Yes, it's an assumption that the Army investigation would have talked to his fellow soldiers ... the ones who came forward immediately after the deal.
Pretty crappy investigation if they didn't. And given the non-disclosure agreements it's a pretty good assumption, don't you think?
And along with that assumption comes one that the Army would have mentioned that to their Commander In Chief.
 
Wait, are you trying to claim that you somehow showed me up by posting something in response to someone else? What the hell is wrong with you?

Are you trying to explain why you can't read a thread and only read certain posts again. See there.....now you know why you have all this trouble around here. But thanks for pointing out what you have trouble doing. :roll:
 
Are you trying to explain why you can't read a thread and only read certain posts again. See there.....now you know why you have all this trouble around here. But thanks for pointing out what you have trouble doing. :roll:

You're making no sense.

Please enjoy having the remainder of this conversation by yourself.
 
The soldiers came forward PUBLICLY as soon as the deal was consummated. But ...


Fellow soldiers call Bowe Bergdahl a deserter, not a hero - CNN.com

The Army began investigating Bergdahl soon after he disappeared and were at least suspicious.
Yes, it's an assumption that the Army investigation would have talked to his fellow soldiers ... the ones who came forward immediately after the deal.
Pretty crappy investigation if they didn't. And given the non-disclosure agreements it's a pretty good assumption, don't you think?
And along with that assumption comes one that the Army would have mentioned that to their Commander In Chief.



Yeah that Pentagon investigation in 2010 puts all that he didn't know into perspective eh, B! :2wave:


Of course we can all think like they do and believe the Pentagon didn't say anything to team BO.
 
You're making no sense.

Please enjoy having the remainder of this conversation by yourself.


That's alright Kobie.....now that all know you didn't have anything to contribute. You can take off and think about that. Myself, I would hope you are thinking that others don't see how you play it, saying you don't care. :lol:
 
You and others can attach titles to those prisoners like "senior" and "leaders," but they are meaningless. We're talking about organized groups of terrorists in which everyone is expendable and easily replaceable including the "senior" militants and "leaders" among them. Pretty much all of the "top militants" who have been killed or captured over the last 13 years were replaced by someone else in the days or weeks that followed.

I would disagree that they are meaningless terms, and would I also disagree that these leaders don't have an impact on the combat effectiveness of the people that they are leading. Fact of the matter is that they do. They elevate it.

Kind of like "Mission Accomplished"--we're still dealing with that hollow victory.
We may never know the end cost/benefit analysis in my lifetime.

And then we have the three dumbest words of all time--"Bring It On".
I'm sure you would agree that "THEY" have brought it on.

"Smooth move there eh ex lax" as we both might say to Bungling Bush .

The "Mission Accomplished" that you mock is debunked, as it was applicable to that ship and it's mission only, just happened to be in back of shot, so taken out of context for the purpose of baseless mocking, belittling and marginalizing others with whom they disagree. Typical.

Mornin EB. :2wave: Even better was the BO peep excuse of......they found out they were going to kill him. Despite being able to do so at any given time. Despite threatening to do even before the swap. What BO didn't want out there was the fact that he was Negotiating with terrorists. The Same terrorists tied to AQ and the Same ones that BO gave an Office to in Qatar.

Going to kill him? Wanna bet that's in one of the 30K emails that Hillary deleted? :lamo

Funny, some from the administration are still pushing talking point that this administration doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Well, that's got no credibility anymore, not that these people ever earned any anyway.
 
That's alright Kobie.....now that all know you didn't have anything to contribute. You can take off and think about that. Myself, I would hope you are thinking that others don't see how you play it, saying you don't care. :lol:

I don't have anything to contribute? All you've done for the last hour is go after me.

Get. Lost.
 
I don't have anything to contribute? All you've done for the last hour is go after me.

Get. Lost.

Seems those posts to others shows otherwise. But then we already know your version of reality.....is a bit different from most others.

Try sticking to the truth for a change rather than shows us all those limitations.
 
Seems those posts to others shows otherwise. But then we already know your version of reality.....is a bit different from most others.

Try sticking to the truth for a change rather than shows us all those limitations.

What?

If you have a problem with something I've posted here, quote it and I'll address that. If not, leave me alone.

This is a discussion thread, not your personal litterbox.
 
What?

If you have a problem with something I've posted here, quote it and I'll address that. If not, leave me alone.

This is a discussion thread, not your personal litterbox.

I did.....I looked at all of your posts and then asked if you could clarify if you actually knew something about the Topic. Asked you to provide a link to show you know.....something, anything. About the OP.

As usual, you proved to all you couldn't. So that's on you!

Did you still want to deflect.....where is that link to show you know what you are talking about. If you don't have one.....then you might want to leave this subject for those that knows whats going on with it. Just sayin.
 
I did.....I looked at all of your posts and then asked if you could clarify if you actually knew something about the Topic. Asked you to provide a link to show you know.....something, anything. About the OP.

As usual, you proved to all you couldn't. So that's on you!

Did you still want to deflect.....where is that link to show you know what you are talking about. If you don't have one.....then you might want to leave this subject for those that knows whats going on with it. Just sayin.

No, you didn't. So, again, quote or good bye.
 
I would disagree that they are meaningless terms, and would I also disagree that these leaders don't have an impact on the combat effectiveness of the people that they are leading. Fact of the matter is that they do. They elevate it.



The "Mission Accomplished" that you mock is debunked, as it was applicable to that ship and it's mission only, just happened to be in back of shot, so taken out of context for the purpose of baseless mocking, belittling and marginalizing others with whom they disagree. Typical.



Going to kill him? Wanna bet that's in one of the 30K emails that Hillary deleted? :lamo

Funny, some from the administration are still pushing talking point that this administration doesn't negotiate with terrorists. Well, that's got no credibility anymore, not that these people ever earned any anyway.



What I don't get is if Wikipedia had everything from 2009 and 2010 and 2011. Then how can they say nothing was known until Bergdahls Unit started reporting in 2014.
 
No, you didn't. So, again, quote or good bye.

Post 160 is where I asked you for the link. Now we know its 4 or 5 pages back. Still this is no reason for you play like.....you are hoping people wont go back to see your truth Shown for what it is.
 
Post 160 is where I asked you for the link. Now we know its 4 or 5 pages back. Still this is no reason for you play like.....you are hoping people wont go back to see your truth Shown for what it is.

You asked me for a link, yes, for no discernible reason. I have nothing to prove to you.

Again, if you have an issue with something related to the thread topic that I've posted, feel free to quote it specifically. I'm not counting on it.
 
You asked me for a link, yes, for no discernible reason. I have nothing to prove to you.

That's alright you already proved that with all you have said here. Oh, and you were asked to prove you knew what the Topic was about. But as usual couldn't even handle that.

So again that falls on you. But then I doubt you can change that perception around here.
 
We don't know his story.

There is no story. It's very clear you are unfamiliar with my military.

You cannot abandon your post. There is no story. None.
 
That's alright you already proved that with all you have said here. Oh, and you were asked to prove you knew what the Topic was about. But as usual couldn't even handle that.

So again that falls on you. But then I doubt you can change that perception around here.

Why do you think I owe you some "proof" that I'm familiar with any topic? I owe you nothing, and you are in no position to be making demands.
 
Why do you think I owe you some "proof" that I'm familiar with any topic? I owe you nothing, and you are in no position to be making demands.

Well really its not just for me.....but at least it can help you with the part about the Poster not being the subject of the topic. Once you and most other leftists catch up to that reality. You will be fine. Maybe!
 
Well really its not just for me.....but at least it can help you with the part about the Poster not being the subject of the topic. Once you and most other leftists catch up to that reality. You will be fine. Maybe!

LOL. Says the guy who's been trolling me for two hours.

In any event, I gotta head out. Hopefully you find someone else's time to waste.
 
LOL. Says the guy who's been trolling me for two hours.

In any event, I gotta head out. Hopefully you find someone else's time to waste.



Okay Kobie have a good one.....and thanks for the performance. At least it shows you can go thru the motions.
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You and others can attach titles to those prisoners like "senior" and "leaders," but they are meaningless. We're talking about organized groups of terrorists in which everyone is expendable and easily replaceable including the "senior" militants and "leaders" among them. Pretty much all of the "top militants" who have been killed or captured over the last 13 years were replaced by someone else in the days or weeks that followed.

Kind of like "Mission Accomplished"--we're still dealing with that hollow victory.
We may never know the end cost/benefit analysis in my lifetime.

And then we have the three dumbest words of all time--"Bring It On".
I'm sure you would agree that "THEY" have brought it on.

"Smooth move there eh ex lax" as we both might say to Bungling Bush .

What I don't get is if Wikipedia had everything from 2009 and 2010 and 2011. Then how can they say nothing was known until Bergdahls Unit started reporting in 2014.

Wikipedia is a news source that the administration isn't using to keep tabs on itself? :lamo
Only the Biased, pro-Democrat and pro-Obama, Lame Stream Media is used for this?
Certainly seems like it's the only way that Obama ever finds out about anything in his administration is doing.
 
What happened Hatuey? Did you still want to say BO and his team didn't know before 2014?

If you actually got that from my post, you're really proving you don't read posts. :)

A Pentagon investigation in 2010 concluded that Bergdahl walked away from his unit

I don't think you know what that means but here is the full story which you purposely omitted because it doesn't fit your narrative:

A Timeline of Bergdahl's Army Service, Potential Charges - ABC News

June 30, 2009: Bergdahl disappears during the night from his one-man pup tent next to the truck that served as his post as his unit guarded a stretch of riverbed. His body armor and weapon were left behind. Within a day, a radio operator intercepted Afghans chatting about their new bargaining chip. Days earlier, Bergdahl told his parents in an email that an Army vehicle had run over a girl, but "we don't even care when we hear each other talk about running their children down in the dirt streets with our armored trucks." A Pentagon investigation concluded in 2010 that the evidence was "incontrovertible" that Bergdahl walked away from his unit, but did not accuse him of desertion, a former Pentagon official who read the report told The Associated Press.

That's from 2010 MMC, it was in a widely available news source and this is how Republicans responded for 3 years:

Allen West - December 2013 said:
“Then there is Army SGT Bowe Bergdahl still held by the Islamic terrorist Haqqani network, probably in Pakistan, in the same place where Osama Bin Laden was hiding. This past POW/MIA national day of recognition, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel reiterated a pledge to secure the young Army NCO being held captive, but have there been any actions? Any time, attention, or even mention from the Commander-in-Chief? Nah, no camera highlights in it for him.” December, 2013

John McCain - February 2014 said:
“I would support. Obviously I’d have to know the details, but I would support ways of bringing him home, and if exchange was one of them, I think that would be something I think we should seriously consider.

Kelly Ayotte - February 2014 said:
“As part of ongoing efforts to urge the Department of Defense to do all it can to find Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl and bring him home safely, Senator Ayotte worked successfully to include a provision in the bill that presses Pakistan to fully cooperate in the search for SGT Bergdahl.

James Inhofe - June 2013 said:
“The mission to bring our missing soldiers home is one that will never end. It’s important that we make every effort to bring this captured soldier home to his family.

Jim Hoft - October 2013 said:
Sgt. Bowe Robert Bergdahl was captured by the Taliban in 2009 in Afghanistan. Four months ago, his family in Idaho received a letter from their son through the Red Cross. He was still alive. But sadly it looks like Barack Obama is going to leave US POW Sgt. Bowe Robert Bergdahl behind.

Oliver North - November 2011 said:
“Today, I received from the National League of POW/MIA Families, a “Never Forget Bracelet” emblazoned with the name of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl. He was seized on June 30, 2009 in Afghanistan and is being held by the Haqqani Organization – a Taliban afilliated terrorist group – in northwest Pakistan. Sgt Bergdahl and his loved ones here at home deserve our prayers and encouragement until he is rescued or released. That’s what we do. We’re Americans.”

Rich Nugent - February 2014 said:
Last year, on the fourth anniversary of Sgt. Bergdahl’s capture, on the floor of the House of Representatives, I introduced a resolution in the House calling on the United States to do everything possible not to leave any members of the armed forces behind during the drawdown of Iraq and Afghanistan. Believe it or not, I had members of Congress come up to me and say, ‘I didn’t know we had a living POW in Afghanistan.’ That was shocking to me.

Lol, wait did you actually post who this report was aired by? Of course you didn't because it was an anonymous source so any question about the report's validity is in question. However, let's say for argument's sake you're right and this was a well known fact since 2010. Were all of these Republicans lying too for 4 years? Or only the Obama administration? ;) C'man MMC, be honest and tell us who was lying and who wasn't? :)
 
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