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Ted Cruz going on Obamacare

Greenbeard said:
Federal law allows him to still be on his wife's insurance for many, many more months. He has instead chosen what he deemed to be the better option for his family (potentially at a small personal political cost, given the persona he's cultivated). Like I said, I'm mildly impressed.
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His wife left her job and lost her insurance when she did so. Cruz wanted to purchase health insurance for his family, and like so many Americans, was forced to make decisions he probably would rather have not have due to an abusive, overbearing, piece of legislation that deems to tell us how to run our lives as though we were incapable of doing so.
 
Dovkan said:
That's a real shame, maybe the insurance companies should have followed the requirements and adjusted there plans to follow the requirements.
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They did. That's why people lost their old plans.
 
cpwill said:
His wife left her job and lost her insurance when she did so.
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I'm going to assume you're either rather young, have been in the same job your entire life, or have never had employer-sponsored insurance.
 
Where is the "REPLACE" that GOPs keep talking about, since yer anti-ACA?
We hear a lot of Bull**** about a plan, when will it be debated in a House committee?
Not to mention have a debate on the House floor with a vote.

Just as with the Tax Rewrite Bill by now retired GOP Dave Camp which never saw the light of day.

Just as with Immigration Reform which was tabled last year after Cantor lost in the primary over it.

Just as with the GOP Transportation Bill that went up in flames due to the two warring factions.

RIPOs claims they're not a GOP.
But until the GOP gets its **** together, we're all ****ed .
Henrin said:
Yes if we took away the mandate the entire bill and all your wish list goes up in flames. Funny how the law is built on servitude isn't it, mister socialist.
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Dovkan said:
Oh yes, the republican congressmen who obviously care about helping poor families who can't get health insurance. You can't just "toss it in the dumpster"
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Don't fool yourself. It can be tossed just as easily as it was shoved down our throats.
 
cpwill said:
His wife left her job and lost her insurance when she did so. Cruz wanted to purchase health insurance for his family, and like so many Americans, was forced to make decisions he probably would rather have not have due to an abusive, overbearing, piece of legislation that deems to tell us how to run our lives as though we were incapable of doing so.
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It's not abusive at all, you keep spewing rhetoric that has no bearing but paranoia.
 
Mycroft said:
Don't fool yourself. It can be tossed just as easily as it was shoved down our throats.
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The issue is, tossing it will destroy tens of millions of lives who cannot turn to affordable healthcare anywhere else.
 
cpwill said:
His wife left her job and lost her insurance when she did so.
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His wife made a choice--I thought your GOP was about accountability on their choices .
 
Greenbeard said:
I'm going to assume you're either rather young, have been in the same job your entire life, or have never had employer-sponsored insurance.
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:shrug: I'm in my thirties, and had no less than four employers in the last tax year alone, each with their own variant of health insurance (one offered none). I am currently on a high deductible plan with an attached HSA that I get through my employer.
 
NIMBY said:
Where is the "REPLACE" that GOPs keep talking about, since yer anti-ACA?
We hear a lot of Bull**** about a plan, when will it be debated in a House committee?
Not to mention have a debate on the House floor with a vote.

Just as with the Tax Rewrite Bill by now retired GOP Dave Camp which never saw the light of day.

Just as with Immigration Reform which was tabled last year after Cantor lost in the primary over it.

Just as with the GOP Transportation Bill that went up in flames due to the two warring factions.

RIPOs claims they're not a GOP.
But until the GOP gets its **** together, we're all ****ed .
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The modern GOP is a joke.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: I'm in my thirties, and had no less than four employers in the last tax year alone, each with their own variant of health insurance (one offered none). I am currently on a high deductible plan with an attached HSA that I get through my employer.
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Then why are you under the impression Cruz's family couldn't have retained the insurance they just ditched in favor of coverage sold through the exchange?

I guess option four for my assumptions about you is that you've consistently had terrible HR reps that never conveyed to you your rights when leaving their employment.
 
tres borrachos said:
They're pissy because he chose to use the insurance benefits that come with his job as a US Senator. I guess it's only okay when the other politicians do it.
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Worse than that. When Republicans abide by the law it's outrageous, when Democrats try to avoid being subject to the law it's A-OK, apparently.
 
Dovkan said:
The issue is, tossing it will destroy tens of millions of lives who cannot turn to affordable healthcare anywhere else.
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Wrong.

Tossing it will free people to make their own decision.

But I don't expect you to agree that people are able to take care of themselves if they are given the chance. You want the government to take care of them...make their decisions for them...with all the strings attached that the government can get away with.
 
jmotivator said:
Worse than that. When Republicans abide by the law it's outrageous, when Democrats try to avoid being subject to the law it's A-OK, apparently.
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Examples of democrats doing this?
 
SenorXm/Sirius said:
Nope.. Fed law says she/he can still get her health insurance through her employer via COBRA for up to 3 years after she lost her job.
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If you take over the full payments, sure. If you seek to get your health insurance through your employer (as most Americans do), and you are a congresscritter, however, the law requires you to use the exchange. :shrug:



The more people complain about how Cruz feels compelled to follow even laws he doesn't like, the more they draw a natural contrast between him and "We Don't Need No Stinking Emails" Hillary. I'm not a fan of the idea of Cruz for President, but ya'll know you are only helping him, right?
 
Mycroft said:
Wrong.

Tossing it will free people to make their own decision.

But I don't expect you to agree that people are able to take care of themselves if they are given the chance. You want the government to take care of them...make their decisions for them...with all the strings attached that the government can get away with.
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No one is forced to get on obamacare's plans! Why do people keep saying this, it's just preposterous. I want the government to provide healthcare to everyone, as it is a basic human right, but that's just my opinion based on my compassion for other human beings.
 
Henrin said:
I don't see why anyone has to stop fighting for what they believe in because you want them to.
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At some point one has to know when you are defeated. I'd say the moment Sen. Cruz signs up for ObamaCare is the moment he recognizes he lost that fight.

It's easy for politicians like Mitt Romney and now Sen. Cruz to claim "they're just falling the law," but when you also claim to be such a principled Conservative and you cave and hide behind adhering to the law, you lose credibility in my book.

Now, if he were to state publically that he accepts that ObamaCare is the law of the land where health care coverage policy is concerned and then he signs up for it, I'd give him props because at least people (myself included) could acknowledge that he tried to repeal the law, but attempts by himself and his Republican colleagues failed. But until he makes such a public pronouncement and instead hides behind "following the law," I just can't accept that he's doing this for any reason other than a stunt of some sort.

What is his end-game here?
 
Oh for the days of Lincoln, TR, and IKE.

And Nixon on domestic policy--now reviled by "modern GOPs" on items like the EPA.

Dovkan said:
The modern GOP is a joke.
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One thing this clown car isn't is the "Party of Reagan" .
 
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mbig said:
I'm NOT 'The Left', Not close.
(check my likes/given/received)
But YOU are 'The Right'.
and because you got your Butt Kicked to hell, you had to 'short quote' me and ALL relevant content, and go for Yet Another empty wisecrack. ('liked' by yet another extreme partisan)]
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You mad, bro?

So in this article you keep posting where is the Cruz quote that validates the article headline? Does Cruz say he was required to use the exchanges? My misreading of the Grassley amendment aside, where does CRUZ say that he thinks he is legally required to use the SHOP exchange?

Bad move, you just gave me the opportunity to Post the devastating truth again.
Enjoy it.
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A straw man blog post from Think Progress isn't as devastating as you seem to think.
 
NIMBY said:
Oh for the days of Lincoln, TR, and IKE.

And Nixon on domestic policy--now reviled by "modern GOPs" on items like the EPA.



Once thing this clown car isn't is the "Party of Reagan" .
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You mean "one" but yeah, X.D.
 
Now you've gone and done it.
You've said the government should provide healthcare to everyone.
If that's not bad enough, you've called it a basic human right .

Dovkan said:
No one is forced to get on obamacare's plans! Why do people keep saying this, it's just preposterous. I want the government to provide healthcare to everyone, as it is a basic human right, but that's just my opinion based on my compassion for other human beings.
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Henrin said:
No, we don't. The government is not there to innovate, explore space, or to feed the poor. Defense is actually a power of the government and it exists for that purpose.
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Have you ever heard of the Strategic Defense Initiative? If so, care to tell the class its purpose and intended deployment method?
 
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