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Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

Dont invoke Reagan's name in this mess your ideology has created.

Even on your best day, you can't paint Obama as Reagan.

Reagan takes the credit for turning the US from a creditor nation into a debtor nation. Cheney said that deficits didn't matter and then proceeded to try and prove it by not paying for the Iraq war. Obama ain't got nothing on that.
 
Iran buying US products such as Coca Cola undermines their whole "death to US" thingy...as in like you know...the topic of the thread??? Duh!!!

Same as in Russia. .... Duh....

;) ;) ;) ;)
 
You better tell that to all the Jews who've worked with him over the years. I'm sure they wouldn't mind your flawless insight into Obama's mind. :lol:

That doesn't prove anything except that some power-hungry people are willfully blind.
 
In September 1980, Saddam Hussein started a war against Iran that would have devastating consequences for both countries. The war -the longest conventional war in the 20th century- was characterized by Iraq’s indiscriminate ballistic-missile attacks and extensive use of chemical weapons.

The war resulted in at least half a million and probably twice as many troops killed on both sides, and in at least half a million men who became permanently disabled. The U.S. actively supported Saddam Hussein in his war efforts with billions of dollars in credits, advanced technology, weaponry, military intelligence, and Special Operations training.

Pentagon officials in Baghdad planned day-by-day bombing strikes for the Iraqi Air Force. According to the U.S. former ambassador Peter W. Galbraith, Iraq used this data to target Iranian positions with chemical weapons. Despite the brutality of these attacks, Iran didn’t respond in kind.

In 1984, Iran presented a draft resolution to the United Nations Security Council condemning Saddam Hussein’s use of chemical weapons, based on the Geneva Protocol of 1925. The U.S. instructed its delegate at the UN to lobby friendly representatives to support a motion to abstain on the vote on the use of chemical weapons by Iraq. Given these facts, can we be surprised that Iranians have a deep resentment against the U.S.?
 
Iran’s Supreme leader Ali Khamenei called for “Death to America” on Saturday,
a day after President Barack Obama appealed to Iran to seize a “historic opportunity” for a nuclear deal and a better future, and as US Secretary of State John Kerry claimed substantial progress toward an accord.

Khamenei told a crowd in Tehran that Iran would not capitulate to Western demands. When the crowd started shouting, “Death to America,” the ayatollah responded: “Of course yes, death to America, because America is the original source of this pressure.

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Read more: Khamenei calls 'Death to America' as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal | The Times of Israel Khamenei calls 'Death to America' as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal | The Times of Israel
Finally an Iranian moderate in the Leadership speaks out.
 
Did you know that Reagan secretly asked the Iranians not to release the US prisoners until after he was inaugerated so that he could take the credit instead of Jimmy Carter?

No, I didn't know that. And I doubt you know it, either, as suggested by your conspicuous lack of evidence for it. Makes a nice urban myth, though.

Then later he committed treason during the Iran Contra scandal.

If so, you are a little late to try to prove it. Not that it makes any difference, considering that no U.S. president has ever been prosecuted for treason.

Reagan and Iran were thick as thieves together.

Again, a wild assertion supported by no evidence. Do you by any chance write for one of those "urban" throwaway papers?

No doubt the right wing Saudi Wahhabi apologists will try to blame Obama for Reagans crimes.....even though he was still a teenager at the time.

Have you worn out blaming Bush for your messiah's blundering, so that now you have to reach all the way back to Ronald Reagan? Next you'll be claiming Eisenhower is to blame.

No lie is too big or too small for the right wing base to swallow with their daily dose of potty sauce.

I wouldn't know, since I am not a member of "the right wing base"--whatever that is. But President Pinocchio's acolytes should be careful about accusing anyone else of swallowing lies.
 
In September 1980, Saddam Hussein started a war against Iran that would have devastating consequences for both countries. The war -the longest conventional war in the 20th century- was characterized by Iraq’s indiscriminate ballistic-missile attacks and extensive use of chemical weapons.

The war resulted in at least half a million and probably twice as many troops killed on both sides, and in at least half a million men who became permanently disabled. The U.S. actively supported Saddam Hussein in his war efforts with billions of dollars in credits, advanced technology, weaponry, military intelligence, and Special Operations training.

Pentagon officials in Baghdad planned day-by-day bombing strikes for the Iraqi Air Force. According to the U.S. former ambassador Peter W. Galbraith, Iraq used this data to target Iranian positions with chemical weapons. Despite the brutality of these attacks, Iran didn’t respond in kind.

In 1984, Iran presented a draft resolution to the United Nations Security Council condemning Saddam Hussein’s use of chemical weapons, based on the Geneva Protocol of 1925. The U.S. instructed its delegate at the UN to lobby friendly representatives to support a motion to abstain on the vote on the use of chemical weapons by Iraq. Given these facts, can we be surprised that Iranians have a deep resentment against the U.S.?

Your litany is mostly accurate. The U.S. did those things because Saddam Hussein had botched Iraq's prosecution of the war so badly that for a time it was in danger of losing it. The U.S. wanted both sides to weaken each other, and to keep this process going it became necessary to help Iraq. What of it? The U.S. and Britain also helped Saddam's hero and fellow murderous bastard Josef Stalin during World War Two. I don't care what the Jew-hating, America-hating Islamic jihadists who make up the regime in Tehran resent. They can all go straight to hell.
 
Your litany is mostly accurate. The U.S. did those things because Saddam Hussein had botched Iraq's prosecution of the war so badly that for a time it was in danger of losing it. The U.S. wanted both sides to weaken each other, and to keep this process going it became necessary to help Iraq. What of it? The U.S. and Britain also helped Saddam's hero and fellow murderous bastard Josef Stalin during World War Two. I don't care what the Jew-hating, America-hating Islamic jihadists who make up the regime in Tehran resent. They can all go straight to hell.

Look, I'm well aware of US foreign policy interests in weakening nations. A very fine democratic ambition. And no surprise that you would approve. Bottom line here is that we have every reason and possibility to have a positive relationship with Iran. But there's too many that have too much to gain by maintaining tensions and violence in the ME.
 
Iran buying US products such as Coca Cola undermines their whole "death to US" thingy...as in like you know...the topic of the thread??? Duh!!!

What a ridiculous statement.

Pretty sure the 911 terrorists bought and used American made products too.
 
Iran buying US products such as Coca Cola undermines their whole "death to US" thingy...as in like you know...the topic of the thread??? Duh!!!

I see, so despite over 30 years of killing Americans all over the world, being the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism, its treatment of women, gays, and religious minorities, and being headed by a radical fundamentalist islamic cleric who is chanting with his nation DEATH TO AMERICA! as he stalls to get nukes, they are really ok-because they drink coke.

Duh indeed.
 
I see, so despite over 30 years of killing Americans all over the world, being the worlds largest state sponsor of terrorism, its treatment of women, gays, and religious minorities, and being headed by a radical fundamentalist islamic cleric who is chanting with his nation DEATH TO AMERICA! as he stalls to get nukes, they are really ok-because they drink coke.

Duh indeed.

Where's your proof that Iran is the worlds largest sponsor of terrorism?? Here's what your idol, Ronny's boy had to say.

The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom – noted:

Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.

Odom also said:

By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.
 
Well, do we have to wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city?



I believe that we heard that same line before G.W. Bush put Iran's Shia friends in charge in Iraq. :roll:
 
Look, I'm well aware of US foreign policy interests in weakening nations. A very fine democratic ambition. And no surprise that you would approve. Bottom line here is that we have every reason and possibility to have a positive relationship with Iran. But there's too many that have too much to gain by maintaining tensions and violence in the ME.

It is in the interests of the United States for any two regimes that are hostile to us to harm each other as much as possible. I approve of a foreign policy that advances our interests.

I hope the U.S. will some day have a positive relationship with Iran, just as it has had before. Before that can happen, though, the Khomeinist regime that has been oppressing that country for thirty-five years must be brought down. But when freedom-loving, pro-Western Iranians challenged that regime in 2009, at very great risk to themselves, Mr. Obama, Islamist-coddling weak sister that he is, did not even so much as give them verbal support.
 
Where's your proof that Iran is the worlds largest sponsor of terrorism?? Here's what your idol, Ronny's boy had to say.

The director of the National Security Agency under Ronald Reagan – Lt. General William Odom – noted:

Because the United States itself has a long record of supporting terrorists and using terrorist tactics, the slogans of today’s war on terrorism merely makes the United States look hypocritical to the rest of the world.

Odom also said:

By any measure the US has long used terrorism. In ‘78-79 the Senate was trying to pass a law against international terrorism – in every version they produced, the lawyers said the US would be in violation.

Iran and state-sponsored terrorism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
State Department: Iran Supports Al Qaeda, Taliban | The Weekly Standard
http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/195768.pdf
'Iran's support for terrorism highest in decade' - International - Jerusalem Post
State Sponsors: Iran - Council on Foreign Relations
State Sponsors of Terrorism
 
It is in the interests of the United States for any two regimes that are hostile to us to harm each other as much as possible. I approve of a foreign policy that advances our interests.

I hope the U.S. will some day have a positive relationship with Iran, just as it has had before. Before that can happen, though, the Khomeinist regime that has been oppressing that country for thirty-five years must be brought down. But when freedom-loving, pro-Western Iranians challenged that regime in 2009, at very great risk to themselves, Mr. Obama, Islamist-coddling weak sister that he is, did not even so much as give them verbal support.

Apparently your unaware of US Iraqi relations during the Reagan era. Us policies of hegemony, imperialism and exploitation isn't going to make friends. There's reasons why America has so many enemies.

Much like Al Qaeda, the Islamic State (ISIS) is made-in-the-USA, an instrument of terror designed to divide and conquer the oil-rich Middle East and to counter Iran’s growing influence in the region.

The fact that the United States has a long and torrid history of backing terrorist groups will surprise only those who watch the news and ignore history.

The CIA first aligned itself with extremist Islam during the Cold War era. Back then, America saw the world in rather simple terms: on one side, the Soviet Union and Third World nationalism, which America regarded as a Soviet tool; on the other side, Western nations and militant political Islam, which America considered an ally in the struggle against the Soviet Union.

There's a couple.

How the US Helped Create Al Qaeda and ISIS » CounterPunch: Tells the Facts, Names the Names
 
It is in the interests of the United States for any two regimes that are hostile to us to harm each other as much as possible. I approve of a foreign policy that advances our interests.

I hope the U.S. will some day have a positive relationship with Iran, just as it has had before. Before that can happen, though, the Khomeinist regime that has been oppressing that country for thirty-five years must be brought down. But when freedom-loving, pro-Western Iranians challenged that regime in 2009, at very great risk to themselves, Mr. Obama, Islamist-coddling weak sister that he is, did not even so much as give them verbal support.

There was an Iranian protester on live television being interviewed and she skewed from the topic and basically started begging us to help, saying they were killing people left and right, secret police everywhere, etc.

And the idiotic tv host just kind of froze up. I can't even find that exchange on youtube or anywhere else, but it brought a tear to my eye.

And it was crickets from Obama, he's on the wrong side of everything-even if he was just inept-occasionally he'd do the right thing, but Im not seeing that.
 
Lol. You quote the worlds biggest supporter of and projector of terrorism to inform your opinion on Iran's use of terrorism, thanks for the chuckle.

Monte, you are being intellectually lazy again, I have given you a wealth of information, but we know you are simply going to believe whatever it is thats easiest for you.
 
It is proof when the claims are made by US state and military officials so you have no point here.

Right, the same people who said that Iraq has WMDs and we must invade... youre not fooling anyone with that ...well maybe the warhawks and neocons but thats to be expected...

First link is a delusional story with no proof to back it up - it claims it relies solely on some CIA memos and it's an Haaretz article that reports on it so yeah right. Second and third aren't even real sources. Try again.
Sources are good, you just dont want to believe it since youre a mortal enemy of Iran and an Isreali war crimes apologist so thats to be expected too.
 
Right, the same people who said that Iraq has WMDs and we must invade... youre not fooling anyone with that ...well maybe the warhawks and neocons but thats to be expected...

If anything it is you who is not fooling anyone here as you too I'm certain are fully aware of the part Iran played and continues to play in the killing of US soldiers, we only differ in the fact that while I recognize that truth you are willing to go to embarrassing lengths to cover up for the Shiite terrorists you sympathize with, engaging in ridiculous lies.

Sources are good, you just dont want to believe it since youre a mortal enemy of Iran and an Isreali war crimes apologist so thats to be expected too.

Antiwar.com? The Conservative? Give me a break, and Haaretz is a far-left magazine. Quite weird you couldn't find a single mainstream article eh. This has nothing to do with what I'm willing to believe or not, it has to do with the basic reality that these are made up conspiracy theories with nothing to back them up. And you are in no place to be preaching morality considering your support for terrorism and the murder of innocents, so what you may call "war crimes" isn't really war crimes just like your concept of good is evil and of evil is good.
 
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