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Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

Oh no! They said "Death to America" that must mean they are going to kill us all! :scared::scared:

Not even with the bomb can they get us all without nuclear winter. So why worry?
 
Thats a magical story bro.

He is right. Most Persians I have known liked Americans and America. Problem is that those that hold dictatorial power and their supporters do not. And would the the ones to have the bomb, not that that is the greatest problem with a Persian nuke.
 
How can people defend this? Appealing to hardliners or not... It would only be a display of extreme weakness to negotiate with a nation where the supreme leader literally is saying death to America.

So I guess if some Republican was just pandering to his base by using racial slurs in a rural primarily white setting notorious for racial violence that's ok? Or what about someone pandering to a Nazi group by calling for Jewish genocide? They're just appealing to hardliners right? :roll:

Iran is a theocratic regime with horrible human rights violations, state sponsored terror and nothing really demonstrating that they should be trusted. If any negotiations are to take place the first step the US should take is to have Iranian leaders denounce past comments regarding death to America, death to Israel/Jews and other outrageous things. This is beyond absurd and such a foreign policy blunder if this isn't addressed.

Was it extreme weakness when Reagan negotiated with the Soviets, the Iranians, the Palestinians, and many, many others? Was it weakness when Nixon negotiated with China and North Vietnam? We negotiate with pretty much every one historically, including some very bad people who wanted to do very bad things to us.
 
We're talking about nuclear negotiations with a nation that funds terror, has made threats against us and Israel and during negotiations is still saying such things... How is it not a display of naivety and weakness for the US to not address this? How can you expect to negotiate and trust a nation that unapologetically calls for the destruction of your nation and its allies and continues to do so during a negotiation process? It's simply foolish, especially when the nation is known to be a crazy theocracy that funds terror and has a history of human rights violations.

Who plans on trusting them? Certainly not Obama. Verification, people in place who can watch things. Trust is not part of the equation.
 
Who plans on trusting them? Certainly not Obama. Verification, people in place who can watch things. Trust is not part of the equation.

You are former Military, right?

Why are the French more strict than Obama?

Why is Obama comparing American Conservatives with Iran?
 
They would eventually get the weapon anyways if we just perpetually kept up sanctions. The emerging deal would push back the breakout time by months. A sensible agreement that isn't completely perfect is a much better option that a destructive war.
yes. there really isn't much to be done about nukes.
There is some things we can do about Iranian hegemony,but those are slipping away to.
I have no idea why we cannot arm the Kurds directly for ex. / anything to try to slowdown their Quds Force in Iraq.
 
No this is what Obama wants. He could care less about Iran does with the money it will receive. Hamas and Hezbollah will get more missiles and he will then cut funding for Israel's iron dome. He is not as stupid as many think.
There are newer versions of the Iron Dome being worked on,and yes Obama's hostility to Israel is palpable
 
You do realize his speach was in support of a nuclear deal? Just wondered if you where aware of that. I mean we could not deal, and Iran will have nuclear weapons in a couple years, or we would have to invade them, or we could do as Reagan did and deal with the people in power, even when we do not much like them. Reagan would deal with terrorists, murderers, and downright evil people if he thought it was in US interest. So why do you hate Reagan?

You forgot dictatorships. Reagan loved dealing with dictators. As long as it was in the "interest" of the US, Reagan dealt with them. Normally, it didn't work out so well for the people of those countries. However, that didn't matter as long as US interests were satisfied.

Mobutu:

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Marcos:

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Montt:

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And that's just the Ms ;)
 
You do realize his speach was in support of a nuclear deal? Just wondered if you where aware of that. I mean we could not deal, and Iran will have nuclear weapons in a couple years, or we would have to invade them, or we could do as Reagan did and deal with the people in power, even when we do not much like them. Reagan would deal with terrorists, murderers, and downright evil people if he thought it was in US interest. So why do you hate Reagan?

Dont invoke Reagan's name in this mess your ideology has created.

Even on your best day, you can't paint Obama as Reagan.
 
Ever since the late 70s, Iran has fired incendiary bluster at Israel and the United States and has never made a move. And they won't start now. This is self-appeasement. Nothing more.
 
Wow, Iran is attempting to negotiate in the public sphere.

It's quite telling that you take their bluster seriously.

Lolz, if this is negotiation where is Obama saying "DEATH TO IRAN"!!!

and "IRAN TALKS ARE FRAUDULENT!!!"?

Kobie, its these stands Im always talking to you about.
 
Agree that what Bibi did was self-serving. Put himself in front of what is best for his country. I think he did it because he really believes in the threat to Israel. But he had to realize that the deal is going to happen. Making Israel a partisan issue was stupid. That being said I would hope that Obama is not so thin skinned as to punish all Israelis for it's leader's mistake.
I wish you had the same feelings about the other nations ,cubans for instance
 
Psssst...Obama's got this baby! Stop being naive and take a chill pill n stuff. :doh

junior bush got more babies from the ME during his presidency and that is why you have more enemies (!) now
 
Well, do we have to wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city?

please, the soviets are and always have been a greater threat. Israel if anything has more incentive to prevent a nuclear iran, so let them continue to whack iranian scientists.
 
and yes Obama's hostility to Israel is palpable

Obama is anti-Semitic. And many of his fellow commies' hostility to Israel is just as obvious. So is their hostility to this country. Animosity toward Jews and animosity toward America and animosity toward Western Civilization in general give these people common cause with the Muslim jihadists. That's why they are forever carrying water for these savages, while running down this country and Israel. Andy McCarthy got it exactly right in "The Grand Jihad: How Islam and the Left Sabotage America."
 
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