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Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal



"....As the supreme leader spoke, a crowd chanted, “Death to America.” Khamenei said the rhetoric was justified because America is behind all threats to Iran.

Despite such criticism and the terms he is seeking, Khamenei’s speech represented a qualified support for continued negotiations, analysts said.

Ali Khorram, a former top Iranian diplomat, said the supreme leader was signaling that Iran was ready to negotiate and that “if the deal doesn’t happen, it is the fault of the USA.”

In this way, Khamenei was seeking to balance the demands of Iran’s political reformers, who are eager for a deal, and conservatives who are deeply wary, Khorram said....."​


He sounds a lot more rational than most US conservatives.
 
Ill let his actions speak for him. If destroying America was his only true concern he wouldn't have allowed negotiations to even begin. I'm certainly not saying he likes us, but he has greater concerns. What he says to his own people to keep himself with public opinion matters little to me.

not following you..his negotiations get the sanctions removed, which are really hurting Iran.
He still gets "breakout capability" for nukes..my personal opinion is Iran doesn't want them yet, but the breakout capability still gives him that option
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064447609 said:
So you trust a nation to comply with any agreement whose leader publicly stated "death to America" ?

This just shows how naive you actually are...


If we only negotiated with those that liked us, we would do very little of it. And to the Iranians credit, they have not breached the interim agreement signed back to in 2013. So again, ill let their actions speak for them.
 
It certainly sounds like it was in support of a nuclear deal with the US. :doh

It was, if you read fully what he stated. Why did you avoid pretty much every point I made by the way? Why are you so afraid of actual debate?
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064447609 said:
So you trust a nation to comply with any agreement whose leader publicly stated "death to America" ?

This just shows how naive you actually are...

Do I "trust"? No. Do I buy into public rhetoric as actual intentions? No.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064447609 said:
So you trust a nation to comply with any agreement whose leader publicly stated "death to America" ?

This just shows how naive you actually are...

Did you know that in one short period of time, we met with and dealt with both Stalin and Chiang Kai Shek?
 
not following you..his negotiations get the sanctions removed, which are really hurting Iran.
He still gets "breakout capability" for nukes..my personal opinion is Iran doesn't want them yet, but the breakout capability still gives him that option

They would eventually get the weapon anyways if we just perpetually kept up sanctions. The emerging deal would push back the breakout time by months. A sensible agreement that isn't completely perfect is a much better option that a destructive war.
 
Exactly. And though the title says that the crowd chanted death to America, the article never mentions it, nor does it say that Khomeini said such a thing.

Lolz.

Khamenei told a crowd in Tehran that Iran would not capitulate to Western demands. When the crowd started shouting, “Death to America,” the ayatollah responded: “Of course yes, death to America, because America is the original source of this pressure.


Whats it say that French socialists have more balls than Obama?
 
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Lolz.

Khamenei told a crowd in Tehran that Iran would not capitulate to Western demands. When the crowd started shouting, “Death to America,” the ayatollah responded: “Of course yes, death to America, because America is the original source of this pressure.


Whats it say that French socialists have more balls than Obama?

What are you quoting?
 
We can all go back and forth about this. The reality is that the deal is done, Iran will get their bomb. Obama will use his remaining time in office demonizing Israel. He will try and get democrats to not care if Israel survives and will succeed with many. He may go down as the Goebbels of the 21st century.
 
We can all go back and forth about this. The reality is that the deal is done, Iran will get their bomb. Obama will use his remaining time in office demonizing Israel. He will try and get democrats to not care if Israel survives and will succeed with many. He may go down as the Goebbels of the 21st century.

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Iran’s Supreme leader Ali Khamenei called for “Death to America” on Saturday, a day after President Barack Obama appealed to Iran to seize a “historic opportunity” for a nuclear deal and a better future, and as US Secretary of State John Kerry claimed substantial progress toward an accord.

Khamenei told a crowd in Tehran that Iran would not capitulate to Western demands. When the crowd started shouting, “Death to America,” the ayatollah responded: “Of course yes, death to America, because America is the original source of this pressure.

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Read more: Khamenei calls 'Death to America' as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal | The Times of Israel Khamenei calls 'Death to America' as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal | The Times of Israel

You can do deals with the enemy. But the downside is that the sanctions are connected to the nuke issue. If the deal happens Iran will get the money to support its terrorist activities. I am afraid that there is no longer much to be done about that. Obama has been out maneuvered again. It's the same as with Putin, who made Obama look like a dummy over and over. In foreign affairs the man that can is just out of his depths.
 
You can do deals with the enemy. But the downside is that the sanctions are connected to the nuke issue. If the deal happens Iran will get the money to support its terrorist activities. I am afraid that there is no longer much to be done about that. Obama has been out maneuvered again. It's the same as with Putin, who made Obama look like a dummy over and over. In foreign affairs the man that can is just out of his depths.

Your negativity is so....depressing. Russia's economy is reeling to do their actions and we are on the verge of a deal to prevent a Nuclear Iran. I mean come on, give Obama at least a little credit.
 
You can do deals with the enemy. But the downside is that the sanctions are connected to the nuke issue. If the deal happens Iran will get the money to support its terrorist activities. I am afraid that there is no longer much to be done about that. Obama has been out maneuvered again. It's the same as with Putin, who made Obama look like a dummy over and over. In foreign affairs the man that can is just out of his depths.

No this is what Obama wants. He could care less about Iran does with the money it will receive. Hamas and Hezbollah will get more missiles and he will then cut funding for Israel's iron dome. He is not as stupid as many think.
 
Unlike you, I do not think what happened 70 years ago is a laughing matter. Nor am I interested in a replay.
Nor do i. I find your terrible ****ing comparisons laughable though.
 
Iran’s Supreme leader Ali Khamenei called for “Death to America” on Saturday, a day after President Barack Obama appealed to Iran to seize a “historic opportunity” for a nuclear deal and a better future, and as US Secretary of State John Kerry claimed substantial progress toward an accord.

Khamenei told a crowd in Tehran that Iran would not capitulate to Western demands. When the crowd started shouting, “Death to America,” the ayatollah responded: “Of course yes, death to America, because America is the original source of this pressure.


Mideast-Iran-Nuclear_Horo-e1392695047501-635x357.jpg


Read more: Khamenei calls 'Death to America' as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal | The Times of Israel Khamenei calls 'Death to America' as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal | The Times of Israel

No question that the wackadoos on the right in Tehran are working to sabotage a deal just like the wackadoos on the right in Washington. It might be nice if the wackadoos could actually come up with a solution to the problem rather than being a part of the problem.
 
No question that the wackadoos on the right in Tehran are working to sabotage a deal just like the wackadoos on the right in Washington. It might be nice if the wackadoos could actually come up with a solution to the problem rather than being a part of the problem.

Right you are sir
 
Nor do i. I find your terrible ****ing comparisons laughable though.


I wonder if we go back to see how many threads you started about Hamas firing missiles into Israeli cities how many we would find. No one knew if the iron dome would work as well as it did. Also one could not be sure Israel would not run out of the interceptors. How many would have been killed if a third of those missiles got through. Would you REALLY care?
 
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