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Khamenei calls ‘Death to America’ as Kerry hails progress on nuke deal

Yes, the Persian is "Marg bar Amerika!" ( مرگ بر ) which is inaccurately translated as 'death' (the literal meaning) whereas it's truer translation is more along the lines of 'down with'.

They shout it in regards to anyone or anything of which they're not a fan (including spinach), but by all means, don't let that stop your vapors US Conservative.

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So they are chanting "down with America" as the head terrorist speaks about a nuclear deal with America...?

I guess that's fine....just peachy.


So when that same phrase was used in striking a death sentence against Canada's Ambassador ken Stephens, they were, like, just kidding and all the RCMP security is unnecessary?


I get it, another branch of Islam that is only misunderstood and have nothing but good intentions and are all about world peace and better cell phone reception.
 
Don't you think that's indicative, then, of just how much they hate us and our values? To them, from what you've posted, "America" is equated with all that's bad. And here, leftists like you want us to compromise our and our allies' security by appeasing people who equate just the name of our country with evil?
No, not at all. Obviously, there's going to be a number of Iranian US Conservatives' who hate the US as much as US Conservative hates Iran ... they're a small minority, just as (thankfully) US Conservative is. Therefore when, for example, Sen. Lindsey Graham is running his mouth about how Iran is more evil than ISIS (a group that slaughters people for fun), their hateful rhetoric is very limited.

But regardless, the phrase has been around for so long (almost 40 years) that it's become a parody in of itself. "Freedom Fries" for example. Originally intended to be anti-French; by this point, it's a punchline in a comedic routine. That's why Khamenei was so dismissive of it when the crowd shouted it.
 
Iran is different imho.
Tunisia headed for a civilian Govt.- Egypt is an economic mess held together by Saudi funds.
Libya is in a civil war over wealth mainly, not completely about religion.
Iraq - screwed and will split over time.

Lots of other places as well, take ISIS, Yemen, Syria is barely holding on, and only because IRAN is fighting with them.
 
Iran is different imho.
Tunisia headed for a civilian Govt.- Egypt is an economic mess held together by Saudi funds.
Libya is in a civil war over wealth mainly, not completely about religion.
Iraq - screwed and will split over time.



It's still a fundamentalist government right?

A government that has vowed to wipe the Israeli nation off the map right?

So, just how are they 'different'? are they more moderate? have they toned down any? Is is all just rhetoric or was there a valid reason Canada severed diplomatic relations with Tehran in 2010, the first time ever outside of war....
 
Hate?

Please demonstrate where there is "hate" in that post at all, and "hate" directed at the United States?
The ****ing over-the-top rhetoric in the defense of a president whose loyalty should be questioned is preposterous. FFS, Boehner is a "traitor" for visiting Israel, members of congress are "enemies" according to your president......and you accuse a loyal American who is exercising his constitutional right to impeach policies and actions of government?

From a bunch of bullies who have destroyed with rhetoric every opponent from within and without, including an ally like Netanyahu and you accuse others of hate....?

That's disgusting

Or better yet, why don't you just read the thread so I don't have to waste my time responding to your ignorant, mind numbing, irrelevant posts?
 
I do not dismiss it - they have to act in their best interest. The problem is our current President doesn't agree.

I agree with you that Obama doesn't agree with Netanyahu. But do you think that Netanyahu's opposed to doing what he thinks is best, without much concern for what Obama thinks? IOW, it's quite likely that Israel will bomb Iran, so either way, there's no worries for those that are scared that Iran might someday develop a nuclear weapon, and might someday use it on their nemesis.
 
So they are chanting "down with America" as the head terrorist speaks about a nuclear deal with America...?

I guess that's fine....just peachy.


So when that same phrase was used in striking a death sentence against Canada's Ambassador ken Stephens, they were, like, just kidding and all the RCMP security is unnecessary?


I get it, another branch of Islam that is only misunderstood and have nothing but good intentions and are all about world peace and better cell phone reception.

Never fear! The left is always here to tell us what everyone else "really" means. :doh
 
It's still a fundamentalist government right?

A government that has vowed to wipe the Israeli nation off the map right?

So, just how are they 'different'? are they more moderate? have they toned down any? Is is all just rhetoric or was there a valid reason Canada severed diplomatic relations with Tehran in 2010, the first time ever outside of war....

Severing relations was a dumb move.
Pure politics.
 
No, not at all. Obviously, there's going to be a number of Iranian US Conservatives' who hate the US as much as US Conservative hates Iran ... they're a small minority, just as (thankfully) US Conservative is. Therefore when, for example, Sen. Lindsey Graham is running his mouth about how Iran is more evil than ISIS (a group that slaughters people for fun), their hateful rhetoric is very limited.

But regardless, the phrase has been around for so long (almost 40 years) that it's become a parody in of itself. "Freedom Fries" for example. Originally intended to be anti-French; by this point, it's a punchline in a comedic routine. That's why Khamenei was so dismissive of it when the crowd shouted it.

I dont hate Iran, I see what it is doing and dont wish for it to continue.

Crack open a history book and do some reading for once.
 
Moot, you assume to be out of ideas and have resorted to name calling.

Its a Moot point.

Ooopsie, your hypocrisy is showing. But then what's a little hypocrisy, when you have no shame?
 
In what language does "Death to You!" not mean just that?
... Persian.

Literal translations from one language to another don't work. For example, in German dreikäsehoch is slang that literally translates into three cheeses high. That doesn't make a lick of sense in English.

It's only when you look at its non-literal translation, like you would "Marg bar Amrika," that you get what it means.
 
... Persian.

Literal translations from one language to another don't work. For example, in German dreikäsehoch is slang that literally translates into three cheeses high. That doesn't make a lick of sense in English.

It's only when you look at its non-literal translation, like you would "Marg bar Amrika," that you get what it means.

You must mean Farci. And you are wrong.

Look, this is liberal appeasement gibberish. The supreme leader knows what he's saying. So do you.
There isn't a communication error, except for your attempt to introduce one.
It might help to remember that not everyone are the gruberites out there, they tend to be leftists.
 
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So you are for troops on the ground, destroying Arak, Fordow would also be on the list? Only way of knowing it would be destroyed is to have a look see.
Destroying all air and naval assets, as well as land assets as a look see is needed at Fordow.
Then Hezbollah attacks Israel.
Hamas starts another war.
And the boys will be home for Christmas.

Who, besides you yourself, has said anything about invading Iran? Your suggestion about the heavy water-and-future-plutonium facility at Arak is as laughable as your melodramatic remark about the boys being home for Christmas. It is very clear from the aerial photos which parts of that facility are essential to making it work, and it would be obvious if bombing had destroyed them. Not many bombs would be needed to do that, either. Of course Fordow would be a target for bombing. And there too, your suggestion that land forces would need to be inserted to verify its destruction is laughable. Tests of the 30,000 lb. bomb make clear it can reliably destroy targets which are that deeply buried. Two that hit their aim points would leave no doubt.

The main threat Hizballah poses comes from several tens of thousands of unguided artillery rockets Iran has supplied it. They are no threat at all to Israel's military, but only a way to murder Israeli civilians from long range. As for HAMAS, if it wants Gaza to be pummeled once again by bombs and tanks and artillery, possibly getting thousands of people there killed, let it start a fight. Any time Israel chose to treat that as a real war, there would be no more HAMAS, and no Gazans either.
 
and the left says the right is all hate..

relishing in another's death over opinion is ****ing evil

Reagan has been dead a long time now. Plenty of time to review his presidency and see the real Reagan. He did more damage to the American worker than anyone during my lifetime. Now, back to the topic.

Seems like the thing the right here doesn't like is that we might avert another war, something the right relishes in.
 
So how should he have supported them? What words could he have said that would have made a difference?

How did he help "free the oppressed" during the Arab Spring?
 
I don't think you understand the kind of pressure the Iranian Leaders are under from their hardliners. This is just rhetoric to appease them. If "Death to America" were really his only goal he wouldn't have allowed negotiations to happen in the first place.

Always an excuse for why evil isn't really evil and talk can solve all problems.
 
Never fear! The left is always here to tell us what everyone else "really" means. :doh


And yet, here you are, speaking for the left....again. You're just full of irony, aren't cha? :roll:
 
You must mean Farci. And you are wrong.

Look, this is liberal appeasement gibberish. The supreme leader knows what he's saying. So do you.
There isn't a communication error, except for your attempt to introduce one.
It might help to remember that not everyone are the gruberites out there, they tend to be leftists.
Farsi and Persian are the same language. True, Farsi is what the Iranians themselves call their language, but its synonymous with Persian. Like in German, it's Persisch.

Suit yourself. I've made the argument that the phrase is not as "cut and dry" as you'd like it to be, nor as serious as anyone here with a visceral reaction to it believes it to be.
 
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