Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity[W:274]

Renae · Mar 23, 2015

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solletica said:
O knows that Iran will get nukes. It's just a line. Iranian nukes are no big deal--they would never be used.

The callous belief that madmen with WMD would never use them is scary. You assume the Iranian leadership rational.

solletica · Mar 23, 2015

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MrVicchio said:
The callous belief that madmen with WMD would never use them is scary. You assume the Iranian leadership rational.

The Iranian regime is very rational, as evidenced by its ability to successfully manipulate the dumbya administration into removing Saddam from power so it could another country under its belt for free.

solletica · Mar 23, 2015

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Chainsaw said:
the only opportunity here is Obama desperately trying to get a foreign policy victory, so he won't go down in history as a bigger hack than Jimmy Carter.

Iran getting nukes will definitely be a foreign policy victory, as it means Israel will be less likely to just invade/bully anyone at will and will be forced to negotiate for peace.

Renae · Mar 23, 2015

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solletica said:
The Iranian regime is very rational, as evidenced by its ability to successfully manipulate the dumbya administration into removing Saddam from power so it could another country under its belt for free.

I have a feeling you and I speak from different views of reality. Have fun with that dubya hate, may it follow you everywhere, be sure yto make that the central point to all your explanations so people see the real you and have no doubts.

face your · Mar 23, 2015

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brothern said:
This I year turned down an invite from several of my friends, who are going to visit Iran in April. The three that are going are an American gay couple and an Iranian friend of mine.

Yes and we totally believe you since Iran is the number one tourist destination in the world for gay Americans. :roll:

Do you really expect people to believe this tripe?

I don't have the PTO, otherwise I'd gladly have gone, but I'm hitting up Australia / NZ and Eastern Europe this year. However I seriously entertained the thought and did the initial planning of the trip.

Unless you are Islamophobic, it is a perfectly wonderful country,

Asserting that a country that executes gays for being gay, does not have freedom of religion or freedom of speech, which calls for the eradication of other nation states, and which officially denies the holocaust and hosts holocaust denial conferences and invites overt neo-Nazi's and members of the KKK is "wonderful" is either laughable or disgusting, I can't decide which.

which Americans are allowed to visit.

There national motto is literally "death to America" so spare me this fascist propaganda.

I wouldn't throw myself into the backwater Iran,

No we are talking about Tehran, there is no place in Iran that is wonderful, these are the state policies of their government.

as I wouldn't throw myself into the backwater that the Colombian guerrilla gangs own, but I do very much know what I'm talking about outside of your F.U.D.

No you're spouting ridiculous easily debunked propaganda that nobody takes seriously, you don't have a damn clue what you're talking about.

The Navy shot down and murdered 290 Iranian citizens on an Iran Air flight. Quite similar to what the Ukrainian separatists did.

A) It was an accident.

B) There national motto was "death to America" prior to the incident.

C) We did apologize so spare us: "...the United States recognized the aerial incident of 3 July 1988 as a terrible human tragedy and expressed deep regret over the loss of lives caused by the incident...

D) This occurred long after Iran sponsored the Hezbollah slaughter of US marines in the Lebanese Barracks bombing attacks they not only did not apologize for the willful slaughter of 299 American citizens they erected a monument to the bombers.

face your · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
No presidents like being restrained by the constitution, at least one considered it a god damn piece of paper.

Yes Obama believes that, your fake quote from GWB not withstanding.

http://www.factcheck.org/2007/12/bush-the-constitution-a-goddamned-piece-of-paper/

Anthony60 · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
Your best interests, and my best interests aren't the same. I'll take an agreement with Iran that they won't build nuclear weapons which will be monitored. So, in this case, Obama's advancing my interests. Sorry that you're disappointed on this one.

Yes, you, Obama, and Neville Chamberlain. This is how people get killed. It's not my or your interests, it's the country's best interests. And this isn't in our best interests.

face your · Mar 23, 2015

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solletica said:
Iran getting nukes will definitely be a foreign policy victory, as it means Israel will be less likely to just invade/bully anyone at will and will be forced to negotiate for peace.

And the truth is unveiled, a nuclear armed Iran = peace, Israel's existence = conflict, in-sane.

Montecresto · Mar 23, 2015

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face said:
Yes Obama believes that, your fake quote from GWB not withstanding.

Bush: The Constitution a ‘Goddamned Piece of Paper’?

I didn't have him in mind, I was thinking more along the lines of tricky dick. All presidents see the constitution as an impediment from time to time. But then we have it because men aren't angels.

Travis007 · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
The US has a long history of negotiating with terrorists, using terrorists to advance "US interest" when perceived as beneficial, and killing them if not. Iran is a country. It's negotiating with the UNSC, who intends on insuring that any Iranian nuclear power program remains peaceful.

Obama isn't blaming anything on anybody, what the hell do you mean. It's the right that's blaming Obama over an agreement they haven't seen. That's a colossal stupidity.

Your best interests, and my best interests aren't the same. I'll take an agreement with Iran that they won't build nuclear weapons which will be monitored. So, in this case, Obama's advancing my interests. Sorry that you're disappointed on this one.

You really dont know that much about the Iranians ... your posts are scary on how naive you are with why they are this far along.. they are only building the reactos for ONE REASON and your simply refuse to see that..they want the BOMB.. they want to hold the world hostage and nuke the USA, Europe and Israel..PERIOD...and you sure dont know how their proxies work..

once they have what they want they will not allow inspections, they wont allow that anyway

joko104 · Mar 23, 2015

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Obama is worse than W Bush in his view that the world must be as he wishes it to be - and then acting upon that fantasy reality. When it fails, he blames everyone else for not acting how he wants the to act.

The difference is that Obama also believes he can talk people into anything, when essentially everyone but partisan Democrats in the USA and everyone else in the world doesn't give a damn what he says and mostly have come to see him as weak and a fool.

Montecresto · Mar 23, 2015

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Anthony60 said:
Yes, you, Obama, and Neville Chamberlain. This is how people get killed. It's not my or your interests, it's the country's best interests. And this isn't in our best interests.

I see you can't recognize how stupid it is to argue that an agreement that hasn't been finalized is problematic, none of you wingers have shared with us what specifically it is in the agreement you object to because you don't know what it is. And you'd prefer to take an outsiders word, that freak Netanyahu, to your own presidents word, and then call others you disagree with, anti-American. How many times must one point out to you that any agreement accepted by the P5+1 will have two firm stipulations in it. One, Iran isn't allowed to manufacture nuclear weapons, and two, they will be monitored to ensure One!!! Stop it with your fear mongering. We've had enough of that, and enough war as a result of it.

joko104 · Mar 23, 2015

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solletica said:
Iran getting nukes will definitely be a foreign policy victory, as it means Israel will be less likely to just invade/bully anyone at will and will be forced to negotiate for peace.

Yes, you are not the only person who hates Jews.

People forget that tens of millions of people agreed with Hitler about the Jews - and that tens, if not hundreds, of millions of people in the world still agree.

It is not Israel that will be bullied, though you certainly want a nuclear attack against Israel if they do anything you don't like or any other so-called justification. It will be other Muslim countries, North Africa, Europe and the USA.

joko104 · Mar 23, 2015

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solletica said:
The Iranian regime is very rational, as evidenced by its ability to successfully manipulate the dumbya administration into removing Saddam from power so it could another country under its belt for free.

It is no surprise that Saddam Hussein was your preferred leader.

Montecresto · Mar 23, 2015

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Travis007 said:
You really dont know that much about the Iranians ... your posts are scary on how naive you are with why they are this far along.. they are only building the reactos for ONE REASON and your simply refuse to see that..they want the BOMB.. they want to hold the world hostage and nuke the USA, Europe and Israel..PERIOD...and you sure dont know how their proxies work..

once they have what they want they will not allow inspections, they wont allow that anyway

SCARY!! Look, I realize you're just a little fish in a big pond. But your fear mongering about Iran is way over the top. Ok, you keep insisting Iran wants a bomb, rehearse your drills, hide under your desk at work, buy survival gear, stock up on LTFR, and in the meantime, the UNSC will make sure Iran doesn't build a nuclear weapon and launch it your direction.

Travis007 · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
I see you can't recognize how stupid it is to argue that an agreement that hasn't been finalized is problematic, none of you wingers have shared with us what specifically it is in the agreement you object to because you don't know what it is. And you'd prefer to take an outsiders word, that freak Netanyahu, to your own presidents word, and then call others you disagree with, anti-American. How many times must one point out to you that any agreement accepted by the P5+1 will have two firm stipulations in it. One, Iran isn't allowed to manufacture nuclear weapons, and two, they will be monitored to ensure One!!! Stop it with your fear mongering. We've had enough of that, and enough war as a result of it.

Obama has allowed the building of the reactos for 7 years.. what part dont ya get? he has already allowed them to cross the nuclear threshold.. now he will reward them with lifting of sanctions..

what part is confusing? Obama is the ENEMY

Travis007 · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
SCARY!! Look, I realize you're just a little fish in a big pond. But your fear mongering about Iran is way over the top. Ok, you keep insisting Iran wants a bomb, rehearse your drills, hide under your desk at work, buy survival gear, stock up on LTFR, and in the meantime, the UNSC will make sure Iran doesn't build a nuclear weapon and launch it your direction.

Your posts shilling for you buddy Obama is comical at this point....

You dont know squat on these subjects exept that "it cant be Obamas fault"

Montecresto · Mar 23, 2015

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Travis007 said:
Obama has allowed the building of the reactos for 7 years.. what part dont ya get? he has already allowed them to cross the nuclear threshold.. now he will reward them with lifting of sanctions..

what part is confusing? Obama is the ENEMY

Then have him arrested, lol. Three years ago Israeli and US intelligence agencies said that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon, doesn't have a weapon program, and hasn't even decided to build a nuclear weapon. It will be ok.

Montecresto · Mar 23, 2015

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Travis007 said:
Your posts shilling for you buddy Obama is comical at this point....

You dont know squat on these subjects exept that "it cant be Obamas fault"

What can't be Obama's fault?

Travis007 · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
What can't be Obama's fault?

That Iran has the bomb already under the Obama tenure... but that can NOT be Obamas fault.. it has to be Bibis right?

matchlight · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
I see you can't recognize how stupid it is to argue that an agreement that hasn't been finalized is problematic, none of you wingers have shared with us what specifically it is in the agreement you object to because you don't know what it is. And you'd prefer to take an outsiders word, that freak Netanyahu, to your own presidents word, and then call others you disagree with, anti-American. How many times must one point out to you that any agreement accepted by the P5+1 will have two firm stipulations in it. One, Iran isn't allowed to manufacture nuclear weapons, and two, they will be monitored to ensure One!!! Stop it with your fear mongering. We've had enough of that, and enough war as a result of it.

Yes, tell us how effective the League of Nations' firm stipulations and sanctions were, in 1935, in preventing Italy from invading Abyssinia. And then tell us how effective that agreement to sell out Czechoslovakia that Chamberlain and Daladier made at Munich, three years later, was at preventing World War II. It is weakness that leads to wars, and the people who favor weakness usually try to hide their lack of resolve by accusing more sensible people of wanting war.

Travis007 · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
Then have him arrested, lol. Three years ago Israeli and US intelligence agencies said that Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon, doesn't have a weapon program, and hasn't even decided to build a nuclear weapon. It will be ok.

Gee.. and you beleived that? LOL.. they also said Saddam didnt have WMDS even though he used them and Israel documented them being moved around and then moved into Syria under the same baathist regime..

Nukes much more serious to OUR safety..

Montecresto · Mar 23, 2015

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Travis007 said:
That Iran has the bomb aready under the Obama tenure... but that can NOT be Obamas fault.. it has to be Bibis right?

Iran doesn't have a nuclear weapon, so there's no one at fault.

Montecresto · Mar 23, 2015

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Travis007 said:
Gee.. and you beleived that? LOL.. they also said Saddam didnt have WMDS even though he used them and Israel documented them being moved around and then moved into Syria under the same baathist regime..

Nukes much more serious to OUR safety..

Stop the fear mongering. Don't trust Israel. Bibi's been crying wolf on Iranian nukes for twenty five years. Jesus dude, take a Valium. This is a historic opportunity to make peace with Iran and ensure they don't produce nuclear weapons. Stop supporting those who seek to derail it.

Travis007 · Mar 23, 2015

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Montecresto said:
Stop the fear mongering. Don't trust Israel. Bibi's been crying wolf on Iranian nukes for twenty five years. Jesus dude, take a Valium. This is a historic opportunity to make peace with Iran and ensure they don't produce nuclear weapons. Stop supporting those who seek to derail it.

the fear mongering is from Iran..

there will be no peace.. Iran is Imperial and a hegemony.. and aligned with Russia, and N Korea.. with vicious proxies as their forces today on the march...

Your posts are naive nonsense

Israel was right.. it started in 2002 .. Israel alerted the UN to be chastized and the issue was not allowed to be discussed