Obama Sends Iran a Nowruz Message, Calls Nuclear Talks a 'Historic Opportunity[W:274]

Anthony60 · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
Are you trying to suggest that the others aren't involved. Lol. Also, they all closed an interim deal in 2013, and they'll close this one too, if the obstructionists, the opponents of peace don't succeed in derailing it.

Wait, didn't Obama just announce that the leader of Iran has declared some kind of Fartwa against producing nuclear weapons, as he was telling them how we are all celebrating Nowruz (I know I am!)?

So what are we negotiating? They just canned their Nuke program.

MMC · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
No there not. Not to every one. There are independent thinkers who view issues on their merits rather than a parties ideology. Not everyone lines up and votes the party like you. But I'll concede that most do.

Yes even to independents even though they aren't part of a party. Their politics would be partisan to them. You can now move to the middle of the class.

Oh and I don't vote down the party line nor have I ever.....despite your tangent on using both US parties to run around with that Anti American rhetoric and trash the US. Showing all just how much you luv this Country.

matchlight · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
You are consumed, obsessed even with with trashing the American president, his party and all his supporters daily, constantly, you probably dream about it. There's nothing more UNAMERICAN than a patronizing partisan that demonizes one side, and thinks his **** doesn't stink. And you my dear, own that!!!!

What drivel. Agressive partisan debate, including harsh attacks on politicians, has been a staple feature of American culture since the beginning, before there was a United States. Political debate is completely American, which explains why America-hating collectivists detest free speech. They pout when anyone dares disagree with what they imagine to be their superior wisdom, just like their limpwristed, petulant president. These people usually fancy themselves "liberals," and yet they are the very opposite--nasty, intolerant, and bent on controlling other people.

anatta · Mar 21, 2015

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brothern said:
I'm perfectly happy with the tact that Obama is taking with Iran.

The majority of the world is able to work perfectly decently with Iran. As a German, for example, you can fly into Iran and live and work at the Iranian branch of Siemens or Krupp without any Iranian or German ever thinking twice. It's a completely unremarkable situation, because believe it or not, Iran is a completely middle-of-the-road, 80 million pop country that falls into line with the expectations/problems we have with every other non-Western developing country.

America (and Israel) is the only odd one out here. No other countries have such bizarre trust issues with Iran, nor does Iran have such difficulty rest of the world, probably because the rest of the world doesn't have such a large number of Cowboy-diplomat, conservative jingoists who seem to want to level Iran every chance they get.

Iran is "middle of the road?" Look I get the idea the Europeans are lining up for business deals, and I really am not all that concerned with Iranian nukes
one way or the other ( I don't even thing Iran wants them at this point -they are doing quite well in Yemen/Damascus/Lebanon/Iraq..
and I've rad about their intelligence infiltrations too ( but I don't felllike sourcing that -so you can ignore it if you want).
The point is they are bent on regional dominance and hegemony - and not just the "Shiite Crescent" either

The Iranian people are decent, and pro-western. They were before the revolution, and if you go to Tehran you'll see lipstick shops ,and make up, and Iranian women with nose jobs for fashion. ( Tehran has more nose jobs then even Beverly Hills)

But you'll also find the "fashion police" and they will take women off to jail for "over-exposure" (sic).

It's not a middle of the road regime. It's repressive/secretive/and despodic/and if you recall the 2009 election
the basij had no compunction murdering there own people in the street.

Remember Neda?

Iranian Girl Shot: Neda Becomes Symbol Of Rebellion In Iran
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/06/22/neda-becomes-symbol-of-re_n_218804.html?

She lies in the Tehran street with her headscarf half-off, blood pooling around her jeans and white sneakers.

"Don't be afraid, Neda dear, don't be afraid," a white-haired man says desperately in Persian. Another man presses on her chest, trying to keep her alive.

Scarlet blood gushes from her nose and mouth and courses across her pale face. Men and women scream in horror as they realize she is dead or dying.

So spare us with "America & Israel" are out of touch, and look at the Gulf states too who are increasingly worried about Iranian tentacles
in the region.

The Iranian people have a vibrant culture and history, and much of it is frowned upon by the regime.
It's a dour, and mirthless bunch of clerics led by Khamenei -and his tweets of "Israel must be wiped off the map"

anatta · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
Anyone who has traveled to Iran knows what a wonderful country it is. Most Americans don't make it over there and are easily frightened by an agenda driven government with corporate interests at stake. "Do we have to wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city?"

the people are wonderful, Persian culture is wonderful, and if you stay in the cities you won't find a lot of "death to America"
You'll find more in the countryside.. kina like our cities tend to be more cosmopolitan

But not the regime..the regime is bent on..
Radical Shia Eschatology, Iran’s View of the End Times
https://ronconte.wordpress.com/2012/01/15/radical-shia-eschatology-irans-view-of-the-end-times/

Both Christianity and Islam have prophecies about the End Times (the apocalypse). In one Muslim prophecy, Islam conquers Europe. In another Muslim prophecy, Islam conquers the whole world: all Christians and Jews either convert or die. In the radical Shia version of Islamic eschatology, the end times is seen as a time of war, in which Islam succeeds in conquering Christians and Jews. This war is viewed as the path to an eventually domination of the whole world by Islam.

Now you might object to this information about Muslim eschatology, saying that no nation is influenced or led by this type of apocalyptic theology. Not so. There have been repeated reports in the news media that the President of Iran, and some of the Ayatollahs who installed him in that position, are believers in a particular and very radical version of Muslim eschatology.
Iran’s Ayatollah Ali Khamenei and President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad are convinced that the End of Days has come. They believe the Shia messiah known as the ‘Twelfth Imam’ or the ‘Mahdi’ will appear soon to establish a global Islamic kingdom known as the caliphate

in this regards they aren't any better then ISIL - which is Sunni fundamentalism apocalyptic

Travis007 · Mar 21, 2015

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annata said:
Iran is "middle of the road?" Look I get the idea the Europeans are lining up for business deals, and I really am not all that concerned with Iranian nukes
one way or the other ( I don't even thing Iran wants them at this point -they are doing quite well in Yemen/Damascus/Lebanon/Iraq..
and I've rad about their intelligence infiltrations too ( but I don't felllike sourcing that -so you can ignore it if you want).
The point is they are bent on regional dominance and hegemony - and not just the "Shiite Crescent" either

The Iranian people are decent, and pro-western. They were before the revolution, and if you go to Tehran you'll see lipstick shops ,and make up, and Iranian women with nose jobs for fashion. ( Tehran has more nose jobs then even Beverly Hills)

But you'll also find the "fashion police" and they will take women off to jail for "over-exposure" (sic).

It's not a middle of the road regime. It's repressive/secretive/and despodic/and if you recall the 2009 election
the basij had no compunction murdering there own people in the street.

Remember Neda?

Iranian Girl Shot: Neda Becomes Symbol Of Rebellion In Iran
Iranian Girl Shot: Neda Becomes Symbol Of Rebellion In Iran

So spare us with "America & Israel" are out of touch, and look at the Gulf states too who are increasingly worried about Iranian tentacles
in the region.

The Iranian people have a vibrant culture and history, and much of it is frowned upon by the regime.
It's a dour, and mirthless bunch of clerics led by Khamenei -and his tweets of "Israel must be wiped off the map"

great post... thank you for mentioning Neda... very brave women

Renae · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
Are you trying to suggest that the others aren't involved. Lol. Also, they all closed an interim deal in 2013, and they'll close this one too, if the obstructionists, the opponents of peace don't succeed in derailing it.

If Iran suddenly, say in later 2015 or 2016 tests a nuke, what will say? Will you care?

If Iran lobs one across at Israel, will you care?

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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Anthony60 said:
Wait, didn't Obama just announce that the leader of Iran has declared some kind of Fartwa against producing nuclear weapons, as he was telling them how we are all celebrating Nowruz (I know I am!)?

So what are we negotiating? They just canned their Nuke program.

Iran is likely patronizing P5+1. The fatwa isn't new.

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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MrVicchio said:
If Iran suddenly, say in later 2015 or 2016 tests a nuke, what will say? Will you care?

If Iran lobs one across at Israel, will you care?

Sure, just as I would have cared had Hussein produced a mushroom cloud over a US city. But he didn't, he had neither the interest or the means. I guess some people never learn a lesson. Clumsy as he was at expressing it, Bush did tell you, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
Iran is likely patronizing P5+1. The fatwa isn't new.

They're not going to be allowed to have a nuclear program without western sniffers.

Renae · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
They're not going to be allowed to have a nuclear program without western sniffers.

Because, inspectors always get to the bottom of things right?

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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MMC said:
Yes even to independents even though they aren't part of a party. Their politics would be partisan to them. You can now move to the middle of the class.

Oh and I don't vote down the party line nor have I ever.....despite your tangent on using both US parties to run around with that Anti American rhetoric and trash the US. Showing all just how much you luv this Country.

I don't owe you jack ****. And your hatred of the American president is obvious to all. As is your hatred of one half of Americans, the entire Democratic Party and all of Obama's supporters. That's hate. I criticize US policies that are drafted and advanced by a comparative few. And you would have never criticized Bush, had he offered the Iranians a New Years greeting. But such is your hypocrisy, you'll never confess to that.

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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MrVicchio said:
Because, inspectors always get to the bottom of things right?

Not if you tell them to get the hell out of the way, and start bombing, no. There could have been no Iraq war had Blix been allowed to finish his UN appointed job. He had to be ordered out. With any luck, Obama will follow the rational path he's been on, and freaks like McCain and Netanyahu will be forced to sit, quietly!

Objective Voice · Mar 21, 2015

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brothern said:
I'm perfectly happy with the tact that Obama is taking with Iran.

The majority of the world is able to work perfectly decently with Iran. As a German, for example, you can fly into Iran and live and work at the Iranian branch of Siemens or Krupp without any Iranian or German ever thinking twice. It's a completely unremarkable situation, because believe it or not, Iran is a completely middle-of-the-road, 80 million pop country that falls into line with the expectations/problems we have with every other non-Western developing country.

America (and Israel) is the only odd one out here. No other countries have such bizarre trust issues with Iran, nor does Iran have such difficulty rest of the world, probably because the rest of the world doesn't have such a large number of Cowboy-diplomat, conservative jingoists who seem to want to level Iran every chance they get.

Reagan wrote to and even phoned Gorbachev often during nuclear arms negotiations. Yet, the far Right-wing space nuts thumb their noses up over Pres. Obama doing the same thing with Iran? How absurd!

Are you guys that fearful of Iran nuking us or do you really despise any and all efforts at peace at every turn when a Democrat tries it? Are you that desperate to go to war?

DA60 · Mar 21, 2015

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Why you people seem to be so scared of a nuclear armed Iran is beyond me.

What exactly is this horrific thing they will do with these bombs if they got them?

Attack America? Even if they had the means..to what end? So they can immediately be obliterated by an American counter strike? No.

Attack Israel? Why? So they can immediately be obliterated by an Israeli counter strike with nuclear-tipped IRBM's? No.

And please save the utter nonsense of 'they will use them in a suicide attack against Israel/America because that's what radical Muslims do.' Lol...riiiiiight. They go to all this effort, decades of development and huge cost just to build some nukes to take out Israel with (even though they are not even sure they will get through Israel's missile system system) and then get themselves killed in the process? Don't make me laugh. Politicians (even religious ones) don't go to all the effort to get power just top kill themselves. They do it because they LOVE POWER. And they almost ALL want to hold on to it every second that they can.

Surely even those ultra-paranoid-types about Iran must think their leadership is no nuttier then the whackjobs who have run North Korea since they developed nukes. And what have they done with them? Zip. Just like the 'evil' Soviet Union did zip with theirs...even as their empire was collapsing.

Iran getting nukes is not good...the less people that have them, the better.

But them getting them is getting GIGANTICALLY overblown by the U.S. government, media and masses.

Plus, if they do get them, it might make Israel's leaders act a tad nicer to their neighbors/the Palestinians (though I doubt it) since they will no longer have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East.

brothern · Mar 21, 2015

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annata said:
Iran is "middle of the road?" Look I get the idea the Europeans are lining up for business deals, and I really am not all that concerned with Iranian nukes
one way or the other ( I don't even thing Iran wants them at this point -they are doing quite well in Yemen/Damascus/Lebanon/Iraq..
and I've rad about their intelligence infiltrations too ( but I don't felllike sourcing that -so you can ignore it if you want).
The point is they are bent on regional dominance and hegemony - and not just the "Shiite Crescent" either

The Iranian people are decent, and pro-western. They were before the revolution, and if you go to Tehran you'll see lipstick shops ,and make up, and Iranian women with nose jobs for fashion. ( Tehran has more nose jobs then even Beverly Hills)

But you'll also find the "fashion police" and they will take women off to jail for "over-exposure" (sic).

It's not a middle of the road regime. It's repressive/secretive/and despodic/and if you recall the 2009 election
the basij had no compunction murdering there own people in the street.

Remember Neda?

Iranian Girl Shot: Neda Becomes Symbol Of Rebellion In Iran
Iranian Girl Shot: Neda Becomes Symbol Of Rebellion In Iran

So spare us with "America & Israel" are out of touch, and look at the Gulf states too who are increasingly worried about Iranian tentacles
in the region.

The Iranian people have a vibrant culture and history, and much of it is frowned upon by the regime.
It's a dour, and mirthless bunch of clerics led by Khamenei -and his tweets of "Israel must be wiped off the map"

Lol, annata, you've just proved my point exactly. Take Neda. Yes, Neda Agha-Soltan was murdered by the military police in Iran. However that's unfortunately unremarkable in light of what happens across the world. Russia just killed one of its most well known opposition leaders in February; Egyptian protester Shaimaa el-Sabbagh was murdered by the Egyptian police in January. A Tajik dissident leader was shot dead in Istanbul two weeks ago. I remember Neda, but I don't think she's evidence that Iran is more evil than any other of these regimes. Iran falls into the crowd where it comes to these types of states.

Here, my distinct concern is with American nationalists who have the unfounded and unusual belief that Iran, and only Iran, is equatable to pure evil. Obviously these people aren't fans of other countries and would love to start an armed conflict with Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba or whomever is on their hit-list, but it's Iran that they're focused in on at the moment. Damn the pro-Western Iranian population or their vibrant culture, damn anything that indicates Iran is good-willed; we're watching a significant portion of the US government desperately trying to undermine not only a peace negotiation with Iran, but are undermine the sincere efforts of moderates within the Iranian government.

anatta · Mar 21, 2015

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Objective Voice said:
Reagan wrote to and even phoned Gorbachev often during nuclear arms negotiations. Yet, the far Right-wing space nuts thumb their noses up over Pres. Obama doing the same thing with Iran? How absurd!

Are you guys that fearful of Iran nuking us or do you really despise any and all efforts at peace at every turn when a Democrat tries it? Are you that desperate to go to war?

This was a fairly recent movie "the coming" ( the twelth Iman Madhi)
http://atimetobetray.com/blog/iran-...-–-israel-shall-be-destroyed-watch-the-video/
Their belief is based on the centuries old Hadith by Prophet Mohammad and his descendants, who have provided clear guidance as to the timing of The Coming.

According to the Hadith in the age of The Coming, a revolution takes place in Iran. This is a key sign indicating that the reappearance is near and serves as the initial preparation in the worldwide movement for The Coming of the last messiah. Based on this belief, the leaders of Iran see it as their duty to prepare the ground for The Coming. One of the most important events to securing the reappearance of the last Messiah, as called for in the Hadith, is the annihilation of Israel and conquering Beitol Moghadas (Jerusalem). They state with conviction that Islam will soon conquer the world and all infidels will be destroyed.

The pursuit of nuclear bombs by the radicals ruling Iran is directly connected to this belief, as war, chaos, and lawlessness must engulf the world to pave the way for Imam Mahdi’s reappearance

I don't know - I don't think anyone "knows" exactly what the Iranain theocracy wants or not.

I found this to be a good look at the rise of Iranian fundamentalism:
Shiite Islam and Islamic Fundamentalism | Martin Kramer on the Middle East

The second radical reinterpretation concerned the role of the ulama—those learned in Shiite law. The traditional view held that human history had gone so far astray that only God could right it, that all government was corrupt, and that true men of God kept their distance from rulers and their palaces. The Messiah would eventually right all wrongs; it remained to the ulama to keep alive the pure flame, so that man might always know the true way. But the reinterpreters, going back to a particular text, suddenly announced that this traditional interpretation had not only been flawed, but that God had intended exactly the opposite: that the clerics themselves should rule, that they should struggle to implement God’s law here and now, that they should leave their dry books and lead the people to anti-imperialist revolution and justice.

so who really knows..ISIL we know about, but the Shia equivalent in Iran we just don't

brothern · Mar 21, 2015

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Objective Voice said:
Reagan wrote to and even phoned Gorbachev often during nuclear arms negotiations. Yet, the far Right-wing space nuts thumb their noses up over Pres. Obama doing the same thing with Iran? How absurd!

Are you guys that fearful of Iran nuking us or do you really despise any and all efforts at peace at every turn when a Democrat tries it? Are you that desperate to go to war?

I think you quoted the wrong person. I'm supportive of the P5+1 Iranian negotiations.

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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Objective Voice said:
Reagan wrote to and even phoned Gorbachev often during nuclear arms negotiations. Yet, the far Right-wing space nuts thumb their noses up over Pres. Obama doing the same thing with Iran? How absurd!

Are you guys that fearful of Iran nuking us or do you really despise any and all efforts at peace at every turn when a Democrat tries it? Are you that desperate to go to war?

Indubitably. Hatred of Obama is confounding rational engagement.

MMC · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
I don't owe you jack ****. And your hatred of the American president is obvious to all. As is your hatred of one half of Americans, the entire Democratic Party and all of Obama's supporters. That's hate. I criticize US policies that are drafted and advanced by a comparative few. And you would have never criticized Bush, had he offered the Iranians a New Years greeting. But such is your hypocrisy, you'll never confess to that.

Who said you did Monte.....oh and that's exactly what you do. Hate on the US and like you have shown. You don't care if they are Democrat or Republican. Don't forget in one of your other rants on the US.

You blamed the US for its beginnings even before we became a nation. Now that's Hate Monte.....and you wear it well.

anatta · Mar 21, 2015

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brothern said:
Lol, annata, you've just proved my point exactly. Take Neda. Yes, Neda Agha-Soltan was murdered by the military police in Iran. However that's unfortunately unremarkable in light of what happens across the world. Russia just killed one of its most well known opposition leaders in February; Egyptian protester Shaimaa el-Sabbagh was murdered by the Egyptian police in January. A Tajik dissident leader was shot dead in Istanbul two weeks ago. I remember Neda, but I don't think she's evidence that Iran is more evil than any other of these regimes. Iran falls into the crowd where it comes to these types of states.

Here, my distinct concern is with American nationalists who have the unfounded and unusual belief that Iran, and only Iran, is equatable to pure evil. Obviously these people aren't fans of other countries and would love to start an armed conflict with Russia, China, North Korea, Cuba or whomever is on their hit-list, but it's Iran that they're focused in on at the moment. Damn the pro-Western Iranian population or their vibrant culture, damn anything that indicates Iran is good-willed; we're watching a significant portion of the US government desperately trying to undermine not only a peace negotiation with Iran, but are undermine the sincere efforts of moderates within the Iranian government.

Neda wasn't an "opposition leader" , I don' even remember if she was part of the protests or just out in the streets when the Basij ran wild thru the streets indiscriminately killing..

It was pure reactionaryism to the very concept of democracy undermining the iron grip of the Ayatollah and the Guardian Council.

Egypt had the Tahrir Square protests - these were popular protests against the E.Muslim Brottherhood usurping the Constitution and imposing a creeping
fundamentalism on the Egyptian people who are the most secular of all Arab countries.

I do agree with you on Russia, except again that wasn't the secret police run wild like in Iran.

I don't go in for statements like "pure evil" there is plenty of that , but most regimes are some of each.

The danger with Iran is "is it a rational actor" or not? Does it operate with rational understanding of MAD, if it got nukes -
or as I've posted a few times, is the theocracy hell bent on bringing the end of times to fufill the Hadith?

That's what makes this so ( possibly) dangerous - that and the fact Iranian hegemony is run wild,and Obama refuses to see it.

If Obama would agree to a Congressional vote on the new negotiations (which he is not)
do you think Congress wouldn't be in such an uproar?

This is a MAJOR arms control agreement and should be treated as such

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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DA60 said:
Why you people seem to be so scared of a nuclear armed Iran is beyond me.

What exactly is this horrific thing they will do with these bombs if they got them?

Attack America? Even if they had the means..to what end? So they can immediately be obliterated by an American counter strike? No.

Attack Israel? Why? So they can immediately be obliterated by an Israeli counter strike with nuclear-tipped IRBM's? No.

And please save the utter nonsense of 'they will use them in a suicide attack against Israel/America because that's what radical Muslims do.' Lol...riiiiiight. They go to all this effort, decades of development and huge cost just to build some nukes to take out Israel with (even though they are not even sure they will get through Israel's missile system system) and then get themselves killed in the process? Don't make me laugh. Politicians (even religious ones) don't go to all the effort to get power just top kill themselves. They do it because they LOVE POWER. And they almost ALL want to hold on to it every second that they can.

Surely even those ultra-paranoid-types about Iran must think their leadership is no nuttier then the whackjobs who have run North Korea since they developed nukes. And what have they done with them? Zip. Just like the 'evil' Soviet Union did zip with theirs...even as their empire was collapsing.

Iran getting nukes is not good...the less people that have them, the better.

But them getting them is getting GIGANTICALLY overblown by the U.S. government, media and masses.

Plus, if they do get them, it might make Israel's leaders act a tad nicer to their neighbors/the Palestinians (though I doubt it) since they will no longer have a nuclear monopoly in the Middle East.

The Council on Foreign Relations has advanced the argument that a nuclear weapon powered Iran would be a stabilizing factor in the region!

washunut · Mar 21, 2015

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Montecresto said:
The Council on Foreign Relations has advanced the argument that a nuclear weapon powered Iran would be a stabilizing factor in the region!

Link please.

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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MMC said:
Who said you did Monte.....oh and that's exactly what you do. Hate on the US and like you have shown. You don't care if they are Democrat or Republican. Don't forget in one of your other rants on the US.

You blamed the US for its beginnings even before we became a nation. Now that's Hate Monte.....and you wear it well.

No, I criticize government policies. You on the other hand, hate on the American president, and his party, and all his supporters. You really should seek help and counseling for such self destructive behavior. And your hypocrisy, that's not helping anything in America, it perpetuates more government wrong doing.

Now, before we get a in thread warning, tell me exactly why it is that you can't even leave your criticism behind concerning Obama extending a New Years greeting to the Iranians, hmm. Really, what is harmful in that?

Montecresto · Mar 21, 2015

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washunut said:
Link please.

Why Iran Should Get the Bomb
Nuclear Balancing Would Mean Stability

Why Iran Should Get the Bomb - Council on Foreign Relations