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Sandy Hook families sue estate of shooter's mother[W:52]

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Not at all. I've locked horns with you before on this issue so I know theres not a whole lot of point in reasoning with you using facts and logic because you are too far gone. If it upsets you then perhaps you should go and stroke your guns if it makes you feel better. I've little time for flag wavers :roll:

See...this post demonstrates no more fact and logic than anything else you've posted. And it's creepy.
 
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Japan and China have had several mass stabbing incidents...of school kids, no less!

Damn, I think it's the schools that are dangerous!

You are correct they did. How many of those kids actually died ?
 
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You are correct they did. How many of those kids actually died ?

Lots. How many kids died in the single incident that pushed your country over the edge? Less.
 
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That wasnt the only mass stabbing.

The point you are so desperate to miss is that guns are far more lethal than knives in such attacks
 
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Japan and China have had several mass stabbing incidents...of school kids, no less!

Damn, I think it's the schools that are dangerous!

Ban schools, and it won't happen again. I'd suggest banning knives but that would make Benihana not so much fun to go to.
 
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And when a smart American responds rationally I'll take notice :roll:

We feel the same way about Haymarket. Hopefully you'll find a rational ally on here, but I wouldn't count on it, given your posts.
 
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The point you are so desperate to miss is that guns are far more lethal than knives in such attacks

The point you are so desperate to miss is that people choose to put themselves AND their children in harm's way every day in cars, and risk death and injury at higher rates, than ever occur due to guns. Yet people would choose to *take away rights* to self defense and gun ownership in order to propagate irrational fear.

If the fear was rational, they'd be changing their driving habits and frequency. But they kid themselves into believing cars are 'good,' necessary, even indispensable. That's not true. Cars are machines, not good or bad. Same with guns. All are subject to the people running them. And every single day I am more at risk from being killed or injured from a car...even if I'm not driving!...than I am from a gun.

People dont care about 'deaths', they have been sold a packet of lives based on terrible and uncommon incidents. Instead of recognizing the wholesale carnage spread out across the country every week. Hyperbole? Yeah, just like the hysteria surrounding guns.

If they cared about 'deaths,' as I wrote, they'd be changing their driving habits and frequency. But they are happy to take those risks....nothing but perceptions, not reality.
 
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nope, his argument is extreme-he wants Americans disarmed like the Brits.. Public Safety is just a facade

I was referring to his lawnmower comments.
 
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The point you are so desperate to miss is that guns are far more lethal than knives in such attacks

Again....mentally ill people can be very very dangerous and kill large numbers of people.

So....why not fix the actual problem...stopping the mentally ill from harming people? Let's see...how do you do that?
 
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gun banners generally are not honest about their ultimate goals.

What is the point of anyone posting here if your attitude is YOU ARE LYING IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME.

It is your all purpose phony ace up your sleeve card that pretends to permit you to discount anything anyone actually says and merely use it as springboard #1,278 or so in going off on a rant and screaming about "gun banners" and "their real desires.

How can any site have intelligent discussion between people with different views if you approach things from that dishonest perspective?

 
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We feel the same way about Haymarket. Hopefully you'll find a rational ally on here, but I wouldn't count on it, given your posts.

So far he is the only voice of moderation I've heard amongst the zealotry. You have an almost religious belief system over there that knows no compromise and cannot be reasoned with when it comes to the total idolatry of firearms. :(
 
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It's worked fine, even if you dont want to recognize it. It has not been remotely exposed as innaccurate, that's false. THe fact that few restrictions have been placed on gun owners...altho the threat remains...proves Americans are not as concerned about "death" as anti-gun people would like us to believe.

The fact that cannot be denied kills and obliterates your phony false equivalency:
Cars are made as a means of transportation.
Firearms are made as a weapon to shooting others.
 
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Ban schools, and it won't happen again. I'd suggest banning knives but that would make Benihana not so much fun to go to.

Apparently it's ok to kill large numbers of kids on the roads every week, as long as they are spread out and not all in one place where *it seems more horrific.* Me...I think it's pretty horriifc, period.

But yes, if you continue to concentrate kids...or any people...in areas where they are not protected or cannot protect themselves, then they are always going to be vulnerable to crazy or malicious people who wish to do harm.
 
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Again....mentally ill people can be very very dangerous and kill large numbers of people.

So....why not fix the actual problem...stopping the mentally ill from harming people? Let's see...how do you do that?

Obviously keeping guns out of their hands should be the first priority, but I supposed in the crazy mentality of the gunners that would be in breach of their 2A rights ! :shock:
 
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The fact that cannot be denied kills and obliterates your phony false equivalency:
Cars are made as a means of transportation.
Firearms are made as a weapon to shooting others.

How does that change the body count?

What's more important? Your personal fear and dislike of guns or the body count? Perhaps if you were actually concerned about deaths, you'd join MADD or be in DC lobbying Congress for more laws restricting who can drive and when and how.
 
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Obviously keeping guns out of their hands should be the first priority, but I supposed in the crazy mentality of the gunners that would be in breach of their 2A rights ! :shock:

So the rights of the few are more important than the rights of the many? You punish all law-abiding citizens because of a few (terrible) incidents?

That *might* make sense if you were trying to prevent *deaths* period and taking the same measures to protect citizens from car accidents. Dont see it tho. Because those deaths are just as terrible...just not all in one place where you can wring your hearts over it. Funny....maybe you dont feel they are as deserving of your sympathy? It's better they died as the result of car trauma, not gun trauma?
 
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The point you are so desperate to miss is that people choose to put themselves AND their children in harm's way every day in cars, and risk death and injury at higher rates, than ever occur due to guns. Yet people would choose to *take away rights* to self defense and gun ownership in order to propagate irrational fear.

If the fear was rational, they'd be changing their driving habits and frequency. But they kid themselves into believing cars are 'good,' necessary, even indispensable. That's not true. Cars are machines, not good or bad. Same with guns. All are subject to the people running them. And every single day I am more at risk from being killed or injured from a car...even if I'm not driving!...than I am from a gun.

People dont care about 'deaths', they have been sold a packet of lives based on terrible and uncommon incidents. Instead of recognizing the wholesale carnage spread out across the country every week. Hyperbole? Yeah, just like the hysteria surrounding guns.

If they cared about 'deaths,' as I wrote, they'd be changing their driving habits and frequency. But they are happy to take those risks....nothing but perceptions, not reality.

You've played this card before so many times and it's been trumped so many times. If you won't read the responses then don't waste my time
 
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So far he is the only voice of moderation I've heard amongst the zealotry. You have an almost religious belief system over there that knows no compromise and cannot be reasoned with when it comes to the total idolatry of firearms. :(

Just because you are suckered in by the emotional blackmail of 'classrooms full of dead kids' and cant see that those incidents are uncommon, like commercial plane crashes, yet unable to see that more deaths occur due to cars isnt our fault. Weak and biased minds are not something we wish to encourage in America.

The irrationality of taking a Constitutional right away from millions of law-abiding citizens because of a few inflammatory incidents is not being bought into, fortunately, by the majority of Americans. You dont punish the good because of the bad acts of others. :doh
 
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You've played this card before so many times and it's been trumped so many times. If you won't read the responses then don't waste my time

More irrationality if you think it's been 'trumped.'

I see you couldnt do so.
 
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So the rights of the few are more important than the rights of the many? You punish all law-abiding citizens because of a few (terrible) incidents?

That *might* make sense if you were trying to prevent *deaths* period and taking the same measures to protect citizens from car accidents. Dont see it tho. Because those deaths are just as terrible...just not all in one place where you can wring your hearts over it. Funny....maybe you dont feel they are as deserving of your sympathy? It's better they died as the result of car trauma, not gun trauma?

You are wasting my time again . We have car accidents too but almost no gun deaths. You have car accidents PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 gun deaths per annum. Why is that a good thing ?
 
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How does that change the body count?

What's more important? Your personal fear and dislike of guns or the body count? Perhaps if you were actually concerned about deaths, you'd join MADD or be in DC lobbying Congress for more laws restricting who can drive and when and how.

Body count? I have no idea what your point is?
 
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You are wasting my time again . We have car accidents too but almost no gun deaths. You have car accidents PLUS AN ADDITIONAL 30,000 gun deaths per annum. Why is that a good thing ?

So....where are the efforts to reduce all the car deaths? Those could be reduced BY FAR by eliminating private car ownership or greatly restricting it.

Why isnt that happening? (Thanks btw, you are making my point for me)

Why are THOSE car-related deaths "acceptable" but the much rarer (even before banned) gun deaths?

Emotion overcoming common sense is my Reader's Digest comment on that.
 
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Body count? I have no idea what your point is?

Yes you do.

Body count from car accidents, body count from gun incidents.

You wont answer it, lol, I knew that when I posted it but it's still there for people to read.
 
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