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Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president

§§ 215, 216 & 217: “Children born overseas to parents who are foreigners in that country do not become natural born citizens of that country, rather they are citizens of the country to which their parents owe allegiance.”[/B][/FONT][/COLOR][/INDENT]

this sounds like Cruz and McCain. Their parents - or mother, in Cruz' case - owed allegiance to the US.

And by the way - things have changed since 1775.
 
At least he is a person that defends our personal freedoms and the Constitution. I wonder if Obama has ever said anything supporting individual freedoms.

You mean like our right to abortion or our right to same-sex marriage?
 
No they are not. They are not natural born Citizens.

You think you know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court Justices? :lamo:lamo:lamo
 
§§ 215, 216 & 217: “Children born overseas to parents who are foreigners in that country do not become natural born citizens of that country, rather they are citizens of the country to which their parents owe allegiance.”
this sounds like Cruz and McCain. Their parents - or mother, in Cruz' case - owed allegiance to the US.
Really? :doh
Patty that does not say natural born Citizen of their country.
It says citizen.

I am not trying to be rude, but you do not have the knowledge or understanding of what is being discussed to make appropriate arguments.



And by the way - things have changed since 1775.
Not the meaning of the term natural born Citizen.
It is not permissible for it to even mean the same thing as just "Citizen".
 
You think you know the Constitution better than the Supreme Court Justices? :lamo:lamo:lamo
You are not making any sense.
When did the Supreme Court Justices ever rule on the meaning?

Let me clue you in. They haven't.
 
It's all over the net, just google it.

Cruz's father, who was born in 1939 in Matanzas, Cuba,[19][20] as Robert T. Garrett of the Dallas Morning News has described, "suffered beatings and imprisonment for protesting the oppressive regime"[19][24] of dictator Fulgencio Batista. He fought for Fidel Castro in the Cuban Revolution[25][26] when he was 14 years old, but "didn't know Castro was a Communist.

Ted Cruz - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

That made me laugh. There was little doubt that Castro had been a marxist and far leftist for nearly 10 years. His brother was a prominent member of the socialist PSP long before the revolution got underway. There is nothing like the revisionist history of some older Cubans though.
 
Good... because he is a loser and it would mean a Democrat victory.
 
Lawyers say Canadian-born Cruz eligible to run for president | Fox News

"While questions about Canadian-born Sen. Ted Cruz’s eligibility to be president haven’t drawn much attention, two former Justice Department lawyers have weighed in with a bipartisan verdict: Cruz, they say, is eligible to run for the White House. Neal Katyal, acting solicitor general in the Obama administration, and Paul Clemente, solicitor general in President George W. Bush’s administration, got out in front of the issue in a Harvard Law Review article. “There is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a ‘natural born Citizen’ within the meaning of the Constitution,” they wrote."

"The law review article, “On the Meaning of ‘Natural Born Citizen”, asserts that the interpretation of the term was settled in Cruz’s favor as early as the 1700’s. The lawyers wrote that the Supreme Court has long used British common law and enactments of the First Congress for guidance on defining a “natural born citizen.” “Both confirm that the original meaning of the phrase ‘natural born Citizen’ includes persons born abroad who are citizens from birth based on the citizenship of a parent,” they wrote. They concluded someone like Cruz had “no need to go through naturalization proceedings,” making him eligible. Cruz is still weighing a presidential run.

"Last month, Cruz addressed the citizenship issue during a question-and-answer session with moderator Sean Hannity, of Fox News, at the Conservative Political Action Conference. “I was born in Calgary. My mother was an American citizen by birth,” Cruz said. “Under federal law, that made me an American citizen by birth. The Constitution requires that you be a natural-born citizen.”


Why was Obama given so much flack about this very thing? His mother was natural born as well. I'm not really understanding this. IMO, He wasn't born here naturally, he should not be allowed to run. Where his mom was born really shouldn't count. Where he was should.
We elected a Kenyan so why not? At least Cruse is honest about his origins.
 
I didn't know Sarah was running

In keeping with the day, Coastal Carolina has a much better chance of winning the NCAA tourney than Sarah Palin ever has of seeing the White House, except as a guest (assuming a Democrat would invite her) or tourist.
 
In keeping with the day, Coastal Carolina has a much better chance of winning the NCAA tourney than Sarah Palin ever has of seeing the White House, except as a guest (assuming a Democrat would invite her) or tourist.

Wow, there's an original. Yawn.
 
You must mean the sum of the states and territories.

It may be one of Obama's 57 states, I'm not sure.

You didn't say Obama was born in Kenya did you ?
 
You mean like our right to abortion or our right to same-sex marriage?

And the remarks from Cruz's father have yet to be magnified.
They make Ron Paul's racist newsletters and Rand Paul's Southern Avenger look like choir boys.
Every new day, this GOP is becoming the dream of Lee Atwater .
 
I like all the hateful responses, with absolutely nothing to back them up. We have years of Obama abusing us, the Constitution and just being plain stupid that makes it clear where he is on the spectrum.

Sure we do.
 
Let him run. Not remotely worried about him.

As a matter of fact, it would be the best thing possible for Democrats.
 
While Pres. Obama is half-black, half-white (approx), he self-identifies as black, and he is treated as black, particularly by the racists who hate his presidency.

Sadly, the country is not as color-blind as you are.

It's a very stupid observation. "African Americans" almost all have white blood from their abuse when they were slaves. Few have only African blood.

But the ignorant like to bring it up as if it's relevant. Blacks in this country have had little recourse but to identify with their visible attribute, almost as a defense mechanism...since the minute racist whites saw them THEY immediately declared them 'black', no matter how dark or light.

I find that and the old 'one drop' laws particularly offensive. Traces back to a MASH episode during my childhood I think, when they discussed black people dying because they werent admitted to 'white only' hospitals and were, in that case, not given blood transfusions to save their lives.

Hence the old expression, a "compliment"....you are 'passin', meaning you could pass for white. It always made me sick to my stomach to hear it and read it after that as a kid...and adult.

/rant
 
If you judge him simply by the color of his skin, then Dr. King's words are lost on you.
To know what he is you would have to look at his life. Grew up with well off white grandparents who paid for him to attend a lily white private school. Never suffered or went without anything he wanted. Had everything handed to him on a silver platter. Like a Nobel peace prize. Descended from slave traders and slave owners, but not slaves. Which make his "we are the slaves that built the white house" comment even more laughable. He'll exploit anyone that is willing to follow him due to the fact that he kind of looks like them.
So, by what standard does one judge him as being "black"? It's certainly not the content of his character.
If it weren't for the amount of melanin in his skin and the letter after his name, many on the left would brand him a privileged white boy.

Dr. King's words were strong and meaningful...and still not a reality for most blacks growing up in the US.

Just because he said those things doesnt mean that is the reality for many...even most..."black-looking" people in the US.

Not only that, there is also the perspective that color is just a descriptor and not a judgement. That's fine...and if that's the case, cool. But if it is, then there's no doubt that Obama is black.
 
No.

Where do you get that idea from?

That seemed to be what you were saying to me. Here, just tell me this. In Excons mind, was John McCain, Barak Obama and Ted Cruz all three eligible for the presidency?
 
You believe Obama was actually born in Kenya?
About as much as I believe "african" americans are actually born in africa. What does Obama's birth place have to do with anything? I'm scottish/german and I wasn't born in scotland or germany. Please stop trying to derail the thread. We have a kenyan in office so it's no big deal if we elect a canadian. A canadian would actually be the better choice since 90% of the canadian population lives within 100 miles of the US border anyway and are likely more atune to US politics.
 
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