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Two Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station[W:263]

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Perhaps-but leftists will tell you that objectively bad behavior can't be called out because its racist. :doh

Even commenting on the fact that they speak and write worse than a fifth grader is condemned as racist. "It's their culture." As if we're the bad guys because we don't tolerate or want to hire people who can't speak or write proper English. Sheesh.
 
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Heres what I would like to see happen. I WOULD like to see Eric Holder become Eric Holder...law enforcement officer in Ferguson Missouri. He could hand pick 30-40 people and be responsible for the day to day enforcement of laws in that place. Commit to it for say...5 years. Show us the way. Who knows...it could be AWESOME.

I'm giving Holder props today. He came out with both fists swinging yesterday about the shooting of the cops. He had some very harsh words. Then there was our President on Kimmel last night, saying there were "No excuses" for what happened. And he Tweeted that "Violence against police is unacceptable". Such harsh words. He was far more outraged at the Cambridge police acting "stupidly".

I can't imagine why anyone would ever want to be a cop in this country again.
 
There's been multiple cases of black men being killed in various cities that were really unarmed and not threatening a police officer...since the Michael Brown shooting. Why do you think Ferguson has erupted like it has? The Michael Brown incident is an example of a flame setting of a tinderbox.

yeah, but it's really a media hyped thing, made to seem worse than it is if it exists at all.

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...ons-cops-shooting-black-men-article-1.2030545


During the Boston Massacre protesters threw rocks and British soldiers felt as if life was threatened so they opened fire, yet it pretty much galvanized the colonies because of perceived injustices for other reasons and served as a rallying cry.


I'm not sure this compares. Here you have a thug who strong armed robbed a bodega, charged a cop and got shot in the head justifiably. You had other criminals lie about what happened and an executive branch calling all police racist.

The whole thing was hyped up on a lie. The "galvinization" is played up by the ruling class and we have to ask ourselves, why. Why does this administration, the media, play up this racial divide?

Why do we here about every white dood that shoots a black dood, but never hear about black doods killing black doods. The #1 killer of black men 15-35 is other black men, not cops, not white doods.

So why is one hyped and the other not? Why is this idiocy of "white privelege" being shoved down our throats instead of "Stop black on black violence'?

Don't get me wrong, the wannabe warriors in ferguson didn't help the situation and are as much to blame as those previously mentioned. but the answer is a much harder and less politically correct pill we have to swallow.

Until then, this is what we'll get.
 
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Do you mean a even higher level of scrutiny than the already high level today?

Bullseye!!
 
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:eek:

Yeah, lets all pretend we are shocked that government employees have become the targets of some deranged gun owners.

Who could have imagined such a thing, Right ?





there are far more "deranged" government people you should be worried about.

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bbut bbut that's different, right?


The Government points guns at us far far more than we point guns at them,
 
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A con opinion piece in a con newspaper upping the ante on racism in your posts to me, as you originally accused Holder of saying my brothers were racists.


I've given you the proof, the executive branch thinks your brother is a racist.


You consistently post as a rightist GOP--common on DP.
I call you phony Libertarian RIPOs--Republicans In Posting Only


This makes you look foolish. Please post my conservative republican positions. Or stop lying.

You accused my brothers of being racist.

no, eric holder accused your brothers of being racist. /facepalm


We are Sons of the American Legion and my Dad was 22 years in the Air Force--8 more years in Civil Service.
You did your own Air Force service a disservice by accusing us of being racists--extension to my Dad.

Again, eric holder called your brother a racist, not me. I don't know your brother.

If your pops is ever in NYC or north jersey, have him look me up, I'll get him a beer at our VFW post. ;)



I did ask a GOP; I asked YOU--you were dishonest and denied who you were.
You have now entered the BIL Zone .

Please post my GOP positions.

Gay marriage? I support it
War on drugs? end it
military intervention? against it
coporate welfare? Nope.
patriot act? against
gays in the military? for
release all non violent offenders? for
police reform? for.




What else? please, it's a foolish game the extremist liberal "if you don't agree with me your a republican", doesn't make me look like the liar, or foolish, remember that. ;)
 
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I can't tell you. I don't live there, and I'm not the one declaring that the current police force is terrible and has to go. The local politicians there are all Democrats. Maybe they can say.

Of course you can't tell anyone, you have zero idea what it's like somewhere like there.

oh yeah remind me again how you're not a partisan? Please source that all local politicians are Democrats.

Crazy but the very first one I checked up on was a republican.

Council Members | Ferguson, MO - Official Website

Mark J Byrne, republican.

Mark J. Byrne, Previous Candidate for U.S. Representative District 1, Missouri


BOOM!

Can you retract your statement now?
 
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Of course you can't tell anyone, you have zero idea what it's like somewhere like there.

oh yeah remind me again how you're not a partisan? Please source that all local politicians are Democrats.

Crazy but the very first one I checked up on was a republican.

Council Members | Ferguson, MO - Official Website

Mark J Byrne, republican.

Mark J. Byrne, Previous Candidate for U.S. Representative District 1, Missouri


BOOM!

Can you retract your statement now?

Lmao... the city mayor is a Republican...

James Knowles III - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A member of the Republican Party, Knowles is a former chairman of the Missouri Young Republicans.[4] Knowles was a staff member for former Missouri state Senator and Democrat Ted House.[6] He is a former employee of the Ferguson Police Department, serving nearly four years in the department's communications division.[7][citation needed]
 
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Of course you can't tell anyone, you have zero idea what it's like somewhere like there.

oh yeah remind me again how you're not a partisan? Please source that all local politicians are Democrats.

Crazy but the very first one I checked up on was a republican.

Council Members | Ferguson, MO - Official Website

Mark J Byrne, republican.

Mark J. Byrne, Previous Candidate for U.S. Representative District 1, Missouri


BOOM!

Can you retract your statement now?

That was already discussed earlier. I already retracted the statement. Keep up please.
 
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Stupidity breeds stupidity. This entire fiasco was based on a lie from the beginning and now we have cops getting shot. **** like this makes me sick.

The claim that that Micheal Brown was assassinated by wilson was never clearly substantiated.

However, the DOJ's investigation did uncover a pattern of reckless abuse by the cops and city directed mostly at non-White residents, and although the documentation in that investigation has yet to be released to the public, the conclusions of that investigation were corroborated by actual video evidence of it happening by journalists around the world who covered the Ferguson protest riots.

So there was a clearly a problem--Ferguson's cops had been, for years, out of control. And so they needed to be spanked. Case closed.
 
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Boy this will end very well...

The retaliation by a victimized minority will likely kick some sense into the civility-starved FPD, as well as the DOJ lawsuit.

Every once in awhile, bad cops need to be spanked.
 
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You tell me? Maybe the police has been such a money maker that the politicians do not have the willingness to change the police force.

They're not much of a municipal money maker when the lawsuits come rolling in.
 
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Imo, you have to be REALLY dedicated, really corrupt or really stupid to want to be a cop in Ferguson right now.
 
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I wouldnt blame the cops for not even going into those neighborhoods anymore. Leave the animals to themselves.

If the FPD animals kept to themselves, none of this would've happened.
 
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I'm giving Holder props today. He came out with both fists swinging yesterday about the shooting of the cops.

He didn't mean what he said; it was a political statement. And conservatives apparently aren't buying it.
 
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So Holder should have them fired. What's he waiting for?

Rooting out the racism in Ferguson will cure what ails Ferguson. Nobody mentioned all of the ails of the world that I'm aware of.

You haven't read the report. First, it concludes with recommendations for the department to clean itself up. Second, Holder hasn't stated that doing so will fix all that ails Ferguson.
 
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Wow. You're not usually prone to posts that are filled with this much hysteria. I said that 7 emails dating back 4 years isn't indicative of much. It isn't. Where are the rest of these filthy emails? And who are these people who had good laughs when they got them? I'm sure that's in the report too. Are they being charged with something? Because if they aren't, and they aren't in the PD, who cares about them in this thread. I don't.

I did read the report. I didn't memorize it word for word. You pasted those emails here. There must be hundreds of them or more recent ones that you can share. Um, not memorizing emails sent by a police department that's about 2000 miles from where I live doesn't make me a racist.

See, again, read the report, and then comment. Or do we need to keep telling you what's in it. The seven e-mails included in the released report are stated as examples. We don't know how many there are. And the e-mails were sent, so that expands the problem. I didn't say anything about memorizing. I said minimizing. Which makes one appear a racist themselves!
 
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You haven't read the report. First, it concludes with recommendations for the department to clean itself up. Second, Holder hasn't stated that doing so will fix all that ails Ferguson.

Actually I did. All 105 pages, legal citations and all. I didn't commit it to memory. You did?

I saw pages and pages of recommendations (instructions) from the DOJ about what should be done now, everything from the changes in the force to changes in the court. Is the US government in the habit of making recommendations to "clean yourself up" and then just sitting back hoping it happens? Interesting. That's a large shift from the way they handle environmental issues, and bank malfeasance, and corporate problems, and so on. "Just clean yourself up and let us know when it's all fixed".

If the problem in Ferguson is the racism and cop issues and court issues, and those are fixed as per the numerous and very detailed recommendations in that 105 page report, then the problems should be fixed. Or is the DOJ just completely dishonest about what the problems are?
 
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See, again, read the report, and then comment. Or do we need to keep telling you what's in it. The seven e-mails included in the released report are stated as examples. We don't know how many there are. And the e-mails were sent, so that expands the problem. I didn't say anything about memorizing. I said minimizing. Which makes one appear a racist themselves!

I read it. All 105 pages. And commented.

No, you're right - we don't know how many emails there are. Or who sent them. Or what has happened in that force in the 3 years between that last email example and when Michael Brown was shot. But you know there are numerous other, current examples from current members of that force.....how exactly?

Not everyone else is a racist because we don't jump on bandwagons. This isn't a racist issue, it's a bad cop/bad court issue. Or is it?
 
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Careful. When I said that earlier today, it caused a poster to start a barrage of hyper hysterical posts.

7 emails in 7 years....and the most recent being 2011. Let's see some from 2015. Hell, 2014 would work. And if 7 emails in 7 years is enough to tell this country everything needed to condemn this entire force as being corrupt, racist people, I wonder what we would have seen in the many thousands of emails that a certain Secretary of State deleted and is holding captive in her server.

I'm sure there are bad seeds in the police force. I'm sure there are bad seeds in my town's police force. But the notion that the root cause of the crime in Ferguson is the PD, and they're sharing 7 emails as an example of that....and people are just bobbing their heads in agreement....damn mystifying.

It's unbelievable that you think that the JD's report has only seven racist e-mails in it. If you'd only read it, then you'd see the documented pattern of constitutional violations to the citizens of Ferguson, as well as documentation of the departments pattern of breaking the law, with the help of a compliant court, as well as officer ethics and conduct failures.
 
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I can't tell you. I don't live there, and I'm not the one declaring that the current police force is terrible and has to go. The local politicians there are all Democrats. Maybe they can say.

Such hyperbole. It's the racist elements and practices of the police force that need to go. Not the whole police force. Why would you be against purging the racist elements from the police force that have been harming Americans?
 
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