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Two Officers Are Shot Outside Ferguson Police Station[W:263]

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I guess everyone heard the "Acknowledgements 9 months ago would have kept that from happening" shout.

The lie is alive and well.
 
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The protests are based on a lie. you ramp up the emotions of the unstable among you based on a lie.

The protest are irrelevant to the shooting.

The shooter used the protest as a cover for anonymity. You have no clue as to the shooters deranged motive. You are just conjecturing.
 
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Well, we can all rest assured that there are no police officers in this country pissed off enough to seek revenge in some form or manner. Shooting cops will for certain bring Ferguson and all other cities to a state of utopia. "Cop Killers" typically so not fare well. I wonder what the arrest rate of blacks in America will be in the next few months versus the past three months. Should be one very interesting summer in America.
 
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The protest are irrelevant to the shooting.

The shooter used the protest as a cover for anonymity. You have no clue as to the shooters deranged motive. You are just conjecturing.



Are you saying if executive branch didn't play up the race card and the media drooling for a riot every night, the protests wouldn't quell down?
 
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Well, we can all rest assured that there are no police officers in this country pissed off enough to seek revenge in some form or manner. Shooting cops will for certain bring Ferguson and all other cities to a state of utopia. "Cop Killers" typically so not fare well. I wonder what the arrest rate of blacks in America will be in the next few months versus the past three months. Should be one very interesting summer in America.

Do you mean a even higher level of scrutiny than the already high level today?
 
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You to are conflating the demonstration with the attempted murder of a peace officer. The protesters did not shoot at the cops...a person or persons did.

The Ferguson Police are investigating and seeking a person or persons involved....not a protest.

edit: ...Not Holder not race baiters. Remember personal responsibility? The person on persons that shot the police officers is responsible.

People should be hekd respnsible for inciting violence, which what Holder did with his BS report
 
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The entire premise of the report was a lie. It claims to show that the Ferguson police department is racist but fails to do so. The claim that because more blacks are arrested or cited that the police are biased is false. Ferguson police are actually less likely to arrest blacks than most other police departments. The plain fact of the matter is that blacks commit more crimes of all types.

Is this a fail:

b. Direct Evidence of Racial Bias
Our investigation uncovered direct evidence of racial bias in the communications of
influential Ferguson decision makers. In email messages and during interviews, several court
and law enforcement personnel expressed discriminatory views and intolerance with regard to
race, religion, and national origin. The content of these communications is unequivocally
derogatory, dehumanizing, and demonstrative of impermissible bias.

We have discovered evidence of racial bias in emails sent by Ferguson officials, all of
whom are current employees, almost without exception through their official City of Ferguson
email accounts, and apparently sent during work hours. These email exchanges involved several
police and court supervisors, including FPD supervisors and commanders. The following emails
are illustrative:
 A November 2008 email stated that President Barack Obama would not be
President for very long because “what black man holds a steady job for four
years.”
 A March 2010 email mocked African Americans through speech and familial
stereotypes, using a story involving child support. One line from the email read:
“I be so glad that dis be my last child support payment! Month after month, year
after year, all dose payments!”
 An April 2011 email depicted President Barack Obama as a chimpanzee.
 A May 2011 email stated: “An African-American woman in New Orleans was
admitted into the hospital for a pregnancy termination. Two weeks later she
received a check for $5,000. She phoned the hospital to ask who it was from.
The hospital said, ‘Crimestoppers.’”
 A June 2011 email described a man seeking to obtain “welfare” for his dogs
because they are “mixed in color, unemployed, lazy, can’t speak English and have
no frigging clue who their Daddies are.”
 An October 2011 email included a photo of a bare-chested group of dancing women,
apparently in Africa, with the caption, “Michelle Obama’s High School Reunion.”
 A December 2011 email included jokes that are based on offensive stereotypes
about Muslims.


So the emails that were uncovered were forged or were the email address hacked? Or you don't them to be racial?



http://www.justice.gov/sites/defaul...5/03/04/ferguson_police_department_report.pdf
 
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Are you saying if executive branch didn't play up the race card and the media drooling for a riot every night, the protests wouldn't quell down?

That is a nonsensical question. Asking me if "I'm Saying" is not asking me if I agree with your ridiculous contention.

No I do not agree with your unprovable contention of A] "the Executive branch" plays the race card. B] or that media coverage spawns protests.
 
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People should be hekd respnsible for inciting violence, which what Holder did with his BS report

Insighting violence and the shoot at police officers are two separate acts. How can it be proven that anyone actions to "insight" led to this shooting of the police officers?

If it is shown that people were insighting violence against the police...the shooter is ultimately responsible for his actions.
 
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American I fully condem this violence but you just can't always shoot the messenger. I am not trying to attack you or be a race baiter but Holder did not pick up the guns and shoot. Do you really think either the racism in the report was purposely exaggerated or injected to incite violence?

He's a high govt official, who followed up a report exonerating Wilson (who btw had to leave his job and move out of town for no good reason except the race baiters who pronounced him guilty prior to the investigation), with comments that racism was pervasive throughout the Ferguson police department. He could have handled that much differently, but chose to make a public spectacle out of it for political reasons.
 
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I am really trying to be civil and calm, but there is no denying it. Assholes will never comprehend that it is lives that matter. So there, sue me.
 
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It is Holder job as Attorney General of the US to investigate racial discrimination accusations of police departments? How is his discussing the findings of The Department of Justice's investigation...race bating. That's ridiculous.


What evidence did he have that this was a racial incident?

Why did he inject race into the investigation of darren wilson?
 
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He's a high govt official, who followed up a report exonerating Wilson (who btw had to leave his job and move out of town for no good reason except the race baiters who pronounced him guilty prior to the investigation), with comments that racism was pervasive throughout the Ferguson police department. He could have handled that much differently, but chose to make a public spectacle out of it for political reasons.

This is a DOJ investigation not Holder's personal beliefs. They may be what he believes as well...but the report is what he was discussing.
 
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So is the report a lie? What was specifically said in the report that would incite violence - please quote.

I can't believe you're throwing out a strawman. It's not about the report, it's about Holder's public comments that irresponsible to say the least. Two cops are dead now.
 
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This is a DOJ investigation not Holder's personal beliefs. They may be what he believes as well...but the report is what he was discussing.

Holder poltiticized the whole thing, because that's what he does with everything.
 
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So is the report a lie? What was specifically said in the report that would incite violence - please quote.


Ain't no body got no time to be reading reports!


That's why soundbites are bad.
 
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American I fully condem this violence but you just can't always shoot the messenger. I am not trying to attack you or be a race baiter but Holder did not pick up the guns and shoot. Do you really think either the racism in the report was purposely exaggerated or injected to incite violence?

You are right, Holder did not, and I haven't hear Sharpton come right out and say 'lets get those crackers'. But it is they who can call for calm.
Instead of the usual 'gotcha' attitude, they could have insisted on being calm and to let our justice system, one with all its flaws still the best in the world, btw, take its course.
How can healing begin when it is too lucrative to pick sides, to stir the hornet's nest?
Yes, out the wrong, set an example, but realize that words, actions, and even gestures, count. That goes for Holder and Sharton esp, not just white police officers.
 
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I can't believe you're throwing out a strawman. It's not about the report, it's about Holder's public comments that irresponsible to say the least. Two cops are dead now.

They're not dead. Not that it changes anything you've said in this thread. I 100% agree with all of your posts.
 
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I can't believe you're throwing out a strawman. It's not about the report, it's about Holder's public comments that irresponsible to say the least. Two cops are dead now.

What comments of his were irresponsible?
 
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They're not dead. Not that it changes anything you've said in this thread. I 100% agree with all of your posts.

My bad.
 
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Insighting violence and the shoot at police officers are two separate acts. How can it be proven that anyone actions to "insight" led to this shooting of the police officers?

If it is shown that people were insighting violence against the police...the shooter is ultimately responsible for his actions.

Uhm.....both are illegal.

So what if they're " two separate acts "
 
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Is anyone surprised this happened? I'm not.

I see they're resigning in droves in Ferguson, from the Chief on down. Personally I can't understand why any white person would take a job as a cop there anymore. It's a poisonous atmosphere. Let them set up an all-black force and I'm sure their crime problems will simply disappear.

Holder. Unbelievable.
 
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