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Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

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matchlight said:
Really? How is it, then, that the U.S. still has such a large, powerful force in South Korea more than sixty years after the Korean War sputtered out? It has been reduced somewhat, but for decades it consisted of more than 35,000 troops, backed by a lot of armor, artillery, and air power. That seems like a "significant number of troops" to me--roughly twice as large a force as the one military planners suggested for Iraq.
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Not the same. This is a mistake you guys always make. You try to pretend apples are like tree frogs. Comparatively, SK is much more peaceful and requires less of us than Iraq ever would. The fact that we are not wanted in Iraq, and that the fighting will continue forever makes Iraq very different. Until you understand the difference, you'll continue to draw the wrong conclusions.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Not the same. This is a mistake you guys always make. You try to pretend apples are like tree frogs. Comparatively, SK is much more peaceful and requires less of us than Iraq ever would. The fact that we are not wanted in Iraq, and that the fighting will continue forever makes Iraq very different. Until you understand the difference, you'll continue to draw the wrong conclusions.
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who said were not not wanted in Iraq? Obama?...

its you that of course are not in line with what the people of Iraq wanted and fought for.. that OBama squandered for your Liberal vote..Obama is loser
 
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Travis007 said:
who said were not not wanted in Iraq? Obama?...

its you that of course are not in line with what the people of Iraq wanted and fought for.. that OBama squanded for your Liberal vote..Obama is loser
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Iraqi's.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Obama's what? Iraqis have stated they wanted us to withdraw.
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yea sure "iraqis"....they said "please leave after we voted and fought for our freedoms, so we can be raped and killed by ISIS so Obama can pander to his liberal sheep base at election time instead of getting a SOFA "


Pulleeezzee,,, you really think that liberal fantasy canard plays with people who are educated?...

your posts are media matter tripe...
 
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Boo Radley said:
Not the same. This is a mistake you guys always make. You try to pretend apples are like tree frogs. Comparatively, SK is much more peaceful and requires less of us than Iraq ever would. The fact that we are not wanted in Iraq, and that the fighting will continue forever makes Iraq very different. Until you understand the difference, you'll continue to draw the wrong conclusions.
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You guys? I speak for myself, and no one else. And I will let other posters here decide which of of understands what, and which of us is drawing the wrong conclusions.

How peaceful South Korea was had nothing to do with the decision to leave a substantial military force there after the Korean War. North Korea's powerful military has for sixty years posed a much greater threat to U.S. forces on the Korean peninsula that anything in Iraq could ever have posed to a residual U.S. force there. Iraq had been mostly pacified by the time Mr. Obama took office, as he himself affirmed. Whether most Iraqis wanted our forces were wanted in Iraq is irrelevant--we did not need their permission.

Obviously U.S. forces were not wanted in Germany after World War II, either, but no one was concerned with making the Germans happy. U.S. forces have not always been very welcome in South Korea, either--there has been quite a lot of agitation there against the U.S. presence over the years--but there too, the U.S. was rightly concerned with its own interests, and not in pleasing everyone in South Korea.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Obama's what? Iraqis have stated they wanted us to withdraw.
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yea sure.. they said "lets die for Obama.. its all about Obama, who cares if we live, whats important is Obamas promise to the Code Pinko Liberals to get out hsi vote soe Obama can have a second term and say "im bringing the troops home with or without a SOFA, and who cares that Obama anounced the date the troops would leave becausee that would help strengthen his bargaining position by saying we are leaving period.."

Let me guess thats what the Iraqis were concerned about.. Obama..right... let me guess 100% of the Iraqis said "lets die to make sure Obama is relected"...

GOD HELP US ALL
 
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Travis007 said:
yea sure "iraqis"....they said "please leave after we voted and fought for our freedoms, so we can be raped and killed by ISIS so Obama can pander to his liberal sheep base at election time instead of getting a SOFA "


Pulleeezzee,,, you really think that liberal fantasy canard plays with people who are educated?...

your posts are media matter tripe...
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You're reading the propaganda and not the reality. We were never welcome and many who voted thought they were voting for us to leave.
 
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Boo Radley said:
You're reading the propaganda and not the reality. We were never welcome and many who voted thought they were voting for us to leave.
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OH NO...... I am not.. but nice try.....

what are you talking about and do you think people believe you?...

I leave propaganda to Obama sheep...
 
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matchlight said:
You guys? I speak for myself, and no one else. And I will let other posters here decide which of of understands what, and which of us is drawing the wrong conclusions.

How peaceful South Korea was had nothing to do with the decision to leave a substantial military force there after the Korean War. North Korea's powerful military has for sixty years posed a much greater threat to U.S. forces on the Korean peninsula that anything in Iraq could ever have posed to a residual U.S. force there. Iraq had been mostly pacified by the time Mr. Obama took office, as he himself affirmed. Whether most Iraqis wanted our forces were wanted in Iraq is irrelevant--we did not need their permission.

Obviously U.S. forces were not wanted in Germany after World War II, either, but no one was concerned with making the Germans happy. U.S. forces have not always been very welcome in South Korea, either--there has been quite a lot of agitation there against the U.S. presence over the years--but there too, the U.S. was rightly concerned with its own interests, and not in pleasing everyone in South Korea.
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No, how peaceful they are has a lot to do with it. Citizen's don't care about staying where there is no real fighting. Iraq is different. From day one, we've been occupiers who were unwelcome and have seen killing throughout or time there. It has never stopped. This difference is significant.

And Germany is still just another apple and not the tree frog Iraq was. There history was different. The circumstances of that war was different. Germany was the aggressor and not us. So once again you, like those who share your mistaken view, fail to compare like experiences.
 
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Travis007 said:
yea sure.. they said "lets die for Obama.. its all about Obama, who cares if we live, whats important is Obamas promise to the Code Pinko Liberals to get out hsi vote soe Obama can have a second term and say "im bringing the troops home with or without a SOFA, and who cares that Obama anounced the date the troops would leave becausee that would help strengthen his bargaining position by saying we are leaving period.."

Let me guess thats what the Iraqis were concerned about.. Obama..right... let me guess 100% of the Iraqis said "lets die to make sure Obama is relected"...

GOD HELP US ALL
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I have no idea how to respond to this odd little post that has nothing to do with anything argued or reality for that matter. :beam::damn:screwy
 
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Boo Radley said:
I have no idea how to respond to this odd little post that has nothing to do with anything argued or reality for that matter. :beam::damn:screwy
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ther reality of my words a bit too much?... its in real easy to understand humanistic words..

Your hero Obama is a disaster to humanity... its all about Obama..

You said "the iraqis ( in absolutes) wanted the US to leave without a SOFA...when they DID NOT..
 
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Boo Radley said:
No, how peaceful they are has a lot to do with it. Citizen's don't care about staying where there is no real fighting. Iraq is different. From day one, we've been occupiers who were unwelcome and have seen killing throughout or time there. It has never stopped. This difference is significant.

And Germany is still just another apple and not the tree frog Iraq was. There history was different. The circumstances of that war was different. Germany was the aggressor and not us. So once again you, like those who share your mistaken view, fail to compare like experiences.
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Not one word even makes sense in the above post..
 
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Travis007 said:
OH NO...... I am not.. but nice try.....

what are you talking about and do you think people believe you?...

I leave propaganda to Obama sheep...
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Yes, yes you are.

The troops aren't being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They're leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There

"The last American soldier will leave Iraq" as agreed, he said, speaking at his office in a leafy section of Baghdad's protected Green Zone. "This agreement is not subject to extension, not subject to alteration. It is sealed."

Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.

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But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it.

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com

Don't facts sway you. Stand firm with the propaganda if it suits you.
 
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Boo Radley said:
Yes, yes you are.

The troops aren't being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They're leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There

"The last American soldier will leave Iraq" as agreed, he said, speaking at his office in a leafy section of Baghdad's protected Green Zone. "This agreement is not subject to extension, not subject to alteration. It is sealed."

Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.

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But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it.

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com

Don't facts sway you. Stand firm with the propaganda if it suits you.
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amazing...you just posted pure liberal drool propaganda yellow journalism....

adn THE WSJ article points to the GWBS SOFA that had to be part of any troop reduction...THAT OBAMA DID NOT GET...

you do know that the subject here is..right?
 
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Travis007 said:
amazing...you just posted pure liberal drool propaganda yellow journalism....

adn THE WSJ article points to the GWBS SOFA that had to be part of any troop reduction...THAT OBAMA DID NOT GET...

you do know that the subject here is..right?
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Yeah, that liberal Wallstreet Journal. :roll:

Any excuse to deny reality will do I guess.
 
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iliveonramen said:
We'll see...what if an agreement is reached that is widely supported...they will try to stop the agreement just because? Go back to sanctions and possible military strikes?
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I dont see any agreement allowing Iran nukes as a viable out come to that many....
 
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Boo Radley said:
Yes, yes you are.

The troops aren't being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They're leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There

"The last American soldier will leave Iraq" as agreed, he said, speaking at his office in a leafy section of Baghdad's protected Green Zone. "This agreement is not subject to extension, not subject to alteration. It is sealed."

Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.

(snip)

But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it.

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com

Don't facts sway you. Stand firm with the propaganda if it suits you.
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YOU LIED... those quotes are NOT IN THE WSJ artricle....

wow..a new low ..you just made it up
 
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Boo Radley said:
Yes, yes you are.

The troops aren't being withdrawn because the U.S. wants them out. They're leaving because the Iraqi government refused to let them stay.

U.S. Troops Are Leaving Because Iraq Doesn't Want Them There

"The last American soldier will leave Iraq" as agreed, he said, speaking at his office in a leafy section of Baghdad's protected Green Zone. "This agreement is not subject to extension, not subject to alteration. It is sealed."

Iraqi Prime Minister Says U.S. Forces Must Leave On Time - WSJ

In one of his final acts in office, President Bush in December of 2008 had signed a Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) with the Iraqi government that set the clock ticking on ending the war he’d launched in March of 2003. The SOFA provided a legal basis for the presence of U.S. forces in Iraq after the United Nations Security Council mandate for the occupation mission expired at the end of 2008. But it required that all U.S. forces be gone from Iraq by January 1, 2012, unless the Iraqi government was willing to negotiate a new agreement that would extend their mandate.

(snip)

But ending the U.S. troop presence in Iraq was an overwhelmingly popular demand among Iraqis, and Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki appears to have been unwilling to take the political risk of extending it.

Iraq’s Government, Not Obama, Called Time on the U.S. Troop Presence | TIME.com

Don't facts sway you. Stand firm with the propaganda if it suits you.
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sao you just lied and made up words and then tried to just say they were int eh WSJ article?????


we have a new all time low..Liberals unhinged
 
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Boo Radley said:
Yeah, that liberal Wallstreet Journal. :roll:

Any excuse to deny reality will do I guess.
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too bad its not in the WSJ article... you just lied and cut and pasted your own words hoping nobody would read.. bad news..I read it...

The WSJ article proves that Obama is a louse and loser..
 
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Boo Radley said:
You're reading the propaganda and not the reality. We were never welcome and many who voted thought they were voting for us to leave.
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Defense Secretary Leon Panetta announced Friday that Iraq has already requested the U.S. remain beyond 2011 and the Pentagon is in the process of negotiating that agreement.

Panetta told Stars and Stripes, "My view is that they finally did say, 'Yes.'"

Now that the Pentagon has unanimous consent from Iraq's leaders, it will move forward on establishing what type of forces will remain and what their function will be.

Panetta made clear, however, that the U.S. will continue its commitment to withdrawing all combat troops from the country by the established deadline.


It's Official: Iraq Wants The U.S. To Stay - Business Insider

Read more: It's Official: Iraq Wants The U.S. To Stay - Business Insider
 
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