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Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership [W:251]

Re: Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership

Piss off Obama, seriously...
 
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Fearandloathing said:
Propaganda. And bull****. Winning an election with less than 5% plurality is NOT winning anyone's "trust". It is proof of one thing...his star making image machinery was better financed than the other guy. Period. To extend that to the claim of political sainthood is misleading in the extreme. He lost their "trust" in 2010 when he surrendered his clear majority and then got re-elected by one of the thinnest margins on a lie...."If you lie your plan, you can keep your plan...."

He has since lost all control in congress, his "enemies" and has a legacy already..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1Sky7uOO-o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc72edn6lI0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqKnVr3I9q8

Claiming Obama has the trust of the American people is like saying Charlie Manson is kind to animals.....


If FDR, Kennedy, Johnson were alive today they would be armed...
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1. Since when did more than 50% NOT represent "Most" ?!

2. Obama is the first president since 1956 and the first Democrat since 1944 to win the majority of the popular vote TWICE.

Obama's 3 Million Vote, Electoral College Landslide, Majority of States Mandate | The Nation

3. You ostensibly live in the United States and should therefore know that we elect presidents via an Electoral College System:
While Obama did indeed win the majority of the popular vote in BOTH presidential elections he inflicted an even greater thrashing upon his inept and unqualified Republican challengers in the electoral college:

Needed to win : 270 Electoral College Votes

2008: Obama 365 to McCain: 173

2012: Obama 303 to Romney 235

The technical political science term for these results is, by any measure, : "ASS WUPPIN" ! "

Under more normal circumstance when the GOP wasn't being completely controlled by anti-government extremists and racists , the losing party would gracefully defer to the obvious will of the people.....it used to be called American Democracy before the Tea Party Confederates blew up the GOP and now repeatedly attempt to undermine the President AND the nation's best interests.
 
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ProgressivPower said:
1. Since when did more than 50% NOT represent "Most" ?!

2. Obama is the first president since 1956 and the first Democrat since 1944 to win the majority of the popular vote TWICE.

Obama's 3 Million Vote, Electoral College Landslide, Majority of States Mandate | The Nation

3. You ostensibly live in the United States and should therefore know that we elect presidents via an Electoral College System:
While Obama did indeed win the majority of the popular vote in BOTH presidential elections he inflicted an even greater thrashing upon his inept and unqualified Republican challengers in the electoral college:

Needed to win : 270 Electoral College Votes

2008: Obama 365 to McCain: 173

2012: Obama 303 to Romney 235

The technical political science term for these results is, by any measure, : "ASS WUPPIN" ! "

Under more normal circumstance when the GOP wasn't being completely controlled by anti-government extremists and racists , the losing party would gracefully defer to the obvious will of the people.....it used to be called American Democracy before the Tea Party Confederates blew up the GOP and now repeatedly attempt to undermine the President AND the nation's best interests.
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Since forever ?

50 plus one is "a bare majority".
 
ProgressivPower said:
While I'm fully aware that conservatives struggle with math, when exactly did more than 50% NOT equal "most" ?!

Obama also happens to be the first president since 1956 to win the popular vote TWICE.

I'm also aware that many conservatives are "book averse" so you can look it up at this link:

Final Tally Shows Obama First Since

'nuff said.
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Hey, we're ( Conservatives ) aren't the one's who fell for all the BS Hope and change nonsense that got Obama elected.

We didn't equate empty platitudes and bumper sticker slogans to Presidential qualifications.

And we know when we're being lied to, which is allot more than I can say for Democrat supporters.
 
ProgressivPower said:
1. Since when did more than 50% NOT represent "Most" ?!

2. Obama is the first president since 1956 and the first Democrat since 1944 to win the majority of the popular vote TWICE.

Obama's 3 Million Vote, Electoral College Landslide, Majority of States Mandate | The Nation

3. You ostensibly live in the United States and should therefore know that we elect presidents via an Electoral College System:
While Obama did indeed win the majority of the popular vote in BOTH presidential elections he inflicted an even greater thrashing upon his inept and unqualified Republican challengers in the electoral college:

Needed to win : 270 Electoral College Votes

2008: Obama 365 to McCain: 173

2012: Obama 303 to Romney 235

The technical political science term for these results is, by any measure, : "ASS WUPPIN" ! "

Under more normal circumstance when the GOP wasn't being completely controlled by anti-government extremists and racists , the losing party would gracefully defer to the obvious will of the people.....it used to be called American Democracy before the Tea Party Confederates blew up the GOP and now repeatedly attempt to undermine the President AND the nation's best interests.
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The " ASS WUPPIN " was what the Republicans did to the Democrats in 2010 and 2014.

Can you believe the Democrats thought they were going to turn Texas Blue ?? Lol !!

They ran Wendy Davis and we picked up MORE GOP seats.
 
Fenton said:
The " ASS WUPPIN " was what the Republicans did to the Democrats in 2010 and 2014.

Can you believe the Democrats thought they were going to turn Texas Blue ?? Lol !!

They ran Wendy Davis and we picked up MORE GOP seats.
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Can you believe that only 1/3rd of eligible voters voted in 2014.......with a big assist from GOP voter suppression efforts in Red States....yes sir the GOP is alive and well - in non presidential election years and when they block the vote......the final sands of the demographic hour glass are draining fast for the GOP.....soon to be a permanent minority party - never again to attain the white house.
 
Fenton said:
Hey, we're ( Conservatives ) aren't the one's who fell for all the BS Hope and change nonsense that got Obama elected.

We didn't equate empty platitudes and bumper sticker slogans to Presidential qualifications.

And we know when we're being lied to, which is allot more than I can say for Democrat supporters.
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If you cons are so good at detecting lies maybe you could have given the rest of us a "Heads Up" about "weapons of mass destruction" and lying the nation into two wars......oh, wait. :0
 
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ProgressivPower said:
1. Since when did more than 50% NOT represent "Most" ?!

2. Obama is the first president since 1956 and the first Democrat since 1944 to win the majority of the popular vote TWICE.

Obama's 3 Million Vote, Electoral College Landslide, Majority of States Mandate | The Nation

3. You ostensibly live in the United States and should therefore know that we elect presidents via an Electoral College System:
While Obama did indeed win the majority of the popular vote in BOTH presidential elections he inflicted an even greater thrashing upon his inept and unqualified Republican challengers in the electoral college:

Needed to win : 270 Electoral College Votes

2008: Obama 365 to McCain: 173

2012: Obama 303 to Romney 235

The technical political science term for these results is, by any measure, : "ASS WUPPIN" ! "

Under more normal circumstance when the GOP wasn't being completely controlled by anti-government extremists and racists , the losing party would gracefully defer to the obvious will of the people.....it used to be called American Democracy before the Tea Party Confederates blew up the GOP and now repeatedly attempt to undermine the President AND the nation's best interests.
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Oh...so now you are going to trot out the Electoral College results. The fact is, those results have nothing to do with your asinine statement about how "most" law-abiding Americans feel about Obama.
 
ProgressivPower said:
Can you believe that only 1/3rd of eligible voters voted in 2014.......with a big assist from GOP voter suppression efforts in Red States....yes sir the GOP is alive and well - in non presidential election years and when they block the vote......the final sands of the demographic hour glass are draining fast for the GOP.....soon to be a permanent minority party - never again to attain the white house.
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LOL!!

Still trying to find things to whine about, eh?


btw, you sound suspiciously like James D. Hill.
 
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Kobie said:
And the conservative victimization begins. Please point to where I (an "Obama acolyte," in your phenomenally stupid words) said a thing about race.

Don't bother responding to me unless you have something to say that isn't your usual "DURRR OBAMA FANBOY" horse****.
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"Methinks thou dost protest too much" - William Shakespeare
 
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gdgyva said:
i assume you mean meir dagan when you speak of mossad?

and his comments regarding netanyahu.........

since he has been out of mossad since 2010, and he is trying to position himself into a new leadership in Israel, maybe his comments can be taken with a grain of salt

but go ahead and throw all your eggs into the same basket
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By that standard, we can't trust any American politician positioning themselves for any power role either, hey..............!!!!!!!!!
 
ProgressivPower said:
If you cons are so good at detecting lies maybe you could have given the rest of us a "Heads Up" about "weapons of mass destruction" and lying the nation into two wars......oh, wait. :0
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LOL !! :lamo

You Progressives are SO easily manipulated. What ? You actually believed " Bush Lied " ??? Thats you're fault for being so easy to lie to, not ours.

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998


"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002


"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Lol !!
 
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CanadaJohn said:
"Methinks thou dost protest too much" - William Shakespeare
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God forbid I defend myself from lies.
 
ProgressivPower said:
Can you believe that only 1/3rd of eligible voters voted in 2014.......with a big assist from GOP voter suppression efforts in Red States....yes sir the GOP is alive and well - in non presidential election years and when they block the vote......the final sands of the demographic hour glass are draining fast for the GOP.....soon to be a permanent minority party - never again to attain the white house.
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Yea I can believe Obama and his disastrous policies convinced Millions of voters to stay home. And how did the GOP " block the vote " again ?
 
Fenton said:
Yea I can believe Obama and his disastrous policies convinced Millions of voters to stay home. And how did the GOP " block the vote " again ?
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Obama won over the left with "If you like your food stamps, you can keep your food stamps". He knows his constituency.
 
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Mycroft said:
Oh...so now you are going to trot out the Electoral College results. The fact is, those results have nothing to do with your asinine statement about how "most" law-abiding Americans feel about Obama.
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So I debunk the popular vote AND the electoral vote rubbish with......pardon the "F" word I know it's not too popular in right wing circles but......FACTS! LOL

Methinks you're now discovering the truth in President John Adams statement: " Facts are stubborn things."
 
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ProgressivPower said:
So I debunk the popular vote AND the electoral vote rubbish with......pardon the "F" word I know it's not too popular in right wing circles but......FACTS! LOL

Methinks you're now discovering the truth in President John Adams statement: " Facts are stubborn things."
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Aren't you the Author of the Thread " The Right should just give up on the Hillary Bashing " thread ??
 
CanadaJohn said:
Obama Blasts Republicans Over Letter to Iranian Leadership - Bloomberg Politics

President Obama: "It's somewhat ironic seeing some members of Congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in Iran..... It's an unlikely coalition."

Interesting. Seems to me, the President distorts the issue for political gain and is subtly trying to claim that Republicans are fraternizing with the enemy or perhaps even treasonous. And yet no reaction or condemnation from Democrats or their friends in the media. Rudy Guilliani states that he believes that President Obama doesn't love his country and all hell breaks lose, the full force of the Democrat party and their media puppets attacking with all force. But when the shoe is on the other foot, again the attack is on the Republican party and the Democrat media protects their saviour and master.

Interesting. Also, isn't President Obama trying to 'make common cause with the hardliners in Iran" through the deal negotiations he's involved in?
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These Senators were wrong and have harmed the standing and trustworthiness of any US deal, by any US President.
Short sighted thinking.
Senator Cotton is a ****ing wackjob - And those that support this are doing so along partisan lines.
There are a lot of people, including some Republicans, who by now have concluded that Tom Cotton’s Iran gambit was a truly terrible idea. I’d hazard a guess that at least some of the 46 other Republican senators who signed on to Cotton’s letter to the government of Iran essentially trying to sabotage negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program didn’t think through all the ramifications, and now wish they had. The move has been lambasted not only by the White House and liberals like me, but by centrist analysts, foreign policy experts who say that it helps Iranian hardliners, and even some conservatives who worry that, as Greg observed yesterday, it makes it easier for hawkish Democrats to side with President Obama on the underlying issue.

While in the House in 2013, Cotton introduced an amendment to prosecute the relatives of those who violated sanctions on Iran, saying that his proposed penalties of up to 20 years in prison would “include a spouse and any relative to the third degree,” including “parents, children, aunts, uncles, nephews, nieces, grandparents, great grandparents, grandkids, great grandkids.” Forget about the fact that the Constitution expressly prohibits “corruption of blood” penalties — just consider that Cotton wanted to take someone who had violated sanctions and imprison their grandchildren. Needless to say, this deranged piece of legislation was too much even for Republicans to stomach, and it went nowhere.
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In wake of GOP letter to Iran, battle erupts over blame for dysfunction - The Washington Post
“If you are a country in the Middle East or Asia relying on Washington, this raises questions about America’s predictability,” said Richard Haass, who is president of the Council on Foreign Relations and served in the George W. Bush and George H.W. Bush administrations. “I hear this all the time. I just know it makes others around the world more uncomfortable and contributes to a more dangerous and disorderly world.”

Many in the GOP foreign policy establishment, meanwhile, expressed disappointment over the increasingly partisan nature of U.S. foreign policy. Former senator Richard G. Lugar (R-Ind.), who previously served as chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, described Cotton’s letter as “an unfortunate venture” and said he would have advised the freshman senator and Army veteran not to send it.
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A President who persistently antagonizes Congress ends up with a Congress that is antagonistic.
 
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Moot said:
The thing that makes that letter so shameful is that Iran had to school those 47 idiot senators on their own Constitution and international law. I'll bet Tehran had a good laugh over that.....
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On the contrary, they are correct. Iranians have a hard time understanding that other executives are not Supreme Leaders, but in this country, the Constitution is the Supreme Law of the Land, not Executive Branch writ.


Really, if they are wise (deeply questionable, I know), the administration will clue in that Republican have just strengthened their negotiating position.

Mind you, that would require that they see Diplomacy as a means to an end, rather than an end in and of itself....
 
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Jack Hays said:
A President who persistently antagonizes Congress ends up with a Congress that is antagonistic.
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It was not a one way street.
 
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JANFU said:
It was not a one way street.
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He's the President. The higher office always carries the greater obligation for leadership and a good example.
 
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