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Boko Haram swears formal allegiance to ISIS

Kobie said:
Of course we'd all like to see it stopped.

The "jobs" line was horribly and dishonestly ripped out of context by the conservative media bull**** machine.
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Okay, disregard the jobs statement. What is he doing to end this scummy group of evil misfits from doing anything further? And now Boko Haram has joined in? The group that kidnapped 300 young schoolgirls that nobody seemed to be able to find? WTH? :bs:
 
Kobie said:
So in other words, the answer is yes, you wish to commit to a ground war in the Middle East.
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bombing empty buildings is working?

Ground troops are already committed, a Canadian soldier has already dies from "friendly fire"...who the **** are you trying to kid? There are a few thousand troops on the ground in Afghanistan still and you are losing that one.

How about a consistent policy? How about being honest with Americans, and at least, one of you apologists once SHOW where the US has made one INCH of progress under Obama.

In closing, if you want to have a discussion and not troll with useless bull****, explain where Obama has in any of the seven countries he is bombing and killing he has made progress at all.

and explain how it is he had one war, had "ended" another and now there are seven America is involved in and four OTHER countries ISIS has now gained a stronghold.

If that is how you figure a war on terror should be fought, and I will ask the Canadian Women's hockey team to pinch hit for you.
 
polgara said:
Okay, disregard the jobs statement. What is he doing to end this scummy group of evil misfits from doing anything further? And now Boko Haram has joined in? The group that kidnapped 300 young schoolgirls that nobody seemed to be able to find? WTH? :bs:
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At some point, the people who live in these areas of the world are going to need to step up more than they already have.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Thank you.

I can't get Fox here and had never heard of her. she does make sense...

and btw, Kerry is more and more Lurch-ish every day. I fully expect Pugsie to come up behind him with an axe any time he's peaking.

I am so mollified that as the United States is on Yellow alert for terrorists and has been for 15 years, that we are safer than we were when Reagan bombed Libya......

These guys are nuts, just ****ing whacko nuts, off the reservation and drinking gasoline nuts...
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The point of posting the video was to show the difference between Kerry's take and Clapper's take. They are complete opposites. But is that any different than having Kerry pledging support to Nigeria with their fight against Boko Haram aka ISIS, the president making eloquent speeches saying the same, and even had Michelle in on the act with her hashtag "Bring back our girls" but then have the president of Nigeria, heads of state claim this administration has not helped with much of anything on all fronts. Israel answers their request for helicopters and this administration stopped it. Now Boko Haram is out of control and no doubt being funded by ISIS.

I bet you under all the suits in this administration, you will find a lot of tie dyed tee shirts with peace symbols. We have 611 more days of this crap.
 
Fearandloathing said:
Show progress, you missed that and a bunch of other really, really important stuff.
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You mean like in Kobani, where US airstrikes helped Kurdish and rebel forces not only beat back a months-long siege but also retake almost everything that was lost in the canton? Or in Iraq, where airstrikes have similarly allowed allied forces to retake Sinjar and to prepare for offensives on Tikrit and Mosul? This is precisely the best thing that we can do short of a ground war (which I don't necessarily think should be off the table).
 
I think it's scandalous that the United States continues to commit about 30,000! servicemen--many of them ground troops-- in South Korea. And this American warmongering has been going on for more than sixty years now! What if fighting ever broke out there--the U.S. would be involved in a ground war in Asia!

Just imagine that the bloodthirsty right-wingers wanted to a similar force, even if only about half this size, in Iraq! That's what the military-industrial complex and big oil wanted too, and they probably would have done it, if President Obama hadn't saved the day. This horrible country has got to stop picking fights all over the globe. We have to realize that these "Moozelims" that all those Amurrican yahoos who cling to their guns and Bibles love to demonize are folks, just like us. I'm sure that if we only tried to be kinder and more understanding toward them, we would live together in peace. We are creating the extremists--they are only acting out their anger and frustration with U.S. interference in their affairs.
 
Fearandloathing said:
bombing empty buildings is working?

Ground troops are already committed, a Canadian soldier has already dies from "friendly fire"...who the **** are you trying to kid? There are a few thousand troops on the ground in Afghanistan still and you are losing that one.

How about a consistent policy? How about being honest with Americans, and at least, one of you apologists once SHOW where the US has made one INCH of progress under Obama.

In closing, if you want to have a discussion and not troll with useless bull****, explain where Obama has in any of the seven countries he is bombing and killing he has made progress at all.

and explain how it is he had one war, had "ended" another and now there are seven America is involved in and four OTHER countries ISIS has now gained a stronghold.

If that is how you figure a war on terror should be fought, and I will ask the Canadian Women's hockey team to pinch hit for you.
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We're done. I'm sick of your attitude.
 
Kobie said:
At some point, the people who live in these areas of the world are going to need to step up more than they already have.
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I agree, but how are they to do that - they're victims being terrorized, and they don't have the arms we're apparently giving to their bragging laughing oppressors, Kobie! What a crock!
 
MadLib said:
You mean like in Kobani, where US airstrikes helped Kurdish and rebel forces not only beat back a months-long siege but also retake almost everything that was lost in the canton? Or in Iraq, where airstrikes have similarly allowed allied forces to retake Sinjar and to prepare for offensives on Tikrit and Mosul? This is precisely the best thing that we can do short of a ground war (which I don't necessarily think should be off the table).
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The information I have suggests that your evaluation of U.S. progress against these people is overly sanguine.
 
matchlight said:
I think it's scandalous that the United States continues to commit about 30,000! servicemen--many of them ground troops-- in South Korea. And this American warmongering has been going on for more than sixty years now! What if fighting ever broke out there--the U.S. would be involved in a ground war in Asia!

Just imagine that the bloodthirsty right-wingers wanted to a similar force, even if only about half this size, in Iraq! That's what the military-industrial complex and big oil wanted too, and they probably would have done it, if President Obama hadn't saved the day. This horrible country has got to stop picking fights all over the globe. We have to realize that these "Moozelims" that all those Amurrican yahoos who cling to their guns and Bibles love to demonize are folks, just like us. I'm sure that if we only tried to be kinder and more understanding toward them, we would live together in peace. We are creating the extremists--they are only acting out their anger and frustration with U.S. interference in their affairs.
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Do you deal in anything other than moronic strawmen?
 
vesper said:
The point of posting the video was to show the difference between Kerry's take and Clapper's take. They are complete opposites. But is that any different than having Kerry pledging support to Nigeria with their fight against Boko Haram aka ISIS, the president making eloquent speeches saying the same, and even had Michelle in on the act with her hashtag "Bring back our girls" but then have the president of Nigeria, heads of state claim this administration has not helped with much of anything on all fronts. Israel answers their request for helicopters and this administration stopped it. Now Boko Haram is out of control and no doubt being funded by ISIS.

I bet you under all the suits in this administration, you will find a lot of tie dyed tee shirts with peace symbols. We have 611 more days of this crap.
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I suspect not. The tie dye crowd at least knew it was stoned....

I see incompetence and panic. For the Secretary of State to make that claim is audaciously stupid.....and, as we see, is immediately brought down from within the very same administration. We are seeing more and more of this. It comes from them having decided on an agenda, without knowing what is what, and then proceeding to lie and back fill when it is seen to be failing, utterly failing.

As we speak, Obama himself, his people and his supporters are tripping over each other to try to find an answer/excuse over Hillary's Emailgate, contradicting one another and making fools of themselves.

What I admire about Judge Jeannie is her bare knuckled approach. Her producers put together a very quick medley of clips which her delivery compliments...you get a lot more than just the script.

It's good stuff
 
MadLib said:
You mean like in Kobani, where US airstrikes helped Kurdish and rebel forces not only beat back a months-long siege but also retake almost everything that was lost in the canton? Or in Iraq, where airstrikes have similarly allowed allied forces to retake Sinjar and to prepare for offensives on Tikrit and Mosul? This is precisely the best thing that we can do short of a ground war (which I don't necessarily think should be off the table).
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kobani?

Wow, there's a win.

No, like in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypy, Kurdish Turkey [where ISIS is spreading] and the rest of the spreading terror. Because air strikes worked in one, isolated incident, you are prepared to lose seven other wars?

Pay attention. You are losing.
 
polgara said:
I agree, but how are they to do that - they're victims being terrorized, and they don't have the arms we're apparently giving to their bragging laughing oppressors, Kobie! What a crock!
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Have you considered the possibility that millions of these people are to some degree sympathetic to the jihadists? Such a small group could not possibly take control of so much area so quickly, and control so many people--Mosul has a couple million people--without a lot of winking and nodding, or even outright collaboration.
 
matchlight said:
The information I have suggests that your evaluation of U.S. progress against these people is overly sanguine.
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What information do you have? I'm getting my facts primarily from Reddit and Wiki, and only occasionally mainstream Western media sources.

The fact of the matter is that airstrikes are incredibly effective against ISIS. Keep in mind that they're fighting a conventional war at this point, not an insurgency. They rely on troop formations, convoys, etc. just like any traditional state. Our strategy is making this spectacularly difficult for them, since any sizable gathering of troops and/or vehicles is a prime target for air power. As long as ISIS is a group that utilizes territorial control, bombing them will continue to work.
 
matchlight said:
Have you considered the possibility that millions of these people are to some degree sympathetic to the jihadists? Such a small group could not possibly take control of so much area so quickly, and control so many people--Mosul has a couple million people--without a lot of winking and nodding, or even outright collaboration.
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Greetings, matchlight. :2wave:

So this religious war could go on for another 1300 years? Why are we even involved then? New fanatics are probably being born as we speak... :shock:
 
Fearandloathing said:
kobani?

Wow, there's a win.

No, like in Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypy, Kurdish Turkey [where ISIS is spreading] and the rest of the spreading terror. Because air strikes worked in one, isolated incident, you are prepared to lose seven other wars?

Pay attention. You are losing.
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Meaningless platitudes. We're engaging in a strategy that, while imperfect, is working against ISIS. Unless you have tangible ideas that would be more effective, complaining is useless, since this is an incredibly difficult and complex situation that the US is involved in.
 
MadLib said:
Meaningless platitudes. We're engaging in a strategy that, while imperfect, is working against ISIS. Unless you have tangible ideas that would be more effective, complaining is useless, since this is an incredibly difficult and complex situation that the US is involved in.
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Dealing with complexity is not their strong suit. If it can't be distilled into a one-sentence attack on Obama, they want nothing to do with it.
 
Kobie said:
Dealing with complexity is not their strong suit. If it can't be distilled into a one-sentence attack on Obama, they want nothing to do with it.
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And this coming from one.....that never has any links and always comes with a one liner then just uses a Rolling eyes smiley. But you know something about complexity. Now that is just hilarious. :lamo
 
GPS_Flex said:
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Needless to say, this isn't a very positive development for Democrats considering how far they have their heads up their politically correct asses. If you can't see how Islam is the common thread that links these terrorists together, you're going to allow millions more to be killed or enslaved and allow them to attack us here, in our cities.
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The left is soft on terror. Its just a fact.

Perhaps Obama will tweet something about this... #bring back Boko jobs
 
Perhaps the most effective way to counter this would be for POTUS to formally engage the US Armed Forces in a crusade across Africa. The difficult part of the concept would be defining the success of the effort.
 
US Conservative said:
The left is soft on terror. Its just a fact.

Perhaps Obama will tweet something about this... #bring back Boko jobs
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Nah, instead BO and MO started a Global Initiative.....Let girls learn. Says there is 62 million of them without schooling. Although they never did find the 300 girls Boko kidnapped.

So that might be 62 million plus 300 now. You know how accurate BO is with numbers, Right? :lol:
 
MMC said:
And this coming from one.....that never has any links and always comes with a one liner then just uses a Rolling eyes smiley. But you know something about complexity. Now that is just hilarious. :lamo
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I "never have any links"? Blatant lie, MMC. Color me unsurprised.
 
Kobie said:
I "never have any links"? Blatant lie, MMC. Color me unsurprised.
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Oooh Kobie wants to go technical over his posts. Okay.....90% of the time. How you lookin now?
 
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