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Obama and Others at Selma

I can't believe that someone hasn't posted about this yet. Or maybe there isn't a great big African American presence on this forum. Either way, it's a pretty big media story.

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Didn't our president say he was born because of Selma or something equally stupid? I like how the article calls him "America's first black president" too. Did I miss a news story where they discovered that his mother was not white, but really black?
 
Didn't our president say he was born because of Selma or something equally stupid? I like how the article calls him "America's first black president" too. Did I miss a news story where they discovered that his mother was not white, but really black?

He is the first Black president. Don't be obtuse.

That said, this whole "woe is the Black man in the US" thing is getting stale. If Blacks really gave a ****, they would stop killing each other.
 
Amazing story and a great anniversary. I'm not American but I would be proud of such of of event, its what makes you great and even more amazing that a black president can enjoy it. Kudos America.
 
He is the first Black president. Don't be obtuse.

That said, this whole "woe is the Black man in the US" thing is getting stale. If Blacks really gave a ****, they would stop killing each other.

Let me rephrase that last part "They'd be more pissed at black on black crime then throwing a fit when a thug get's shot for attacking a cop." That's the part that boggles my mind. "Hey 500 blacks were killed in three cities by other blacks, but this kid... he robbed a place and then punched a cop and got shot, let's protest THAT...

Seriously.
 
He is the first Black president. Don't be obtuse.

That said, this whole "woe is the Black man in the US" thing is getting stale. If Blacks really gave a ****, they would stop killing each other.

He is as white as he is black. You could say he is the first president that is half black.
 
He is as white as he is black. You could say he is the first president that is half black.

Perhaps you need glasses
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Why would I need glasses, what would that do about Obama being half white and half black?
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Every Black person with family history here in the US has at one point or another in the past had an ancestor who was 50-50, most probably have a half-dozen. THey are still all called Black.
 
He is as white as he is black. You could say he is the first president that is half black.
I am sorry, he is black. Do you know how you can tell? If you saw him and didn't know who his parents are, you would describe him as being black.
 
Maybe most of us are just past racism and tired fo the BS. WE'll never forget, but it doesn't define us.

Really?

Are you that narrow minded that you can't comprehend the significance of this day in history and how that walk across the Edmund Pettis Bridge changed things for today?

I happened to be there today, in Selma, AL, with my wife and two of our children, both daughters, and I can tell you it was a very moving experience not just for me but for my family as well.

Some of you may know that mine is a blended family, a mixture of Black and White. As my wife and I and our two daughters (her biological White child and our bi-racial child) walked among the masses, we noticed a few things. First, there weren't just Black people present. Yes, as expected there were White people there, too, lots of them just as there were White who marched with Dr. King 50 years ago. But I also observed people from other nationalities there, too. I saw a small group of Japanese people there, a Korean couple, a few Mexicans and two French girls were there, too. This place - Selma, AL - and the commemoration of the history walk that took place 50 years ago meant something to alot of people. Certainly, many people came hoping to get a glimpse of the President speak. But most were there just to be part of history and to reflect on what that march from Selma to Montgomery truly meant not only for Black people fighting for their right to be including in the American fabric. But people were also there to share in the fruit of the sacrifice many of the marchers made on that day. And I observed other people taking stock in the great human tapestry MLK, Jr and other civil rights leaders envisioned 50 years ago, as well.

People helped each other. They said hello. They were kind and considerate toward one another. And when I looked around me and saw my America not merely in Black and White, but in multi-color without a single negative incident taking place, I have to say I was never more proud to see ordinary people come together to share in an historical moment and want nothing but good will upon their fellow man.
 
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Find a topic and you can find an Obama lie on the topic.

In 2007, Obama said:

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation...This young man named Barack Obama...came over to this country. He met this woman...(who) had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided...it might...be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama... So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama. I'm here because somebody marched."

Barack Obama was addressed a group in Selma, AL commemorating the 1965 voting rights march. He credited the event with giving his parents the idea that they could have a child. The result was him--Barack Obama, Child of Destiny.

The problem is he was born in 1961 - and was already 4 years old. "What lie can I tell to this group?" is just how Obama thinks. And he became president out of it. Unquestionably the most successful liar in the world, literally.
 
It also should be noted that President Obama is not the prodigy of slaves nor of any American bigotry whatsoever. He is not of that history historically or personally. His ancestors did NOT suffer under slavery, bigotry and oppression, nor did any of them fight against.

It is unfortunate that the first American "black" president is not the prodigy of American slaves or sharecroppers. Not the prodigy of those who suffered racial segregation nor denied voting rights, civil rights or human rights. Instead, Obama is a cousin of Dick Cheney (literally) and Sarah Palin, with a Kenya family heritage likely connected to the slave trade itself.

Yes, the President should be there, but he should receive NO credit NOR his parents. Rather, it should be noted that HE benefited from the efforts of OTHERS.
 
Didn't our president say he was born because of Selma or something equally stupid? I like how the article calls him "America's first black president" too. Did I miss a news story where they discovered that his mother was not white, but really black?

Way to not focus on his racial background.

I'm sure you'll be the first to tell us all about how Ben Carson is "blacker."
 
Really?

Are you that narrow minded that you can't comprehend the significance of this day in history and how that walk across the Edmund Pettis Bridge changed things for today?

I happened to be there today, in Selma, AL, with my wife and two of our children, both daughters, and I can tell you it was a very moving experience not just for me but for my family and well.

Some of you may know that mine is a blended family, a mixture of Black and White. As my wife and I and our two daughters (her biological White child and our bi-racial child) walked among the masses, we noticed a few things. First, there weren't just Black people present. Yes, as expected there were White people there, too, lots of them just as there were White who marched with Dr. King 50 years ago. But I also observed people from other nationalities there, too. I saw a small group of Japanese people there, a Korean couple, a few Mexicans and two French girls were there, too. This place - Selma, AL - and the commemoration of the history walk that took place 50 years ago meant something to alot of people. Certainly, many people came hoping to get a glimpse of the President speak. But most were there just to be part of history and to reflect on what that march from Selma to Montgomery truly meant not only for Black people fighting for their right to be including in the American fabric. But people were also there to share in the fruit of the sacrifice many of the marcher made on that day. And I observed other people taking stock in the great human tapestry MLK, Jr and other civil rights leaders envisioned 50 years ago, as well.

People helped each other. They said hello. They were kind and considerate toward one another. And when I looked around me and saw my America not merely in Black and White, but in multi-color without a single negative incident taking place, I have to say I was never more proud to see ordinary people come together to share in an historical moment and want nothing but good will upon their fellow man.

Did you miss the "We'll never forget." part?

Yes I understand the significance of the event, but that doesn't mean I let the sins of 50 years ago define the reality of today. It doesn't mean I look at our great nation and see the blood shed on that bridge and think ?Man what a ****ty country we got soooo much to over come!" I look at today where I served under black officers, male and female and NO ONE THOUGHT TWICE ABOUT IT. I have friends and co workers whose skin color... just doesn't ****ing matter. I have neighbors who I greet that happen to hail from lands far and wide, whose skin, heritage and social norms are not mine. And no one I know gives two ****s that they do.

We care: Are you good, honest, law abiding folk who try to be the best you can be? That's it.

What happened on that bridge 50 years ago, was a terrible tragedy, what happened today was proof we've moved past such stupidity. Only those who cannot see the past as a guidepost and instead are defined by it, are the ones that need help, the rest of us just want to move on.
 
Every Black person with family history here in the US has at one point or another in the past had an ancestor who was 50-50, most probably have a half-dozen. THey are still all called Black.

I just note how conservatives never think about race, but apparently when it's Obama they do.
 
Didn't our president say he was born because of Selma or something equally stupid? I like how the article calls him "America's first black president" too. Did I miss a news story where they discovered that his mother was not white, but really black?

The roots for his presidency, for his ability to become president were born at Selma. Without the equal rights movement born in Selma, Obama could never have become president.

And Obama is black, even if his mother was white. He is of mixed race but I would think that if Obama would walk somewhere (and not known as president) he too would be stopped for the offense of walking while black (as some black people still are).
 
It also should be noted that President Obama is not the prodigy of slaves nor of any American bigotry whatsoever. He is not of that history historically or personally. His ancestors did NOT suffer under slavery, bigotry and oppression, nor did any of them fight against.

It is unfortunate that the first American "black" president is not the prodigy of American slaves or sharecroppers. Not the prodigy of those who suffered racial segregation nor denied voting rights, civil rights or human rights. Instead, Obama is a cousin of Dick Cheney (literally) and Sarah Palin, with a Kenya family heritage likely connected to the slave trade itself.

Yes, the President should be there, but he should receive NO credit NOR his parents. Rather, it should be noted that HE benefited from the efforts of OTHERS.

In fairness, his wife and children are prodigy of the slave and historically oppressed class. Not that I believe that to be relevant here in the 21st century. It's time to move on, IMO.
 
Find a topic and you can find an Obama lie on the topic.

In 2007, Obama said:

"What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation...This young man named Barack Obama...came over to this country. He met this woman...(who) had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided...it might...be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama... So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama. I'm here because somebody marched."

Barack Obama was addressed a group in Selma, AL commemorating the 1965 voting rights march. He credited the event with giving his parents the idea that they could have a child. The result was him--Barack Obama, Child of Destiny.

The problem is he was born in 1961 - and was already 4 years old. "What lie can I tell to this group?" is just how Obama thinks. And he became president out of it. Unquestionably the most successful liar in the world, literally.
"Senator Obama might be considered guilty of engaging in little pandering here by trying to imply a direct line between the 1965 Selma, Alabama, marches and his personal background (since he was speaking in Selma at the time).

However, the tenor of his speech was how the overall growth and progress of the Civil Rights movement affected the outlook of blacks (including his family), both in the U.S. and abroad. That movement did not start with the 1965 marches in Selma; it was a process that began and grew across the years, including among its landmark events the 1955-56 bus boycott in Montgomery (which occurred several years before Barack Obama was born, and before his father left Africa for the U.S.) and the 1963 anti-segregation protests in Birmingham — all of which (along with the Selma marches) took place in Alabama, and all of which were referenced by Senator Obama in his speech that day:
Yet something happened back here in Selma, Alabama. Something happened in Birmingham that sent out what Bobby Kennedy called, "Ripples of hope all around the world." Something happened when a bunch of women decided they were going to walk instead of ride the bus after a long day of doing somebody else's laundry, looking after somebody else's children. When men who had PhD's decided that's enough and we're going to stand up for our dignity. That sent a shout across oceans so that my grandfather began to imagine something different for his son. His son, who grew up herding goats in a small village in Africa could suddenly set his sights a little higher and believe that maybe a black man in this world had a chance.

What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation.​


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It also should be noted that President Obama is not the prodigy of slaves nor of any American bigotry whatsoever. He is not of that history historically or personally. His ancestors did NOT suffer under slavery, bigotry and oppression, nor did any of them fight against.

Ahem...
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And your comment about you somehow magically knowing if ancestors didn't suffer under "bigotry and oppression, nor did any of them fight against" is pretty dumb.
 
I'm not sure why February is Black History Month, but this is what I think of as relevant and important to commemorate and note when I think of Black History. Perhaps March would be a better month, so the history of this event and what led to it can be carried forward and discussed.

To those who question if President Obama is black because he has a white mother, that's just asinine in my view. Your entire ancestry is part of who you are and your heritage. My family traces back to English, Irish and French - perhaps why we fight so much - but all of it is part of all of us. It's petty to claim Obama isn't the first black President.

Perhaps the people in Ferguson, Missouri could take a cue from the people who marched to Selma, Alabama 50 years ago, in peace and harmony, with love in their hearts and no weapons in their hands or hate on their agenda. They might find some compromise and solutions if they did.
 
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