• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

LaylaWindu

One with the Force
DP Veteran
Joined
Jan 31, 2015
Messages
5,435
Reaction score
1,675
Location
PA
Gender
Female
Political Leaning
Independent
hopefully I do this right, please let me know if i didn't

Static link: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint - ABC News

Article:

[h=1]Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[/h]
Mar 7, 2015, 5:42 PM ET
A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man." The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today. "I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure." Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said. "And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said. "He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'" When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies. "I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man." She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled." On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately. "They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it." Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."






Wow so this lady made a complete ass of herself hahaha
I love that she made such an ass of herself and a stink of this that HER membership was cancelled. That's awesome. I'd like to know what danger she was talking about.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

meh, planet fitness is a dump of a gym, at least where I live. Hopefully she can find a gym more suited to her needs elsewhere in that area.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

She had every right to complain.

Love the Transgender agendas approach. Atempting to guilt people into acceptance usually backfires.

She had every right to assume she wasnt going to be exposing herself to the opposite sex in the Women's Locker room.

She didn't make an ass of herself, LA Fitness stepped over the line amd has adopted an eexceptionally stupid policy.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

She had every right to complain.

Love the Transgender agendas approach. Atempting to guilt people into acceptance usually backfires.

She had every right to assume she wasnt going to be exposing herself to the opposite sex in the Women's Locker room.

She didn't make an ass of herself, LA Fitness stepped over the line amd has adopted an eexceptionally stupid policy.

Planet Fitness not LA Fitness.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Planet Fitness has a right to set such corporate policy, but it is also liable for damages in a civil lawsuit for willful negligence should something unpleasant occur.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

She had every right to complain.

Love the Transgender agendas approach. Atempting to guilt people into acceptance usually backfires.

She had every right to assume she wasnt going to be exposing herself to the opposite sex in the Women's Locker room.

She didn't make an ass of herself, LA Fitness stepped over the line amd has adopted an eexceptionally stupid policy.

Yes I agree she had a right to complain, of course. I understand she may have even been initially startled or concerned but once it was explained to her that was it. Her continuing to complain and going to cooperate and approaching other members like the person was some type of criminal threat and slandering them exposed her bigotry and she made an ass out of herself with her hateful and bigoted comments. Hence her membership was revoked which was funny.

Planet fitness did it right and their policy is fine.

I can freely admit that without being told I myself could be caught off guard and have questions and may have even brought it up to the front office but once they inform me of the situation and that they are fully aware I'm done. Any personal concerns are now mine to handle.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Yes I agree she had a right to complain, of course. I understand she may have even been initially startled or concerned but once it was explained to her that was it. Her continuing to complain and going to cooperate and approaching other members like the person was some type of criminal threat and slandering them exposed her bigotry and she made an ass out of herself with her hateful and bigoted comments. Hence her membership was revoked which was funny.

Planet fitness did it right and their policy is fine.

I can freely admit that without being told I myself could be caught off guard and have questions and may have even brought it up to the front office but once they inform me of the situation and that they are fully aware I'm done. Any personal concerns are now mine to handle.

Did she slander the MAN that was caught using the Womens dressing room ? How did she slander him ??

And expecting to feel safe, secure in a dressing room set up for your gender has nothing to do with bigotry. I thought people on the left were pro-women.

The Transgender community is trying to bully its way into relevance and or using guilt to force people into compliance and I guarantee, that's going to backfire. Calling people " bigots " and other hateful insults doesn't increase sympathy or awareness.

On the contrary. It instills a sense of contempt for a group of people who are in the extreme minority, which the Transgender community is. You may think your making progress, but the reality is your breeding contempt and complacency.

There was nothing " hateful " about what she did, but you have no problem throwing slanderous terms of our own to try and minimize her right to feel safe and secure in a WOMENS dressing room. That overt hypocrisy doesn't go unnoticed.

You will never get true equality and respect through bullying and calling people " bigots " and hateful. What you WILL do is create a new level of contempt that never existed before and it will based on the fact that the Transgender agenda involves pro-active insults and accusations that amount to bullying.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

:mrgreen: the world is literally going mental.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

What put Planet Fitness over the line is when the complaining woman complained that the man was "not hot"
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

So if some guy looking like the one in your avatar says he thinks he's a woman (sincerely) he's ok hanging in the womens locker room?

I was just correcting you on the gym's name, not disagreeing with the point of your post.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

She had every right to complain.

And the business had every right to tell her to piss off.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

You didn't correct me because I never stated what the name was. Who care what the name is?

EDIT: I thought you were someone else, forget about my reply to you.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

hopefully I do this right, please let me know if i didn't

Static link: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint - ABC News

Article:

[h=1]Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[/h]
Mar 7, 2015, 5:42 PM ET
A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man." The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today. "I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure." Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said. "And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said. "He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'" When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies. "I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man." She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled." On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately. "They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it." Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."






Wow so this lady made a complete ass of herself hahaha
I love that she made such an ass of herself and a stink of this that HER membership was cancelled. That's awesome. I'd like to know what danger she was talking about.

This cracks me up!
I read a couple articles on this and Planet Fitness did the right thing. After the lady was notified of the companies policy, not only from the front desk but from headquarters she had two choices. Stop going or accept the policy. To continue to complain and demand special treatment and to claim there's a danger and to approach other members for the next four days is what got her membership pulled and rightfully so. I agree she made a complete ass of herself and her membership being pulled was of her own actions.

She stated " I don't care what you are; I don't care if you're gay lesbian, transgender or transvestite. I am uncomfortable with you as a male in my locker room, in my restroom."

so basically she wanted it to be her way or no way, her personal subjective comfortably level needed to be the policy in her eyes. Well the fact is its not "HER" locker room, Its planet fitness's locker room.

EDIT: just read another article claiming she was asked to stop approaching people and discussing the transgender member (which others complained her activities), she would not agree so that was the final straw. :shrug:
 
Last edited:
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Did she slander the MAN that was caught using the Womens dressing room ? How did she slander him ??

And expecting to feel safe, secure in a dressing room set up for your gender has nothing to do with bigotry. I thought people on the left were pro-women.

The Transgender community is trying to bully its way into relevance and or using guilt to force people into compliance and I guarantee, that's going to backfire. Calling people " bigots " and other hateful insults doesn't increase sympathy or awareness.

On the contrary. It instills a sense of contempt for a group of people who are in the extreme minority, which the Transgender community is. You may think your making progress, but the reality is your breeding contempt and complacency.

There was nothing " hateful " about what she did, but you have no problem throwing slanderous terms of our own to try and minimize her right to feel safe and secure in a WOMENS dressing room. That overt hypocrisy doesn't go unnoticed.

You will never get true equality and respect through bullying and calling people " bigots " and hateful. What you WILL do is create a new level of contempt that never existed before and it will based on the fact that the Transgender agenda involves pro-active insults and accusations that amount to bullying.

her words were in fact bigoted and hateful
assuming the the dressing room is now instantly unsafe and there's a heightened danger is bigoted and hateful


try reading the stories there was no "bullying" lol the whole issue was made because of the womans dramatic ranting nor is there hypocrisy
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

So if some guy looking like the one in your avatar says he thinks he's a woman (sincerely) he's ok hanging in the womens locker room?

Commander Riker would never think such thoughts...Though it is the days of Bruce Jenner so anything is possible ;)
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

She had every right to complain.

Love the Transgender agendas approach. Atempting to guilt people into acceptance usually backfires.

She had every right to assume she wasnt going to be exposing herself to the opposite sex in the Women's Locker room.

She didn't make an ass of herself, LA Fitness stepped over the line amd has adopted an eexceptionally stupid policy.

After reading the linked article, I went straight to the Planet Fitness web site and cancelled my membership. It was not so much the cancelling of the lady's membership, it was the "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," policy that they responded to her with. That is taking political correctness to a rather stupid level....and at some point it will probably result in a lawsuit. Some male creep can simply walk into the womens locker room and leer at the ladies....then if confronted, simply say......I feel like a female today.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

After reading the linked article, I went straight to the Planet Fitness web site and cancelled my membership.

if the policy bothers you that's a good move on your part, you did the right thing unlike this lady.
Had she just cancelled her membership, or changed in a private stall or not harassed other members per the gyms and members request she wouldn't have gotten hers cancelled.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

She had every right to complain.

Love the Transgender agendas approach. Atempting to guilt people into acceptance usually backfires.

She had every right to assume she wasnt going to be exposing herself to the opposite sex in the Women's Locker room.

She didn't make an ass of herself, LA Fitness stepped over the line amd has adopted an eexceptionally stupid policy.

You do understand that it is the Gym's policy not LGBT policy. The Gym cancelled her membership based on their dealings with her. The reason for the dispute is irrelevant.

She could have been easily complaining to other members for a host of other issues with the Gym. The Gym objected to her continuous complaining to the other members. The reason of her complaining is irrelevant.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

if the policy bothers you that's a good move on your part, you did the right thing unlike this lady.
Had she just cancelled her membership, or changed in a private stall or not harassed other members per the gyms and members request she wouldn't have gotten hers cancelled.

The woman had a right to be angry and she did not harass other members. Discussing what happened with other members is not harassment. If Planet Fitness wants to accomodate gender confused members, they should add a gender neutral locker room. I think the woman has a good case for a lawsuit.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

hopefully I do this right, please let me know if i didn't

Static link: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint - ABC News

Article:

[h=1]Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[/h]
Mar 7, 2015, 5:42 PM ET
A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man." The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today. "I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure." Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said. "And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said. "He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'" When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies. "I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man." She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled." On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately. "They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it." Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."






Wow so this lady made a complete ass of herself hahaha
I love that she made such an ass of herself and a stink of this that HER membership was cancelled. That's awesome. I'd like to know what danger she was talking about.

Pre-op Trans need to be self aware and considerate of others, post op trans should be treated as the gender they are.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Pre-op Trans need to be self aware and considerate of others, post op trans should be treated as the gender they are.
Errr ... why exactly do you or I care about someone's genitals?

Is it your business, or anyone's, to be examining another person's private areas?
 
Back
Top Bottom