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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

They are displaying irrational fear and sexism. Most men are not a danger to women. The vast majority of men are not a danger to women. And transgendered women cannot be shown to be any danger to cisgendered women, at least not a greater threat than other women.

For most people it is a privacy issue... the danger argument is yours based off that ONE WOMAN. Most everybody here is debating privacy and that men should not be in women's locker rooms. There is nothing irrational about not wanting the opposite gender in your locker room as you get naked or walk around in a towel. None at all...

This is a bunch of bull. Are letting your little sons, if you have any, get naked in front of grown men? Why would you allow that to happen to them?

I don't have any boys but boys are males so there is nothing strange about that...

Pure crap it is to believe that just getting naked in front of adults of either gender puts any child, if either sex in danger. What puts children in danger is believing that it is the "weirdos", the "homos and trannies" who are the ones who want to see little boys and/or little girls naked.

At 4, 5 or 6 years old it is no biggie either way... putting my newly menstrating and soon to be daughters in front of grown men is wrong.

...and stop with the "danger" crap. It is immoral and ****ing wierd to think that the above is OK. If men or women don't want trannies (people of the opposite gender) in their locker room then they shouldn't be in their locker room.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Yes, she can. There is no evidence to say otherwise, not even statistics support another assumption as far as her threat level is concerned. It is simply irrational fear and misguided beliefs that cause people to get upset about this. There is no actual evidence that transgendered people using the restroom/locker room/changing room of their identified gender puts anyone in danger from them.

Obviously you meant, "Yes, HE can."

We could simply not care.

You don't care. I care. Almost every person that I have talked to about issues like this care. If you don't like it then you need to get over it and stop insulting people that do care. It is rude and beneath you rogue.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

There you go. So what's the big deal about the husky man in a woman's dress?

Not analogous. Male/male scenario and female/female scenario is not analogous to male/female scenario.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I actually went around topless more often than not at home while I was breastfeeding my first son. My husband would be more concerned about people seeing me than I was. I really don't care.

Only about 5 percent of American beachgoers say they have gone nude at the beach and only a quarter feel comfortable with topless beaches, according to the 2013 Flip Flop Report, Expedia.com’s annual study of beach behavior and preferences in North America, South America, Europe, Asia and Australia.

American beachgoers opt to keep tops on, report finds - Money - TODAY.com

Obviously you are in the VAST MINORITY so just stop acting as if we all have problems... you sound like the one with the problem insisting that we all conform to what you think should be the norm
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I am, and I can't. They are being irrational. Good thing most women aren't actually like these women who have shown how sexist they can be.

Right. The vast minority of women that walk alone drunk at night are not attacked... by your logic those that do no think this is safe are irrational. Brilliant. :roll:
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Listen to yourself-"legitimate concerns", "so what", "they need to get over it". :doh
Other people see things differently than you. Do you want some beardo glaring through your window while you shower?

So what? Get over it because you have irrational fears. I have heard rogue repeat the mantra enough times and I now believe it...
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Some transgendered women have been able to win beauty pageants and you would have a hard time telling them from a genetic woman. What if such a transgendered woman was in a woman's locker room?

That is illogical. Camouflage concealing instances does not make a valid argument...
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

All I am saying is that a woman could pose a the same type of danger as a man.

Something like 43% of spousal abuse is women attacking the man.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

You nor those women have a right to not feel uncomfortable, nor even unsafe when they can't rationally show why it is reasonable for them to feel unsafe by a policy allowing transgendered people to use the locker room of the sex/gender they identify as.

A septuple negative? I thought a double negative was bad enough...
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I said I would prefer her being in the women's room than being in the men's room.

He is not a "her" because HE is a male.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Another perfect example of a 100% pure bigoted, hateful, topically ignorant and evil view. Thank you.

It is not bigoted, hateful or evil in the slightest. It is realistic.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Why do you say that?

Because the male an is, I don't know... a male?
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

He is not a "her" because HE is a male.

#Bodhisattvalogic

She is not a "he" because SHE is a female.

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He is not a "her" because HE is a male.

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Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

It is not bigoted, hateful or evil in the slightest. It is realistic.

It's 100% bigoted and hateful by definition
nothing will change that fact :shrug:

after that id say bigotry and hatefulness is pretty evil
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

#Bodhisattvalogic

Better than posting a couple of random pics about whoever they are as an argument. I have biological facts backing me. What do you have?
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

It's 100% bigoted and hateful by definition
nothing will change that fact :shrug:

after that id say bigotry and hatefulness is pretty evil

Calling a male a male is not bigotry... is there something else that I am missing or is your argument that bad? ;)
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Better than posting a couple of random pics about whoever they are as an argument. I have biological facts backing me. What do you have?

#Bodhisattvalogic

He should be forced to use the man's bathroom,

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And she should be forced to use the woman's bathroom,

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... because even though they look like a little girl and teenage boy, we should force the teenage boy to use the women's restroom and the little girl to use the men's restroom.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Calling a male a male is not bigotry... is there something else that I am missing or is your argument that bad? ;)
#Bodhisattvalogic

Hey Buck Angel, I better not see you using the men's bathroom. The female bathroom is where Bodhisattva want you to be!

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Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

1.)Calling a male a male is not bigotry
2.)... is there something else that I am missing or is your argument that bad? ;)

1.) weird can you qoute where i sad that is bigotry or did you just make that up and your argument is that bad? ;)
2.) yes you are missing the part you made up and was never called bigotry. Just one example is post 851

What I called bigotry and what is bigotry by definition is:

assuming a transgender is dangerous solely because they are transgender, and theres no reason to assume they wont harm others and then making the judgement they are freaky, creepy perverts who are severely disturbed simply because they are transgender.

that is the purest definition of bigotry.
Do you disagree with that fact?
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

#Bodhisattvalogic

Hey Buck Angel, I better not see you using the men's bathroom. The female bathroom is where Bodhisattva want you to be!

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Straw Man. Next?
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

1.) weird can you qoute where i sad that is bigotry or did you just make that up and your argument is that bad? ;)
2.) yes you are missing the part you made up and was never called bigotry. Just one example is post 851

What I called bigotry and what is bigotry by definition is:

assuming a transgender is dangerous solely because they are transgender, and theres no reason to assume they wont harm others and then making the judgement they are freaky, creepy perverts who are severely disturbed simply because they are transgender.

that is the purest definition of bigotry.
Do you disagree with that fact?

I don't disagree with what you said but what you said is not what he said, so..

Post #851 states:

A man who claims to be female, and insists on going into women's dressing facilities, cannot be assumed to be harmless. Such behavior is prima facie proof that he is, at the very least, severely disturbed, and lacking in respect for appropriate social boundaries. If someone is so inclined to violate such boundaries to that extent, then there is no reason to assume that he will stop there.

Nowhere is it anything like you claim in this statement:

assuming a transgender is dangerous solely because they are transgender, and theres no reason to assume they wont harm others and then making the judgement they are freaky, creepy perverts who are severely disturbed simply because they are transgender.

His argument is that a man in the women's locker room is wrong. He is also adding that they are perverted to which he is correct.

pervert
verb
verb: pervert; 3rd person present: perverts; past tense: perverted; past participle: perverted; gerund or present participle: perverting
pəˈvəːt/
1. distort or corrupt the original course, meaning, or state of (something).
"he was charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice"
synonyms: distort, warp, corrupt, subvert, twist, bend, abuse, divert, deflect, misapply, misuse, misrepresent, misinterpret, misconstrue, falsify, garble
"people who attempt to pervert the rules for their own gain"
2. lead (someone) away from what is considered natural or acceptable.
"Hector is a man who is simply perverted by his time"
synonyms: corrupt, lead astray, deprave, make degenerate, debauch, debase, warp, vitiate, pollute, poison, contaminate;
archaicdemoralize
"potentially great men can be perverted and destroyed by power"


https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=pervert&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=wrMkVeb8EY6C8gWD2YD4Ag

Most people, I would argue, think that perveted men are creepy and would not want their children around them.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I don't disagree with what you said but what you said is not what he said, so..

Post #851 states:

A man who claims to be female, and insists on going into women's dressing facilities, cannot be assumed to be harmless. Such behavior is prima facie proof that he is, at the very least, severely disturbed, and lacking in respect for appropriate social boundaries. If someone is so inclined to violate such boundaries to that extent, then there is no reason to assume that he will stop there.

Nowhere is it anything like you claim in this statement:

assuming a transgender is dangerous solely because they are transgender, and theres no reason to assume they wont harm others and then making the judgement they are freaky, creepy perverts who are severely disturbed simply because they are transgender.

His argument is that a man in the women's locker room is wrong. He is also adding that they are perverted to which he is correct.

pervert
verb
verb: pervert; 3rd person present: perverts; past tense: perverted; past participle: perverted; gerund or present participle: perverting
pəˈvəːt/
1. distort or corrupt the original course, meaning, or state of (something).
"he was charged with conspiring to pervert the course of justice"
synonyms: distort, warp, corrupt, subvert, twist, bend, abuse, divert, deflect, misapply, misuse, misrepresent, misinterpret, misconstrue, falsify, garble
"people who attempt to pervert the rules for their own gain"
2. lead (someone) away from what is considered natural or acceptable.
"Hector is a man who is simply perverted by his time"
synonyms: corrupt, lead astray, deprave, make degenerate, debauch, debase, warp, vitiate, pollute, poison, contaminate;
archaicdemoralize
"potentially great men can be perverted and destroyed by power"


https://www.google.co.nz/search?q=pervert&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=wrMkVeb8EY6C8gWD2YD4Ag

Most people, I would argue, think that perveted men are creepy and would not want their children around them.

yes it is, its not like you to lie, thats what he said and as said so many times, in many posts in many threads would you like me to BOLD it for you? lol

A man who claims to be female, and insists on going into women's dressing facilities, cannot be assumed to be harmless. Such behavior is prima facie proof that he is, at the very least, severely disturbed, and lacking in respect for appropriate social boundaries. If someone is so inclined to violate such boundaries to that extent, then there is no reason to assume that he will stop there.

theres nothign perverted about a transgender any more so than any other person, that is also bigoted
the man CAN be assumed to be just as harmless as anybody else

I would have ZERO issues with my children being around a transgender because there is ZERO rational to think they are any more dangerous than any other person. That too is bigoted.

It equally as bigoted if you wouldn't want your child around somebody who was christian or black. Its judging the person solely based on transgender and that is the purest from of bigotry.
SOrry but that fact wont change.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Something like 43% of spousal abuse is women attacking the man.

Ive read women are more likely to resort to physical violence, and have much higher instances of child abuse, etc. Its pretty ugly, and its rarely discussed.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Ive read women are more likely to resort to physical violence, and have much higher instances of child abuse, etc. Its pretty ugly, and its rarely discussed.

Where did you read that?
 
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