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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

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That guy is an idiot. He didn't even get half the fact of the case wrong and is highly biased. He isn't sincere at all, and it is obvious. Hell, he screwed up the first few seconds of the video, claiming that the woman who "asked" about the transgendered woman in the restroom "immediately" had her membership cancelled and was asked to leave. Not what happened.

And how much you want to bet they refused him entry due to his purposely trying to make a video about them, not because of anything else.
 
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That guy is an idiot. He didn't even get half the fact of the case wrong and is highly biased. He isn't sincere at all, and it is obvious. Hell, he screwed up the first few seconds of the video, claiming that the woman who "asked" about the transgendered woman in the restroom "immediately" had her membership cancelled and was asked to leave. Not what happened.

And how much you want to bet they refused him entry due to his purposely trying to make a video about them, not because of anything else.

The cameras appear to be hidden, how did they know he was making a video? And how did they know he wasn't sincere?

How do I know you are sincere in your comments? PROVE you are sincere.
 
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The cameras appear to be hidden, how did they know he was making a video? And how did they know he wasn't sincere?

How do I know you are sincere in your comments? PROVE you are sincere.

They knew his name. Or did you miss that? Wouldn't be that hard to recognize him.

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I know who he is, I like his show. The guy didn't say he knew his name, I believe he "knew" who he was because the other gym had called to notify him.
 
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I know who he is, I like his show. The guy didn't say he knew his name, I believe he "knew" who he was because the other gym had called to notify him.

The guy at the second gym clearly called him "Steve". If he was "sincerely" transgender, he wouldn't be using the name "Steve". It was obvious to anyone honest that they knew who he was, not just that he was some person kicked out of some other gym.

This is almost certainly what happened. Someone at the first gym recognized him as the conservative internet guy who goes out of his way to try to make places and/or people that he perceives as "liberal" look bad through stupid stunts like these. That someone realized that he was almost certainly filming. They probably asked him to leave, etc. Funny isn't it how he doesn't show why exactly he had to leave the first gym? I didn't see a single thing that would get him kicked out. Then the people from that one likely called other PF gyms in the area (because many times, they will have each other's numbers on speeddial), warning them that "Steve Crowder" was dressing as a "transgendered woman" and likely filming inside the gym.
 
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The guy at the second gym clearly called him "Steve". If he was "sincerely" transgender, he wouldn't be using the name "Steve". It was obvious to anyone honest that they knew who he was, not just that he was some person kicked out of some other gym.

This is almost certainly what happened. Someone at the first gym recognized him as the conservative internet guy who goes out of his way to try to make places and/or people that he perceives as "liberal" look bad through stupid stunts like these. That someone realized that he was almost certainly filming. They probably asked him to leave, etc. Funny isn't it how he doesn't show why exactly he had to leave the first gym? I didn't see a single thing that would get him kicked out. Then the people from that one likely called other PF gyms in the area (because many times, they will have each other's numbers on speeddial), warning them that "Steve Crowder" was dressing as a "transgendered woman" and likely filming inside the gym.

You still haven't proven that you are sincere. I figure he called him Steve because he saw his ID, not because they watch his show.

I like how the wall says "no criticism" but they have a "lunk alarm".
 
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You still haven't proven that you are sincere. I figure he called him Steve because he saw his ID, not because they watch his show.

I like how the wall says "no criticism" but they have a "lunk alarm".

He had just walked in. There was no evidence of him pulling out his ID at that time.

I don't give a damn about their "lunk alarm" or how hypocritical they might be. I'm not joining any frickin gym that I have to pay money for when there's a gym in my apartments.

What I do care about is honesty. And this guy was not being honest or sincere, and he got caught and tried to make it out like this was "judging" him. It was calling him out on him trying film inside their gym (which is probably against their rules) and looking to find something to use against them.
 
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He had just walked in. There was no evidence of him pulling out his ID at that time.

I don't give a damn about their "lunk alarm" or how hypocritical they might be. I'm not joining any frickin gym that I have to pay money for when there's a gym in my apartments.

What I do care about is honesty. And this guy was not being honest or sincere, and he got caught and tried to make it out like this was "judging" him. It was calling him out on him trying film inside their gym (which is probably against their rules) and looking to find something to use against them.

It looks like he had just walked in, its reasonable to figure he showed his ID at one gym, and when a crossdresser walked into another-they knew his name was "Steve". As for the woman that had her membership revoked-she was a paying member, and the actual crossdresser was a guest, iirc. Seems like she wasn't pleased with a dude walking around the womens locker room, I can't blame her.

As for "honesty" (are you going to vote for Hillary?), hes a satirist/commentator. And as he rightly pointed out-they already exclude people based on how muscular they are, and what equipment they have-but in this case they decided to include the sausage in the womens locker room.

And his point stands-how do you prove sincerity?
 
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It looks like he had just walked in, its reasonable to figure he showed his ID at one gym, and when a crossdresser walked into another-they knew his name was "Steve". As for the woman that had her membership revoked-she was a paying member, and the actual crossdresser was a guest, iirc. Seems like she wasn't pleased with a dude walking around the womens locker room, I can't blame her.

As for "honesty" (are you going to vote for Hillary?), hes a satirist/commentator. And as he rightly pointed out-they already exclude people based on how muscular they are, and what equipment they have-but in this case they decided to include the sausage in the womens locker room.

And his point stands-how do you prove sincerity?

First of all, it doesn't matter if she was a member or not, she broke the rules on how she decided to "complain" about the transgendered woman in the locker room (who wasn't even getting naked or staying in there long enough to see women naked). If she didn't like the policy, she could have called to cancel her membership and request a refund. Instead, she chose to break the rules and harass other people using the gym. That is why her membership was revoked.

Second, there was little doubt they knew WHO he was, not just his name. I don't care who they exclude. I've already covered this. It is their gym they can exclude whoever they want, for whatever reason they want. But it is still their gym.

He is not being sincere, there is no question about that. But they still trusted him at first, didn't they? Treated him as if he was being sincere until he got caught for his lie.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

First of all, it doesn't matter if she was a member or not, she broke the rules on how she decided to "complain" about the transgendered woman in the locker room (who wasn't even getting naked or staying in there long enough to see women naked). If she didn't like the policy, she could have called to cancel her membership and request a refund. Instead, she chose to break the rules and harass other people using the gym. That is why her membership was revoked.

Second, there was little doubt they knew WHO he was, not just his name. I don't care who they exclude. I've already covered this. It is their gym they can exclude whoever they want, for whatever reason they want. But it is still their gym.

He is not being sincere, there is no question about that. But they still trusted him at first, didn't they? Treated him as if he was being sincere until he got caught for his lie.

Yeah, its very understandable that a woman would be concerned to tell other women theres a man running around the womens locker room.
And what is the objective criteria to prove whats in another persons head, like "sincerity".
 
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Yeah, its very understandable that a woman would be concerned to tell other women theres a man running around the womens locker room.
And what is the objective criteria to prove whats in another persons head, like "sincerity".

There is not a "man" running around in the women's locker room. There was a transgendered woman in there twice, once to put up her purse/jacket, then to get them. And she wasn't just saying that. She claimed it put them in danger somehow. It doesn't in any way put anyone in danger, no matter what she wants to believe. That is bull**** and she shouldn't have been spreading such crap.

The criteria isn't really too hard, claim you are, likely wear either neutral or identifying gender's clothing, and dont' get caught doing something stupid that provides strong evidence you are not sincere in your claim to identify as that gender.
 
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There is not a "man" running around in the women's locker room. There was a transgendered woman in there twice, once to put up her purse/jacket, then to get them. And she wasn't just saying that. She claimed it put them in danger somehow. It doesn't in any way put anyone in danger, no matter what she wants to believe. That is bull**** and she shouldn't have been spreading such crap.

The criteria isn't really too hard, claim you are, likely wear either neutral or identifying gender's clothing, and dont' get caught doing something stupid that provides strong evidence you are not sincere in your claim to identify as that gender.

True or false, there was sausage in that woman's locker room.
 
PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

There is not a "man" running around in the women's locker room. There was a transgendered woman in there twice, once to put up her purse/jacket, then to get them.

That's a man. An exceptionally creepy man at that. He has no business being in a women's locker room.

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Ms. Cormier was right to object to him being in there, and she was right to warn other women.
 
Re: PERVERT Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Why am I reminded of silence of the lambs?

Probably because of the “Buffalo Bill” killer depicted therein, who was sort of an extreme version of a transvestite/transsexual/transgender sort of person. As I recall, his project was to make a “woman suit” out of the skins of actual women.

That fictional character was patterned after a real life person, named Ed Gein.

It's probably a bit of a stretch to suppose that Mr. Sklodowska has it in him to commit crimes of the sort that Ed Gein committed, but with someone that obviously and severely disturbed, you never really know.
 
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There is not a "man" running around in the women's locker room. There was a transgendered woman in there twice, once to put up her purse/jacket, then to get them. And she wasn't just saying that. She claimed it put them in danger somehow. It doesn't in any way put anyone in danger, no matter what she wants to believe. That is bull**** and she shouldn't have been spreading such crap.

The criteria isn't really too hard, claim you are, likely wear either neutral or identifying gender's clothing, and dont' get caught doing something stupid that provides strong evidence you are not sincere in your claim to identify as that gender.

No such thing as a "transgendered woman". There are men, and there are women. Whether they've had their genitals surgically mutilated or not, doesn't change a thing. This particular man had his genitals in tact. Right?
 
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She acted like a complete entitled bigoted bitch and also slandered the trans person and attempted to convince other members to quit. She had been there all of 2 months and didn't bother reading the policy. I don't blame them at all.

Complete paranoia to think one trans person will assault her in the locker room or whatever, while the uproar she's causing puts the trans person at risk of violence

"He should wait until i'm done." No if you have the problem, YOU wait. Otherwise that person will have to wait forever, as opposed to you waiting a few minutes, because of the trans/homophobes who bitch endlessly and think the world must revolve around them
 
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1.) accept that the majority of the medical community do not agree and theres lots of success doing so
2.) says you but theres MANY MANUY people that say its forcing them to accept that interracial marriage is ok. But it factually doesnt force anybody to accept anything
3.) again, there is no force to accept anything.
I can take your false example and use it the same with interracial marriage or a different religion etc.
here lets do that no....

"a black and a white who gets married and demands EVERYONE accept them as married including facilities that recongnize marriage is the very definition of forcing ones delusion (that interracial marriage is ok) onto another.

same thing, both false and neither force acceptance



I think you are purposefully missing the point to make a lazy comparison.


I can walk around with a black wife, you don't have to accept it..... I don't care, that's your right and as long as you don't intefere with MY rights we wont have a problem.


Now, if I am born a boy, and make myself look like a girl, replete with elective surgery, for me to DEMAND that you let me in the little girls room becomes a demand that I accept your modifications as a change in biological sex, which it is not.


but then again, as a libertarian, if some douchebag business wants to ban mixed race couples he should be able to. again, I'd rather know which businesses are racist for real so I can not give them my money.... but I digress.


as for the medical community, take a look at alcoholics, and the Sinclair method. why isn't that accepted over here over the 12 step program? Apparently it's peer reviewed, it's based on some very interesting science, yet it's acceptance here, is minimal.

the point is, the medical community can be wrong. and I can't accept that "the majority" of the "medical community" think "Gender re-asignment" is the best course of action, you would have to show me this.
 
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True or false, there was sausage in that woman's locker room.

They allow food in the locker rooms? That's sort of gross. I honestly don't know.
 
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No such thing as a "transgendered woman". There are men, and there are women. Whether they've had their genitals surgically mutilated or not, doesn't change a thing. This particular man had his genitals in tact. Right?

I don't know and no one seen her genitals, so neither did the woman at that time.
 
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I want to know what they think PF should have done.

Since you don't seem to be getting an answer to this, allow me to explain what each party SHOULD have done.

For Planet Fitness:

1. They should have immediately kicked the mentally deranged freakshow out of the building. Not the dressing room, the building.
2. They should have apologized to the woman (who was doing nothing wrong) for the oversight in allowing a man into her dressing room.
3. They should have given the woman anywhere between a free month and a free year to the gym for said oversight.
4. They should have made a press release stating that the delusional 0.3% are not allowed in EITHER dressing room, and they should stay at home out of sight where they belong.


For the Woman:

1. Nothing. She didn't do anything wrong.


For the deranged Man:

1. 'Ze' should have driven to the hospital and checked into the psych ward instead of going to the gym.
2. If 'ze' truly felt 'ze' needed to go to the gym, then 'ze' should have stayed the **** out of the women's dressing room.
3. At the very least 'ze' should go find a quack doctor stupid enough to chop his junk off so the rest of humanity doesn't have to deal with any of 'hir's' offspring. Better yet, 'ze' should just kill itself like the vast majority of mentally ill trannies thankfully do.
 
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Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Since you don't seem to be getting an answer to this, allow me to explain what each party SHOULD have done.

For Planet Fitness:

1. They should have immediately kicked the mentally deranged freakshow out of the building. Not the dressing room, the building.
2. They should have apologized to the woman (who was doing nothing wrong) for the oversight in allowing a man into her dressing room.
3. They should have given the woman anywhere between a free month and a free year to the gym for said oversight.
4. They should have made a press release stating that the delusional 0.3% are not allowed in EITHER dressing room, and they should stay at home out of sight where they belong.


For the Woman:

1. Nothing. She didn't do anything wrong.


For the deranged Man:

1. 'Ze' should have driven to the hospital and checked into the psych ward instead of going to the gym.
2. If 'ze' truly felt 'ze' needed to go to the gym, then 'ze' should have stayed the **** out of the women's dressing room.
3. At the very least 'ze' should go find a quack doctor stupid enough to chop his junk off so the rest of humanity doesn't have to deal with any of 'hir's' offspring. Better yet, 'ze' should just kill itself like the vast majority of mentally ill trannies thankfully do.
This is why we can't have nice things.
 
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You know exactly what I was talking about.

I know that in all seriousness, you, nor the complaining woman, nor anyone else truly knows how many "sausages", penises have been in that locker with women changing. There are women out there who have extra parts, including that one. And there are transgendered women who look a lot more like a woman than a man and still have a penis.
 
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