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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

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No, you aren't. "Decency" is subjective.

Everything is subjective in a world of leftwing political correctness. However most of us would rather deal in the real world.
 
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Pervert Fitness will surely gain a lion's share of the “creepy old men who like to dress up as women and go into the women's locker room” crowd. Do you think that will make up for the female customers that they will lose over such a policy? Me, neither.

They really should change their name to "Pervert Fitness".
 
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Planet Fitness can also solve this controversy by creating a third locker room for transvestites...

They can put a placard on the door that says: "Perverts"
 
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Oh, OK. Well in that case PF should put up 4 locker rooms in their branches: one for men, women, transvestites and transgenders. Happy now? :2wave:

Or they can just narrow the last two down to one locker room that says: "Gender confused".
 
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Evacuate the changing room and call in a demolition team to blow it up.
lol
crickets can survive the explosion, them and cockroaches ;)
 
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Under Planet Fitness's insane gender identity neutral policy, I don't suppose it matters. He could go into either locker room and molest children. Personally, I would not allow a known pedophile in either locker room. I would not allow a cross dresser in either. My concern is for the majority of the members....not the rare freaky pervert that walks in.

Is the guy a known pedophile?
 
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Here's a clue people. If you disagree with Planet Fitness' policy do not go there.
 
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Under Planet Fitness's insane gender identity neutral policy, I don't suppose it matters. He could go into either locker room and molest children. Personally, I would not allow a known pedophile in either locker room. I would not allow a cross dresser in either. My concern is for the majority of the members....not the rare freaky pervert that walks in.

Again, there is no safety issue here. Sex offenders can be male or female. And they can offend against males or females. There are different kinds of sex offenders as well. And there are a lot of rules sex offenders must follow. It is likely that they would in fact have to report themselves as a "sex offender" when joining a gym, since these places do have public changing rooms.
 
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Is the guy a known pedophile?

Don't know. Would not be surprised. But was just trying to make a point with RougeNuke
 
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Here's a clue people. If you disagree with Planet Fitness' policy do not go there.

I have already taken that advice and canceled my membership.
 
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Again, there is no safety issue here. Sex offenders can be male or female. And they can offend against males or females. There are different kinds of sex offenders as well. And there are a lot of rules sex offenders must follow. It is likely that they would in fact have to report themselves as a "sex offender" when joining a gym, since these places do have public changing rooms.

We even had a democrat president who was a sex offender.
 
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We even had a democrat president who was a sex offender.

Please show exactly where any US President was convicted of a legitimate sex crime and placed on the sex offender list. If there is no conviction, then they are not a "sex offender". In fact, they have to break an actual law that is considered a "sex crime".
 
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lol
crickets can survive the explosion, them and cockroaches ;)

Crickets is what I am getting from roguenuke
 
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When did I say that I have seen girls at the gym?

You wouldn't mind... fine. Got it. Many do. You feel safe getting naked in a group of men. Great. Got it. Most women don't. That is why they are covering themselves and changing out of view. Hell... you are arguing to just strip wherever and whenever because statistics show that you are safe. Great. Got it. Problem is that many, and I, have valid opinions. We don't want to change in front of the opposite gender. Basically... get over it.

Wrong. She doesn't want a "MAN" in the woman's locker room. Show a quote of hers complaining solely about her disapproving of a transgendered person and you will have a point... until then you should really stop this line of argument because you are 100% wrong.

Excuse me but that is crap. You guys are arguing that it is the discomfort. Everybody reacts and if you are claiming that she did not want a transgendered in but did not complain about it that THAT would make her not guilty of bigotry that is retarded... people are bigots regardless of their expressing it.

She is not a bigot for disliking a transgendered in there but she is a bigot because she "Expressed it"?

First point, I was addressing Obamacarefail's post about a pedophile dressing as a woman and entering the female locker room to stare at women and children. I responded that they could just as easily see children, boys, in the men's locker room. So then it was from that conversation that you said you haven't seen any boys in the men's locker room. That is fine, except that the claim before was essentially that these "creepy pedophiles" would try to get into the women's locker room to see naked children/teens. If there are none, then there is nothing to look at for pedophiles and no reason for them to dress as a woman to get into their locker room to leer at little girls.

Second, and third, she has no right to be comfortable. Any woman could just as easily be uncomfortable with ugly women, old women, young women, lesbians, women with weird eyes/lesions/hair/tattoos/body types or conditions being in their restrooms. Many women are "uncomfortable" with women who are comfortable with nakedness in general and don't view it as a sexual thing. Some women are uncomfortable with other women being "close". They feel this is a sign of them being gay because those women connect "closeness" with sexual feelings/intimacy only. They essentially don't know what platonic means.

More for third. She didn't really know that the person in the locker room was a man. She assumed based off of the person's appearance. She did not see the person's DNA nor their actual anatomy, especially not a penis, since the transgendered woman did not get undressed at all.

Bigotry is based on actions, not feelings. The reality is that if you do not act on feelings of intolerance, then you aren't truly strongly opposed to whatever it is you may claim to be intolerant of. Actions are pretty much required of some kind to make something bigotry. We are not mind readers.
 
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Crickets is what I am getting from roguenuke

I apologize for forgetting about your post. I was working when I viewed it, therefore on my phone, and it didn't become a priority.
 
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Second, and third, she has no right to be comfortable.

The entire point of having separate dressing room facilities is to recognize and uphold a right not to have people of the opposite sex present when one is undressing.


More for third. She didn't really know that the person in the locker room was a man. She assumed based off of the person's appearance. She did not see the person's DNA nor their actual anatomy, especially not a penis, since the transgendered woman did not get undressed at all.

It isn't always necessary. Sometimes, it is plainly obvious, as it was in this case. There was no room to doubt that the person she was seeing was a man.

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The entire point of having separate dressing room facilities is to recognize and uphold a right not to have people of the opposite sex present when one is undressing.

It isn't always necessary. Sometimes, it is plainly obvious, as it was in this case. There was no room to doubt that the person she was seeing was a man.

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First of all, no it isn't. The only reason we have separate restrooms is that is what we are used to. Things change.

Second, you still would not know the anatomy of that person from just looking at them, no matter what you assume their anatomy is based on their looks. You are assuming, as most of us do, based off of looks.

Kathleen Turner is a good example of this. I think she was a very good looking woman, yet she has not only been mistaken for a man before, but played a cross dressing man as well. Other famous women have been said to look like men too.

Ten Famous Women Who Might Be Men

With the right clothing and no makeup, any of these women could not only pass for men, but also pass for transgendered women.

Then there are easily plenty of transgendered women that many wouldn't think twice about being in the locker room, so why only those that look "very masculine" are worried about?
 
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First of all, no it isn't. The only reason we have separate restrooms is that is what we are used to. Things change.

Second, you still would not know the anatomy of that person from just looking at them, no matter what you assume their anatomy is based on their looks. You are assuming, as most of us do, based off of looks.

Kathleen Turner is a good example of this. I think she is a very good looking woman, yet she has not only been mistaken for a man before, but played a cross dressing man as well. Other famous women have been said to look like men as well.

Ten Famous Women Who Might Be Men

With the right clothing and no makeup, any of these women could not only pass for men, but also pass for transgendered women.

Then there are easily plenty of transgendered women that many wouldn't think twice about being in the locker room, so why only those that look "very masculine" are worried about?

Wonder why Michelle Obama didn't make that list. She's more mannish than any of those women, and has even been photographed with an odd bulge in the nether region. But seriously, that article is satire. You're just being silly.

The reason we have separate restrooms is because of modesty, that will never change. Nor should it.
 
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Wonder why Michelle Obama didn't make that list. She's more mannish than any of those women, and has even been photographed with an odd bulge in the nether region. But seriously, that article is satire. You're just being silly.

The reason we have separate restrooms is because of modesty, that will never change. Nor should it.

Why do you assume it won't change? There are plenty of things that have changed, including those related to "modesty". I would have been immodest right now for wearing pants not even a century ago. Look at our bathing suits, bikinis in particular. I can walk outside in a sports bra and pajama pants and flip flops and get served in most places.
 
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Why do you assume it won't change? There are plenty of things that have changed, including those related to "modesty". I would have been immodest right now for wearing pants not even a century ago. Look at our bathing suits, bikinis in particular. I can walk outside in a sports bra and pajama pants and flip flops and get served in most places.
We will always have separate bathrooms. Get over it.
 
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We will always have separate bathrooms. Get over it.

You can't know this first of all.

Second, we already have unisex bathrooms in some places.

Third, even if we maintain bathrooms/locker rooms for both genders, it doesn't mean that only those who were born those genders will or have been using them.
 
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Second, you still would not know the anatomy of that person from just looking at them, no matter what you assume their anatomy is based on their looks. You are assuming, as most of us do, based off of looks.

Kathleen Turner is a good example of this. I think she was a very good looking woman, yet she has not only been mistaken for a man before, but played a cross dressing man as well. Other famous women have been said to look like men too.

Ten Famous Women Who Might Be Men

With the right clothing and no makeup, any of these women could not only pass for men, but also pass for transgendered women.

Then there are easily plenty of transgendered women that many wouldn't think twice about being in the locker room, so why only those that look "very masculine" are worried about?

You think that this guy could plausibly pass as a woman? Seriously? Are you blind? Anyone can see, in spite of the wig, the dress, and the badly-fitting padded bra, that this is a man.

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The face, the arms, the legs, the general body shape—no woman looks like that. Not even the ugliest ones.

You try to support your argument by naming women who could pass for men if they tried, but that misses the point. This man could never pass as a woman. There is nothing sexually-ambiguous about his appearance, in spite of his best efforts to try to appear female.

Men have no legitimate business whatsoever being in women's locker rooms. Period. Not even men who claim to be “transgendered women”, and not even men who have had themselves surgically-mutilated to enhance their perverse delusions. Only women belong in women's locker rooms. That's why they are called women's locker rooms.
 
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You think that this guy could plausibly pass as a woman? Seriously? Are you blind? Anyone can see, in spite of the wig, the dress, and the badly-fitting padded bra, that this is a man.

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The face, the arms, the legs, the general body shape—no woman looks like that. Not even the ugliest ones.

You try to support your argument by naming women who could pass for men if they tried, but that misses the point. This man could never pass as a woman. There is nothing sexually-ambiguous about his appearance, in spite of his best efforts to try to appear female.

Men have no legitimate business whatsoever being in women's locker rooms. Period. Not even men who claim to be “transgendered women”, and not even men who have had themselves surgically-mutilated to enhance their perverse delusions. Only women belong in women's locker rooms. That's why they are called women's locker rooms.

It doesn't matter how much you feel "he" couldn't possibly pass as a woman. There are ways to change "his" appearance that would allow "him" to pass. But it doesn't matter because Planet Fitness, the company that owns the gym and locker rooms in question says "he" doesn't have to pass for a woman, only identify as one to use that locker room.
 
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Second, and third, she has no right to be comfortable. Any woman could just as easily be uncomfortable with ugly women, old women, young women, lesbians, women with weird eyes/lesions/hair/tattoos/body types or conditions being in their restrooms. Many women are "uncomfortable" with women who are comfortable with nakedness in general and don't view it as a sexual thing. Some women are uncomfortable with other women being "close". They feel this is a sign of them being gay because those women connect "closeness" with sexual feelings/intimacy only. They essentially don't know what platonic means.

More for third. She didn't really know that the person in the locker room was a man. She assumed based off of the person's appearance. She did not see the person's DNA nor their actual anatomy, especially not a penis, since the transgendered woman did not get undressed at all.

Bigotry is based on actions, not feelings. The reality is that if you do not act on feelings of intolerance, then you aren't truly strongly opposed to whatever it is you may claim to be intolerant of. Actions are pretty much required of some kind to make something bigotry. We are not mind readers.

You are not being honest (no offense) when you compare having a man in a female locker room with a woman with tats in the locker room. I won't even respond to that beyond this point.

More for third... there is no question that is a man. Another wacky counter-argument.

Bigotry is based on how you feel. A person can be a bigot without expressing it to anybody. They can be at home and say, "those ****ing queers should never be out in public" and you would never know it but that does not mean that they are not a bigot. Regarding mind readers... NOW, if you want to call a person a bigot you have to see them express it. To know they are a bigot requires their expressing it but to be a bigot requires that nobody else even be aware of it. I a serial killer not a serial killer if they never get caught?
 
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