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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

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One should be able to choose to allow the opposite sex to view them naked. It's funny, libs only favor "choice" when it suits their sick, twisted agenda.

They can. If you don't want someone of either sex to see you naked, don't get naked in front of them. You have no right to dictate to other people that they can't look at you getting naked in a public space, such as a locker room. If their presence bothers you, then you need to find another place to change.
 
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The policy states, whatever gender you "identify" with. You don't think perverts could take advantage of this policy? Certainly you aren't that naive.

Perverts can be of either gender. And how exactly do you envision them "taking advantage" of this policy?
 
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Yes I agree she had a right to complain, of course. I understand she may have even been initially startled or concerned but once it was explained to her that was it. Her continuing to complain and going to cooperate and approaching other members like the person was some type of criminal threat and slandering them exposed her bigotry and she made an ass out of herself with her hateful and bigoted comments. Hence her membership was revoked which was funny.

Planet fitness did it right and their policy is fine.

I can freely admit that without being told I myself could be caught off guard and have questions and may have even brought it up to the front office but once they inform me of the situation and that they are fully aware I'm done. Any personal concerns are now mine to handle.

Her comments were not hateful nor bigoted. She is complaining that there is a man in the woman's locker room. I don't care what he "feels" his gender is. He is free to feel that he is a woman, dress like a woman and do whatever he wants that is legal.... as a woman. A man should not be allowed in the woman's locker room though. Calling her a bigot is just ignorant and disrespectful...

I would not want a woman that feels like a man in the men's locker room either. I want to be able to chill out. A woman taking her shirt off and showing her breasts would not be relaxing... after a workout I want to chill in the sauna or shower and have some cave time. Last thing a man wants during cave time is a woman around. Well, women want to chill without men around and feel safe and secure being naked, changing, whatever.

I would not stand by if a boy felt like a girl and used my daughters locer room for a second. Ignorant fools and PC idiots could label me a bigot all they like but that boy will not be in with my girls. I will contact the school, the board, the district, the media. I would stand in front of the girls room and make it clear that he is not allowed in as well.
 
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This cracks me up!
I read a couple articles on this and Planet Fitness did the right thing. After the lady was notified of the companies policy, not only from the front desk but from headquarters she had two choices. Stop going or accept the policy. To continue to complain and demand special treatment and to claim there's a danger and to approach other members for the next four days is what got her membership pulled and rightfully so. I agree she made a complete ass of herself and her membership being pulled was of her own actions.

She stated " I don't care what you are; I don't care if you're gay lesbian, transgender or transvestite. I am uncomfortable with you as a male in my locker room, in my restroom."

so basically she wanted it to be her way or no way, her personal subjective comfortably level needed to be the policy in her eyes. Well the fact is its not "HER" locker room, Its planet fitness's locker room.

EDIT: just read another article claiming she was asked to stop approaching people and discussing the transgender member (which others complained her activities), she would not agree so that was the final straw. :shrug:

The article is not clear on that. She has every right to continue to complain without being kicked out and she did not want it her way... she was simply telling others about it.

her words were in fact bigoted and hateful

100% Wrong. In fact, it is your opinion that they were.
 
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thers no case
theres no evidence the gym failed to provide a safe and protective environment

try again

Did they inform women that men were allowed into the woman's locker room? A room that has historically been safe for women and woman only? No they did not. She has a case.
 
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I think its a hard situation, most people in either lockeroom, honestly would be comfortable....


was he post op or was the hawg out and swinging around?

Don't know. The woman said that it was obvious he was a man, despite the wig and blush. From what I read, it doesn't sound as if the complaining woman saw any parts.
 
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OK, I'll grant that and include those who don't care what sex they are. Together, that's what, 1/5 of 1% of the population? Good luck making a profit on such a tiny clientele, while alienating most of the remaining 99.8%.

Many don't care. Many others won't notice so then won't care. And if enough places have the policy (many likely have a similar policy), then it won't matter.
 
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And if it happens a few times, it's certainly reasonable to say that the facility is not maintaining a safe environment.

You would have to prove the facility didn't take action for legitimate complaints.
 
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Nobody has anything yet for this question?
I know its like a handful of people that feel this lady was wronged but what was the solution once she complained and informed that PF doesnt discriminate?
What should PF have done differently AFTER her complaint?

This isn't Separate But Equal with black schools and white schools or a woman's gym and a men's gym, which is legal byt the way... this is gender locker rooms at a both gender gym. Nobody is saying woman can't join or use certain fitness machines... they are saying men can use women's locker rooms. Having separate locker rooms is not discrimination and you know it. :lol:
 
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I read elsewhere that a trans person who believes she might have triggered the raging teacup storm isn't a member, but visited twice with a friend, wearing leggings and a baggy tee. Nobody complained at the time.
 
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The real solution here is one big unisex locker room. simple solutions by the good reverend! though d00ds with blacked out sunglasses should be looked upon with suspicion.


In reality the reason this is a "thing" is because what was, is, and even if changing what was, to the other, it does't seem "natural" to most and most get uncomfortable with that.

Now turn it around, women, here care more than men, that is a social construct.

Too bad if they are uncomfortable. Many women and men are uncomfortable changing in front of people of the same sex. I've had to pee in front of people staring at it coming out for over 16 years now, and purposely watch others do the same as an "observer". You get over it or you leave, that simple.
 
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1.)The article is not clear on that.
2.) She has every right to continue to complain without being kicked out
3.) she did not want it her way...
4.) she was simply telling others about it.
5.) no its a fact they are.
her words are bigoted because she is being prejudice and in fact equating the presence of any transgender to danger. That is bigoted. If i said its not safe in there case there's blacks in there, that is bigoted.


100% Wrong. In fact, it is your opinion that they were.

1.) clear on what?
2.) no she hs no right to not be kicked out, she does have every right to complain though
3.) actually her own qoutes do say she wanted the transgender to do things her way
4.) for 4 days in a row and the others complained about it and she was asked to stop and it violated policy
 
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1.)Did they inform women that men were allowed into the woman's locker room?
2.)A room that has historically been safe for women and woman only? No they did not. She has a case.

1.) its in thier policy
2.) its still safe
3.) she has no case because theres no evidence the gym failed to provide a safe and protective environment.
 
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That choice still exists - simply choose another gym. You have no right to set/change company policy simply because you are a customer. If you want a Whopper then don't patronize McDonald's and then fuss about them not offering to make you one - simply go to Burger King instead. ;)
Yeah, because burgers are exactly the same as perverted men stalking the women's locker room. :roll:
 
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1.)This isn't Separate But Equal with black schools and white schools or a woman's gym and a men's gym, which is legal byt the way... this is gender locker rooms at a both gender gym. Nobody is saying woman can't join or use certain fitness machines... they are saying men can use women's locker rooms. Having separate locker rooms is not discrimination and you know it. :lol:


you didnt answer the question though Bodi and YOU know it :p ;)
how you been by the way . .. probably not dealing with -degree weather and a foot of snow like me ****er!

after her initial reaction/complain whcih i understand and after she was told the policy by both the local facility and corporate what do you think PF should have done different?
 
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Perverts can be of either gender. And how exactly do you envision them "taking advantage" of this policy?

Are you seriously that naive? Naw.....
 
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Yeah, because burgers are exactly the same as perverted men stalking the women's locker room. :roll:
oh the irony
what does a perverted men stalking the women's locker room have to do with this topic?
 
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Her comments were not hateful nor bigoted. She is complaining that there is a man in the woman's locker room. I don't care what he "feels" his gender is. He is free to feel that he is a woman, dress like a woman and do whatever he wants that is legal.... as a woman. A man should not be allowed in the woman's locker room though. Calling her a bigot is just ignorant and disrespectful...

I would not want a woman that feels like a man in the men's locker room either. I want to be able to chill out. A woman taking her shirt off and showing her breasts would not be relaxing... after a workout I want to chill in the sauna or shower and have some cave time. Last thing a man wants during cave time is a woman around. Well, women want to chill without men around and feel safe and secure being naked, changing, whatever.

I would not stand by if a boy felt like a girl and used my daughters locer room for a second. Ignorant fools and PC idiots could label me a bigot all they like but that boy will not be in with my girls. I will contact the school, the board, the district, the media. I would stand in front of the girls room and make it clear that he is not allowed in as well.

It is amazing how far some will go feigning ignorance, in order to toe an ideological line. I can't believe there are people actually arguing in favor of this idiotic policy. Wow....
 
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you didnt answer the question though Bodi and YOU know it :p ;)
how you been by the way . .. probably not dealing with -degree weather and a foot of snow like me ****er!

after her initial reaction/complain whcih i understand and after she was told the policy by both the local facility and corporate what do you think PF should have done different?

Doing good bro... and you? ...and no, no snow here AT ALL.

My 9 year-old is starting to paint. She is good...

I think that PF should create a gender confused locker room where anybody that wants to can go... straight, gay, confused. All good.

1.) its in thier policy
2.) its still safe
3.) she has no case because theres no evidence the gym failed to provide a safe and protective environment.

1. It is
2. I disagree. Men in a woman's locker room is not safe at all
3. Failure to openly disclose such a policy is negligent.

1.) clear on what?
2.) no she hs no right to not be kicked out, she does have every right to complain though
3.) actually her own qoutes do say she wanted the transgender to do things her way
4.) for 4 days in a row and the others complained about it and she was asked to stop and it violated policy

1. Clear on her harassing...
2. She has the right to complain and since all she did was complain to others that is not grounds to be kicked out.
3. To not allow a man into the woman's locker room... yes.
4. I hope everybody quits a business like that and sets a precedent to other business...
 
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It is amazing how far some will go feigning ignorance, in order to toe an ideological line. I can't believe there are people actually arguing in favor of this idiotic policy. Wow....

Agreed. I think you are like me... want to be transgendered, or whatever (as long as you don't harm others, pay your taxes, etc) then fine. Go for it. Good for you. It doesn't bother me in the slightest. In many ways I am happy that they are happy with themselves. Want to then take your gender confusion and push it on others and then complain when they don't like it... THAT is the crap that I can't stand.
 
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you didnt answer the question though Bodi and YOU know it :p ;)
how you been by the way . .. probably not dealing with -degree weather and a foot of snow like me ****er!

after her initial reaction/complain whcih i understand and after she was told the policy by both the local facility and corporate what do you think PF should have done different?

And you ignored that this isn't a discrimination issue and YOU KNOW IT. ;)
 
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oh the irony
what does a perverted men stalking the women's locker room have to do with this topic?

I really cant believe anyone is that ignorant, but for the sake of argument. A perverted man could claim he "identifies" as a woman to gain access the women's locker room, and ogle, or worse. But I'm not buying your feigned ignorance. :roll:
 
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oh the irony
what does a perverted men stalking the women's locker room have to do with this topic?

It has everything to do with this topic. It is 100% the issue. 100% literally...
 
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1.)Doing good bro... and you? ...and no, no snow here AT ALL.
2.)My 9 year-old is starting to paint. She is good...
3.)I think that PF should create a gender confused locker room where anybody that wants to can go... straight, gay, confused. All good.
4.) I disagree. Men in a woman's locker room is not safe at all
5.) Failure to openly disclose such a policy is negligent.
6.) Clear on her harassing...
7.) She has the right to complain and since all she did was complain to others that is not grounds to be kicked out.
8.) To not allow a man into the woman's locker room... yes.
9.) I hope everybody quits a business like that and sets a precedent to other business...

1.) Cant complain, Im going to be taking on yet another coaching job, this time for the school district, SO ill have a REC team, a Travel Team and a school team. Im excited.
My "little" mini me is getting ready to graduate!!!!
2.) thats awesome! She is young but play around and she if she likes clay and digital stuff too (drawing and photography)
3.) Id be ok with that but that is somethign that would have to be done before hand or when the company feels it can afford it.
4.) why are transgender anymore dangerous than normal people
5.) who says it was secret? and negligence still needs harm or potential of harm
6.) possibly note but she approached people for 4 days and some complained and that violates policy, which, she was simply asked to stop first and she refused
7.) yes she has the right to complain and they have every right to kick her out especially since she broke rules
8.) transgender yes,which is not her decision to make, not her company
9.) that aint gonna happen.
 
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And you ignored that this isn't a discrimination issue and YOU KNOW IT. ;)

i dint call it legal discrimination, i said PF has thier own equality policy and thats thier decision, they choose not to discriminate to transgender and again that thier decision.
Lady has no power over that
 
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