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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

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The woman had a right to be angry and she did not harass other members. Discussing what happened with other members is not harassment. If Planet Fitness wants to accomodate gender confused members, they should add a gender neutral locker room. I think the woman has a good case for a lawsuit.

No, she doesn't. So long as the gym can show that they asked her not to bother other gym members about a particular other gym member that she was uncomfortable with, and she refused, they had every right to revoke her membership and there isn't a damn thing she can do about it.
 
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what is it protecting children from, specifically?
transgenders don't have a monopoly on pedophilia, that I am aware of.

:raises eyebrow: strawman? No one is suggesting that they do.

so explaining why there's a "dangling bit" is problematic, but explaining why two women or men might be kissing isn't?

Oh I would definitely ban sexual contact. Just not gay people - it comes down to simple logistics at that point.
 
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My issue is two fold:

1. If you're in the ladies locker room, and you have dangly bits, that's awkward. Seriously, why do that to others? If you can pass, maybe been on HRT/implants... change where or in a way others don't see this. It's called being polite.

2. If there children present, they don't need to have that issue in their lives.

People really need to get over themselves and seeing the parts of the opposite sex. It really isn't that big of a deal.
 
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Not wanting men in the women's locker room is "making an ass of herself"? Only in liberal lala land. Or, Layla land, in this case. :roll:

Complaining about that other specific person personally to anyone using the gym is making an ass of herself, and that is what she did.
 
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The point is simply that other people also have rights, and creating a system to enable their victimization, however "politically correct" is wrong.

No, but more so. We put men in prison who expose themselves to little girls, and for good reason.

Actually, it depends on the circumstances. And why does that policy not apply to women exposing themselves in locker rooms when other women take their sons with them into those locker rooms? Why would that policy not apply to every man in the locker room when a child, male or female, is with their father in the locker room?
 
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I think this is going to be a parent v non-parent issue, there, with parents naturally more concerned with taking care of kids, and non-parents more concerned with maximizing freedom of movement.

Actually, no. I am in no way worried about the "bits" my sons see unless someone is intentionally showing them for some sexual gratification on their part, which would not likely be done in the locker room at a gym, particularly not the female locker room. Intention actually means something to reasonable people.
 
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That is quite possibly the most hideous coat i have ever seen. Yvette Cormier identifies as an animal? Is she fur-real?
 
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What I don't understand is how every time this lady went to the gym, the same guy was in the locker room. Are they literally on the same schedule?
 
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hopefully I do this right, please let me know if i didn't

Static link: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint - ABC News

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[h=1]Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[/h]
Mar 7, 2015, 5:42 PM ET
A Michigan woman's Planet Fitness membership was revoked after she complained about a transgender person in the women's locker room.Yvette Cormier, a 48, said she was walking into the Midland Planet Fitness locker room last Saturday when she saw someone "dressed like a man." The person was wearing a wig and "a little bit of blush," but was "huge" and appeared "very manly," Cormier told ABC News today. "I just stopped right there in my tracks," she said. "It was a man for sure." Cormier, who had been a Planet Fitness member for two months, said she went to the front desk immediately. The man at the desk told her that Planet Fitness policy is "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," she said. "And then he said, 'We've had lots of complaints about him but we told him to go change in a stall,'" Cormier said. "He said, 'if you're uncomfortable with that you can wait until he's done in there,'" she said. "I stood back and said, 'How about he waits until I'm done in the women's locker room. Or get a unisex bathroom.' He asked if I would like to talk to the manager and I said, 'I'm calling corporate.'" When she called the corporate offices, she said, someone there confirmed that the person at the front desk was correct about Planet Fitness policies. "I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said, adding that the gym is "failing to protect me if anything happens in those locker rooms with a man." She said she went back to the gym the next few days and "told everyone in the locker room what happened." She said everyone she talked to "was appalled." On Thursday, Cormier said, Planet Fitness Corporate called and revoked her membership immediately. "They said, 'You are talking to people about him in the women's locker room. You are making people upset.' That's my whole point," she said. "I'm telling them and warning them because you are not doing that. You allow men in there, and we are appalled by it." Planet Fitness Director of Public Relations McCall Gosselin said the gym is "committed to creating a non-intimidating, welcoming environment for our members. Our gender identity non-discrimination policy states that members and guests may use all gym facilities based on their sincere self-reported gender identity."






Wow so this lady made a complete ass of herself hahaha
I love that she made such an ass of herself and a stink of this that HER membership was cancelled. That's awesome. I'd like to know what danger she was talking about.
This lady was setting them up to get sued. I would have banned her too.
 
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1.)It's a "social movement seeking transgender rights and affirming transgender pride."
2.)Do you also need us to define transgender for you, or do you have that one covered?

1.)oh really, so now that you answered and not the person I asked do you agree with his statement?
95% of people on the left (im guessing he thinks even higher on the right) are against transgender rights? please cover that next lol

2.) And no, unlike a few here i definitely know what transgender is, that is why I dont make bigoted statements and assumptions that this just magically makes the locker room "dangerous" and "unsafe"
 
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What I don't understand is how every time this lady went to the gym, the same guy was in the locker room. Are they literally on the same schedule?

Well, if you could get in to the women's locker room by just putting on some blush would you ever leave? :lamo
 
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Well, if you could get in to the women's locker room by just putting on some blush would you ever leave? :lamo

So because you seem to be juvenile enough in your thoughts and behaviors, you assume others must be too?

If the "guy"/trans woman was really just a pervert getting peeks, and the gym was really get legitimate complaints about inappropriate behavior, not just being in the locker room, then the gym could have revoked his/her membership.
 
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So because you seem to be juvenile enough in your thoughts and behaviors, you assume others must be too?

If the "guy"/trans woman was really just a pervert getting peeks, and the gym was really get legitimate complaints about inappropriate behavior, not just being in the locker room, then the gym could have revoked his/her membership.

Yeah, men really should be allowed to shower in the women's locker room so long as they say they aren't sexually attracted to any of the women in the gym because anyone who objects is a homophobe. :roll:
 
Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Yeah, men really should be allowed to shower in the women's locker room so long as they say they aren't sexually attracted to any of the women in the gym because anyone who objects is a homophobe. :roll:

I don't have any issue with it. They are no more likely than women to do something as public a place as a locker room is.

I have changed with guys before.

And please stop with the victim mentality. Where have I called anyone a homophobe in this thread or even another recent thread on this subject?
 
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So because you seem to be juvenile enough in your thoughts and behaviors, you assume others must be too?

If the "guy"/trans woman was really just a pervert getting peeks, and the gym was really get legitimate complaints about inappropriate behavior, not just being in the locker room, then the gym could have revoked his/her membership.

exactly but after the initial complaint about the lady's concerns there were no legitimate complaints to be made. The legit complaints came from other members of the lady bothering them and making them uncomfortable and violating the rules of the gym. Hence she got the axe and made fool of herself.

If there was ever a LEGIT complaint made then yes id support throwing out anybody but that wasnt the case with this lady's repeated attempts.
 
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exactly but after the initial complaint about the lady's concerns there were no legitimate complaints to be made. The legit complaitns came from other members of the lady bothering them and making them uncomfortable and violating the rules of the gym. Hence she got the axe and made fool of herself.

So the lady's complaint of being made uncomfortable with a man in the women's locker room was dismissed, but other member's being made uncomfortable by her complaints were accepted and acted upon?

Sounds like retaliatory sue-bait.
 
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1.)So the lady's complaint of being made uncomfortable with a man in the women's locker room was dismissed, but other member's being made uncomfortable by her complaints were accepted and acted upon?

Sounds like retaliatory sue-bait.

1.) yes because of policy and rules
2.) no this is ZERO grounds for a case

heres the history

-Lady complains to front deck, she is told about the policy and that they are aware of the person. She was given options to either not go in there when they are in there or use a private stall but it is allowed. SHe wanted them to be made to do that.
-Lady Complains to cooperate, she receives the same info
-Then she goes on her own for the next 4 days approaching other members about the issue, making bigoted claims and telling them its unsafe etc etc they complain because she is breaking the rules about no judgment and making them uncomfortable and they feel harassed
-Cooperate asks her to stop breaking this rule and approaching other members because they feel uncomfortable and its wrong to the original person she is complaining about. She refuses.
_membership axed

she has nobody to blame but her own dumbass for breakign the rules and her hateful coments
 
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My issue is two fold:

1. If you're in the ladies locker room, and you have dangly bits, that's awkward. Seriously, why do that to others? If you can pass, maybe been on HRT/implants... change where or in a way others don't see this. It's called being polite.

2. If there children present, they don't need to have that issue in their lives.

I believe she was blocked from entrance into the locker-room by an employee, so there was no mingling of bits.

We're at a point where this issue is beginning to be addressed in the form of unisex and individual RR or changing rooms. As time progresses the infrastructure will follow.
 
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1.) yes because of policy and rules
2.) no this is ZERO grounds for a case

heres the history

-Lady complains to front deck, she is told about the policy and that they are aware of the person. She was given options to either not go in there when they are in there or use a private stall but it is allowed. SHe wanted them to be made to do that.
-Lady Complains to cooperate, she receives the same info
-Then she goes on her own for the next 4 days approaching other members about the issue, making bigoted claims and telling them its unsafe etc etc they complain because she is breaking the rules about no judgment and making them uncomfortable and they feel harassed
-Cooperate asks her to stop breaking this rule and approaching other members because they feel uncomfortable and its wrong to the original person she is complaining about. She refuses.
_membership axed

she has nobody to blame but her own dumbass for breakign the rules and her hateful coments

She made bigoted claims to other members ?

Exactly what did she say ?
 
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Planet fitness is not a "Gym" or a place to "workout" and should only have a ladies room anyway cause the d00ds that go there are ladies anyway.
 
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I believe she was blocked from entrance into the locker-room by an employee, so there was no mingling of bits.

We're at a point where this issue is beginning to be addressed in the form of unisex and individual RR or changing rooms. As time progresses the infrastructure will follow.

just an FYI to help others get the story (not saying you just saying in general)
the option was given to her that she could simply wait to that person isnt present, she said they should be made to do that for her or this place does have private changing stalls and the lady was told she can use that option . . . that wasn't good enough for her . . .she wanted policies changed :shrug:

also you maybe right, some places will probably do what you suggested, some will not
 
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Complaining about that other specific person personally to anyone using the gym is making an ass of herself, and that is what she did.

I don't blame her. Their dangerous PC policy is bull****.
 
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1.) yes because of policy and rules
2.) no this is ZERO grounds for a case

heres the history

-Lady complains to front deck, she is told about the policy and that they are aware of the person. She was given options to either not go in there when they are in there or use a private stall but it is allowed. SHe wanted them to be made to do that.
-Lady Complains to cooperate, she receives the same info
-Then she goes on her own for the next 4 days approaching other members about the issue, making bigoted claims and telling them its unsafe etc etc they complain because she is breaking the rules about no judgment and making them uncomfortable and they feel harassed
-Cooperate asks her to stop breaking this rule and approaching other members because they feel uncomfortable and its wrong to the original person she is complaining about. She refuses.
_membership axed

she has nobody to blame but her own dumbass for breakign the rules and her hateful coments

What other situations does the corporate policy of "shut the **** up and deal with it" apply?

Doesn't that apply to her as well? She's allowed to complain all she wants, and everyone else should deal with it, because that's just who she is.
 
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