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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

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Ive read women are more likely to resort to physical violence, and have much higher instances of child abuse, etc. Its pretty ugly, and its rarely discussed.

yeah... I didn't realize the facts/stats until I became a victim from my ex-wife. I stayed for the kids but we ended up divorcing anyway. She, and women, are faster to use weapons (pots, big wooden spoons, knives, plates, etc.) as weapons than men. Obvious as to why but it also makes for some big injuries. I was throwing up in the toilet one night sick with the flu or something and she was so mad that I was not able to help her so she threw a pot at my head as it was in the toilet. She missed and started screaming in a rage... that type of ****. Another thing... I was watching Jerry McGuire the other night and there is that scene were his girlfriend sucker punches him and knees him in the stomach as he doubles over and calls him a loser. That is assault but it is hailed as comedy. Put that in a movie where a man does that to a woman and see what women think. Double standard bull**** and there is nothing funny about it.
 
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yes it is, its not like you to lie, thats what he said and as said so many times, in many posts in many threads would you like me to BOLD it for you? lol

A man who claims to be female, and insists on going into women's dressing facilities, cannot be assumed to be harmless. Such behavior is prima facie proof that he is, at the very least, severely disturbed, and lacking in respect for appropriate social boundaries. If someone is so inclined to violate such boundaries to that extent, then there is no reason to assume that he will stop there.

theres nothign perverted about a transgender any more so than any other person, that is also bigoted
the man CAN be assumed to be just as harmless as anybody else

I would have ZERO issues with my children being around a transgender because there is ZERO rational to think they are any more dangerous than any other person. That too is bigoted.

It equally as bigoted if you wouldn't want your child around somebody who was christian or black. Its judging the person solely based on transgender and that is the purest from of bigotry.
SOrry but that fact wont change.

It isn't lying any more than you ignoring my definitions about perverted. It is a different way of looking at things and no amount of you stating them a fact will change, get ready... that FACT. That said we don't know enough to start saying things like trangendered men are not dangerous, although I personally don't think they are any more dangerous than anybody else. The FACT is that this is a new phenom. There is not enough data either way with these men in women's locker rooms.
 
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yeah... I didn't realize the facts/stats until I became a victim from my ex-wife. I stayed for the kids but we ended up divorcing anyway. She, and women, are faster to use weapons (pots, big wooden spoons, knives, plates, etc.) as weapons than men. Obvious as to why but it also makes for some big injuries. I was throwing up in the toilet one night sick with the flu or something and she was so mad that I was not able to help her so she threw a pot at my head as it was in the toilet. She missed and started screaming in a rage... that type of ****. Another thing... I was watching Jerry McGuire the other night and there is that scene were his girlfriend sucker punches him and knees him in the stomach as he doubles over and calls him a loser. That is assault but it is hailed as comedy. Put that in a movie where a man does that to a woman and see what women think. Double standard bull**** and there is nothing funny about it.

Yeah, its hilarious when women do it. :roll: Men are just punching bags and here to provide them money, kill spiders, and serve as a heat source when they are cold. :doh

I have a friend who lets just say is a mans man. He was absolutely terrorized to the point of tears after dating a violent woman who was about 5ft3 100 lbs. And he works closely with the cops and was terrified not only that he would go to jail for being attacked by her, but by the fact that his coworkers would see that he was beat by a tiny woman-and that others would just assume he was the one doing the hitting.

This crap is NEVER talked about.
 
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Harvard medical school published a study.
http://newscastmedia.com/harvard_study.htm

Also the American Journal of Public Health.
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And a similar pattern has been found in the UK.
Everyone’s business: Improving the police response to domestic abuse

Women are getting more violent, as well as more depressed.

Wow you are a real misogynist:

Results. Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=2.3; 95% confidence interval [CI]=1.9, 2.8), but not men (AOR=1.26; 95% CI=0.9, 1.7). Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women (AOR=1.3; 95% CI=1.1, 1.5), and reciprocal intimate partner violence was associated with greater injury than was nonreciprocal intimate partner violence regardless of the gender of the perpetrator (AOR=4.4; 95% CI=3.6, 5.5).

Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence
 
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Is there an update to this story?
 
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Wow you are a real misogynist:

Results. Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=2.3; 95% confidence interval [CI]=1.9, 2.8), but not men (AOR=1.26; 95% CI=0.9, 1.7). Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women (AOR=1.3; 95% CI=1.1, 1.5), and reciprocal intimate partner violence was associated with greater injury than was nonreciprocal intimate partner violence regardless of the gender of the perpetrator (AOR=4.4; 95% CI=3.6, 5.5).

Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence

First of all, I like how you opened with name calling. :lol:

I said women were more likely to RESORT to violence, as in initiate it (non-reciprocal). Try again bud, I get all the latest data on domestic violence through work.

Maybe next time, instead of feigning a desire to see the data, just cut straight to the name calling, ok?
 
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First of all, I like how you opened with name calling. :lol:.

Calling a spade a spade is name calling?

I said women were more likely to RESORT to violence, as in initiate it (non-reciprocal). Try again bud, I get all the latest data on domestic violence through work.

Of course you do that is why you link to original source material. Oh wait you did not that, go figure.
 
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Wow you are a real misogynist:

Results. Almost 24% of all relationships had some violence, and half (49.7%) of those were reciprocally violent. In nonreciprocally violent relationships, women were the perpetrators in more than 70% of the cases. Reciprocity was associated with more frequent violence among women (adjusted odds ratio [AOR]=2.3; 95% confidence interval [CI]=1.9, 2.8), but not men (AOR=1.26; 95% CI=0.9, 1.7). Regarding injury, men were more likely to inflict injury than were women (AOR=1.3; 95% CI=1.1, 1.5), and reciprocal intimate partner violence was associated with greater injury than was nonreciprocal intimate partner violence regardless of the gender of the perpetrator (AOR=4.4; 95% CI=3.6, 5.5).

Differences in Frequency of Violence and Reported Injury Between Relationships With Reciprocal and Nonreciprocal Intimate Partner Violence


:lol: What is misogunistic about that? Your own stats show how violent women are/can be! For ****s sake? :roll:

In 2006-07 men made up 43.4% of all those who had suffered partner abuse in the previous year, which rose to 45.5% in 2007-08

More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals | Society | The Guardian
 
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Calling a spade a spade is name calling?



Of course you do that is why you link to original source material. Oh wait you did not that, go figure.



Just pure emotion. Can you explain how facts are misogynistic? Learn to make your case better and you wont have to resort to that.

Ive given you the links, the American studies are on Pubmed. (Library of Congress).
 
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Right. The vast minority of women that walk alone drunk at night are not attacked... by your logic those that do no think this is safe are irrational. Brilliant. :roll:

The vast majority of women do not walk around alone and drunk at night. But there are actual statistics and information to support that this is unsafe. Again, no statistics at all to support that having a transgendered woman in a women's locker room is unsafe.
 
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The vast majority of women do not walk around alone and drunk at night. But there are actual statistics and information to support that this is unsafe.

Yet you show none... :lol:

And I clearly said the vast MINORITY of women THAT DO WALK ALONE AT NIGHT but you are showing something I have never seen of you before... intellectual dishonesty.
 
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Better than posting a couple of random pics about whoever they are as an argument. I have biological facts backing me. What do you have?

Except we don't determine in real life who uses which restroom by actual biology, but rather by how people look, their appearances. Those pictures prove it because almost everyone on here arguing about this would have stopped the first person from entering that female restroom and been shocked as hell to see the second in a male restroom. No one checks for the physical presence of a penis or vagina to determine which locker room or restroom a person uses. And DNA would be too expensive to actually check.
 
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Except we don't determine in real life who uses which restroom by actual biology, but rather by how people look, their appearances. Those pictures prove it because almost everyone on here arguing about this would have stopped the first person from entering that female restroom and been shocked as hell to see the second in a male restroom. No one checks for the physical presence of a penis or vagina to determine which locker room or restroom a person uses. And DNA would be too expensive to actually check.

I admit that some do look like the oppsite gender the fact is that the posted pics could be anybody and literally mean NOTHING...
 
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Yet you show none... :lol:

And I clearly said the vast MINORITY of women THAT DO WALK ALONE AT NIGHT but you are showing something I have never seen of you before... intellectual dishonesty.

You said "the vast minority of women... are not attacked" indicating that a majority of women are attacked who walk around alone at night, at least that is how I read it, hence my response. No dishonesty. For one thing, this isn't true. Not many women comparably speaking are attacked even if they walk alone at night drunk. While doing this puts them at a higher risk for attack, attacks are still less likely to happen than to not be attacked.

Here's the evidence that alcohol contributes to the risk of sexual assault.

Alcohol and Sexual Assault

Conservative estimates of sexual assault prevalence suggest that 25 percent of American women have experienced sexual assault, including rape. Approximately one-half of those cases involve alcohol consumption by the perpetrator, victim, or both. Alcohol contributes to sexual assault through multiple pathways, often exacerbating existing risk factors.

Now, where would be the evidence that a transgendered person in the locker room or even a policy that allows people to use the restroom/locker room of the sex/gender they identify as increases risk of sexual assault or harassment?
 
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I admit that some do look like the oppsite gender the fact is that the posted pics could be anybody and literally mean NOTHING...

The fact is that you don't know and people make assumptions about gender almost exclusively based on looks, not actual physical aspects of sex, and especially not DNA.
 
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You said "the vast minority of women... are not attacked" indicating that a majority of women are attacked who walk around alone at night, at least that is how I read it, hence my response. No dishonesty. For one thing, this isn't true. Not many women comparably speaking are attacked even if they walk alone at night drunk. While doing this puts them at a higher risk for attack, attacks are still less likely to happen than to not be attacked.

Here's the evidence that alcohol contributes to the risk of sexual assault.

I obviously meant majority... dyslexia. Sue me.

Now, where would be the evidence that a transgendered person in the locker room or even a policy that allows people to use the restroom/locker room of the sex/gender they identify as increases risk of sexual assault or harassment?

Why do you insist on this pathetic "danger" bull ****... it is beneath you, or so I thought. Years of belief coming undone in one thread...
 
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The fact is that you don't know and people make assumptions about gender almost exclusively based on looks, not actual physical aspects of sex, and especially not DNA.

The question is THAT MAN. You seem to pick and choose when you will acknowledge this fact though... He is a big hairy man in a woman's locker room.

Go ahead and ignore that ****ing fact again though. :roll:
 
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I obviously meant majority... dyslexia. Sue me.

Why do you insist on this pathetic "danger" bull ****... it is beneath you, or so I thought. Years of belief coming undone in one thread...

Because that is what we base laws on, what the claim has been, that transgendered women using the women's restroom/locker room poses a danger to cisgendered women. Otherwise, discomfort and even "privacy" is not a valid argument. You can't claim a right to privacy from only one sex or gender of people, especially not in a public restroom or locker room that is not going to be private. The only privacy right you have is to be able to not let anyone, no matter their sex/gender see you naked if you don't wish them to, which is what stalls provide.
 
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The question is THAT MAN. You seem to pick and choose when you will acknowledge this fact though... He is a big hairy man in a woman's locker room.

Go ahead and ignore that ****ing fact again though. :roll:

And there are "big, hairy" women in this world. There are women who naturally look like men.
 
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Because that is what we base laws on, what the claim has been, that transgendered women using the women's restroom/locker room poses a danger to cisgendered women. Otherwise, discomfort and even "privacy" is not a valid argument. You can't claim a right to privacy from only one sex or gender of people, especially not in a public restroom or locker room that is not going to be private. The only privacy right you have is to be able to not let anyone, no matter their sex/gender see you naked if you don't wish them to, which is what stalls provide.


It is valid if people don't want others in their locker room... and I have shown stats, lets see how you respond to that.
 
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And there are "big, hairy" women in this world. There are women who naturally look like men.

Retarded... a woman is not a man. Try again and stop with the stupid bull****.
 
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Retarded... a woman is not a man. Try again and stop with the stupid bull****.

It doesn't matter if they aren't "a man". Women do not see people naked in restrooms. And even in locker rooms, you aren't going to see very much nakedness and there are rooms available to change in for privacy if they have an issue with either people seeing you naked or you seeing others naked.
 
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It doesn't matter if they aren't "a man". Women do not see people naked in restrooms. And even in locker rooms, you aren't going to see very much nakedness and there are rooms available to change in for privacy if they have an issue with either people seeing you naked or you seeing others naked.

This lady and those she talked to say this man in the room... wanna try again?

...see you just have your nudist mentality and want to apply it to everybody and IGNORE my posts about statistics... lame. :roll:
 
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It is valid if people don't want others in their locker room... and I have shown stats, lets see how you respond to that.

No, you haven't provided stats of danger, only that people feel uncomfortable getting naked around anyone. Even in bootcamp, the majority of girls are not comfortable even with getting naked in front of other women. That discomfort is still their issue.

And the reality is that it is not "their" locker room. The locker room is owned by the company, not the people using it. And there are women who don't care.
 
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This lady and those she talked to say this man in the room... wanna try again?

...see you just have your nudist mentality and want to apply it to everybody and IGNORE my posts about statistics... lame. :roll:

So what? She could have easily been wrong because she still based it off of observations rather than seeing a penis or having a DNA profile of that person, hell even having seen either the person's birth certificate or legal gender.

The facts are though that she does not own the locker room, the gym does. They get to decide the policy for who is allowed in, not her or other women. If they don't approve of the policy, they are free to find another gym. Many gyms and businesses though are going to this policy, where transgendered people can use the locker room/changing room/restroom of the gender they identify as, especially if their appearance is of that gender.
 
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