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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I respect who I want to respect and can be a hypocrite as much as I wish.

So you won't call me god? Well, that is just mean. :(
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

1.)I think you are purposefully missing the point to make a lazy comparison.
2.)I can walk around with a black wife, you don't have to accept it..... I don't care, that's your right and as long as you don't interfere with MY rights we wont have a problem.
3.)Now, if I am born a boy, and make myself look like a girl, replete with elective surgery, for me to DEMAND that you let me in the little girls room becomes a demand that I accept your modifications as a change in biological sex, which it is not.
4.)but then again, as a libertarian, if some douchebag business wants to ban mixed race couples he should be able to. again, I'd rather know which businesses are racist for real so I can not give them my money.... but I digress.
5.)as for the medical community, take a look at alcoholics, and the Sinclair method. why isn't that accepted over here over the 12 step program? Apparently it's peer reviewed, it's based on some very interesting science, yet it's acceptance here, is minimal.
6.)the point is, the medical community can be wrong. and I can't accept that "the majority" of the "medical community" think "Gender re-asignment" is the best course of action, you would have to show me this.

1.) no im the only one staying on the point, you claimed force of acceptance, there is none
2.) 100% correct
3.) 100% false again the is not forced acceptance or demand, if this becomes national it will be a RIGHT and while you are in the girls bathroom I still factually 100% do NOT have to accept you are a girl, im am still free to think otherwise

just like with your black wife, using your own false and dramatic words you could come to my hospital and DEMAND that you get marriage privileges and it becomes a demand that accept your marriage as real

LOL see how easy that is, but the reality is i dont have to accept either, you are simply 100% wrong claiming there is a farce of acceptance

in fact this very board proves it, there are people here that will NEVER accept that you are a woman if you have the surgery and there will be ZERO force to make them accept it, they will live and die NOT accepting it

4.) this is simply off topic but for the record of course i dont agree, I like having peoples rights protected and a level of civility
5.) i dont need to olok at anything it wont change the fact that the majority disagree with you opinion
6.) yes they can be but in this case they made PROGRESS here and its newer not older and for your evidence simply look at orgs like the APA etc. You know orgs that basically oversee this stuff.
ALso dont change my words i NEVER said the majority think that gender reassignment is the best course of action for all, i simply said the majority do NOT think these people are how you described them, and that is true :D
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

1.)Since you don't seem to be getting an answer to this, allow me to explain what each party SHOULD have done.
2.)For Planet Fitness:
A. They should have immediately kicked the mentally deranged freakshow out of the building. Not the dressing room, the building.
B. They should have apologized to the woman (who was doing nothing wrong) for the oversight in allowing a man into her dressing room.
C. They should have given the woman anywhere between a free month and a free year to the gym for said oversight.
D. They should have made a press release stating that the delusional 0.3% are not allowed in EITHER dressing room, and they should stay at home out of sight where they belong.

3.)For the Woman:
A.). Nothing. She didn't do anything wrong.


4.) For the deranged Man:
A.). 'Ze' should have driven to the hospital and checked into the psych ward instead of going to the gym.
B.). If 'ze' truly felt 'ze' needed to go to the gym, then 'ze' should have stayed the **** out of the women's dressing room.
C.) At the very least 'ze' should go find a quack doctor stupid enough to chop his junk off so the rest of humanity doesn't have to deal with any of 'hir's' offspring. Better yet, 'ze' should just kill itself like the vast majority of mentally ill trannies thankfully do.

1.) thank you please share your OPINION with me
2.) oh so you want to invent things and change history . . .lol ok lets address them
A.) there was no mentally deranged freakshow in the building to kick out nor did anybody break any rules but thank you for posting an example of bigotry
B.) the lady was apologized too but there was no oversight, nobody did anythign wrong initially. PF's policies and rules were intact
c.) again there was no oversight
D.) again another perfect example of bigotry, thank you. Also what you speck of wasnt present at PF lol

3.) ok the woman
A.) initially she did not, later own she broke the rules of PF

4.) there is no proof that there was any deranged man present, please stick to the topic and facts and not bigoted judgments
A.) Bigotry opinion #4
B.) no need since the person followed policy and rules
c.) Bigotry opinion #5

thank you so much for that and those perfect examples of bigotry.

so basically you feel PF should void all its rules that it made and just listen to the lady and let her make the rules for them and the guy should kill himself . . very insightful.
This is a perfect example of what bigoted views looks like.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

so basically you feel PF should void all its rules that it made and just listen to the lady and let her make the rules for them and the guy should kill himself . . very insightful.

I think that PF should not cater to the tiny 0.3% minority that are deranged freakshows.

This is a perfect example of what bigoted views looks like.

You have called me a bigot 7 times now. Since we're apparently doing the personal attack game, I guess I'll just say your above post is a perfect example of what a whiney faggot looks like.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

She is identifying as a woman, meaning she wants to be treated as such.

So then how do you identify a man or a woman by DNA if everyone has male and female sex chromosomes, the criteria that some in this thread have given for what makes a man a man or a woman a woman?

I identify as a woman as well.



Where's YOUR locker room? I'd like to come hang out....
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

You have called me a bigot 7 times now. Since we're apparently doing the personal attack game, I guess I'll just say your above post is a perfect example of what a whiney faggot looks like.

Standard wrong-wing practice. When hopelessly losing an argument, they resort to accusing those to whom they are losing of being bigots. No neec to sink to their level. Just know that when a wrong-winger calls you a bigot, it means you're winning, or at least that he knows that he's hopelessly losing.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I identify as a woman as well.



Where's YOUR locker room? I'd like to come hang out....

You have read about how I have changed with men before, correct? I wouldn't be bothered by changing in a coed locker room. I also have a transgendered sister.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Sorry for your loss.

No loss. She's wonderful.

Showing this false sympathy toward me as if I lost someone is highly disrespectful.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

You have read about how I have changed with men before, correct? I wouldn't be bothered by changing in a coed locker room. I also have a transgendered sister.

Just because you are comfortable changing with members of the opposite sex, doesn't mean everyone is.

That makes it a little easier to understand your position.
 
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Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I identify as a woman as well.



Where's YOUR locker room? I'd like to come hang out....

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I don't think you need to go that far. She already said she has no problem undressing in front of men.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

That makes it a little easier to understand your position.

Not a secret. I've said many times that I was raised by a mother who taught us the body is just a body. It is personal, learned insecurities that lead people to think there is something always sexual about seeing someone else in general or just someone of the opposite sex naked. Those insecurities need to be challenged especially when they lead to stupid rules or laws. (I have a huge issue with laws that make public nakedness a sex offense. It is those who want to see it as sexual that should be questioning why they view just the naked body as sexual, rather than looking at the intent.)
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Not a secret. I've said many times that I was raised by a mother who taught us the body is just a body. It is personal, learned insecurities that lead people to think there is something always sexual about seeing someone else in general or just someone of the opposite sex naked. Those insecurities need to be challenged especially when they lead to stupid rules or laws. (I have a huge issue with laws that make public nakedness a sex offense. It is those who want to see it as sexual that should be questioning why they view just the naked body as sexual, rather than looking at the intent.)

I'm sorry, I meant the fact that you have a transgendered sibling.

I respect your mother's choice to raise you in the manner she saw fit, but perhaps you should consider the wishes of other parents as well. Modesty is not necessarily a bad thing.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

I'm sorry, I meant the fact that you have a transgendered sibling.

I respect your mother's choice to raise you in the manner she saw fit, but perhaps you should consider the wishes of other parents as well. Modesty is not necessarily a bad thing.

Modesty can be accomplished by using a stall to hide your body from everyone, including those of the same gender. There is no real difference between someone of the same sex or someone of the opposite sex seeing you naked except in your own mind.

I would feel the same if I didn't have a trans sister. She told us only about thirteen years ago she felt that way. My family proved how well we could take such an announcement and how naive we were about sexuality at that time by having just one question for her (at least both my mom and I did), "I thought you liked girls?", which got the response, "I Do!". Then we adjusted.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

1.)I think that PF should not cater to the tiny 0.3% minority that are deranged freakshows.

2.)You have called me a bigot 7 times now.
3.) Since we're apparently doing the personal attack game
4.) I guess I'll just say your above post is a perfect example of what a whiney faggot looks like.

1.) LOL thank you again for another example of a severely hateful, bigoted comment
2.) actually i havent call you a bigot even once. SO thats a lie or a mistake by you. What I did say is that some of your statements were perfect examples of bigoted views. That is simply a fact based on the definition of the word. If that bothers you its a very easy solution, simply refrain from posting factually bigoted views and people won't point that fact out.
3.) once again you are mistaken i have personally attacked you once.
4.) awesome, ANOTHER perfect example of a hateful, bigoted comment
also a very illogical one that makes no sense and very telling one, please keep up the good work. THank you! LMAO
 
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1.) no im the only one staying on the point, you claimed force of acceptance, there is none
2.) 100% correct
3.) 100% false again the is not forced acceptance or demand, if this becomes national it will be a RIGHT and while you are in the girls bathroom I still factually 100% do NOT have to accept you are a girl, im am still free to think otherwise


So, If I simply prolcaim myself a girl, it will be my right to loiter in womens locker rooms?

just like with your black wife, using your own false and dramatic words you could come to my hospital and DEMAND that you get marriage privileges and it becomes a demand that accept your marriage as real


14th amendment, certified marriages, not so much.


LOL see how easy that is, but the reality is i dont have to accept either, you are simply 100% wrong claiming there is a farce of acceptance

in fact this very board proves it, there are people here that will NEVER accept that you are a woman if you have the surgery and there will be ZERO force to make them accept it, they will live and die NOT accepting it


yet, when a 230lb man who thinks hes a woman enters a womans locker room where a 100lb female is changing, I am sure she will feel comfort in knowing the law says he's now a she.


4.) this is simply off topic but for the record of course i dont agree, I like having peoples rights protected and a level of civility

I prefer making racists have as hard a time as we can possibly give them, by self identifying I know who not to give my money too.


5.) i dont need to olok at anything it wont change the fact that the majority disagree with you opinion

Fallacy: Appeal to Popularity

6.) yes they can be but in this case they made PROGRESS here and its newer not older and for your evidence simply look at orgs like the APA etc. You know orgs that basically oversee this stuff.

ALso dont change my words i NEVER said the majority think that gender reassignment is the best course of action for all, i simply said the majority do NOT think these people are how you described them, and that is true :D



You are changing your point now, can you please exand on what you mean>?
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

1.)So, If I simply prolcaim myself a girl, it will be my right to loiter in womens locker rooms?
2.)14th amendment, certified marriages, not so much.
3.)yet, when a 230lb man who thinks hes a woman enters a womans locker room where a 100lb female is changing, I am sure she will feel comfort in knowing the law says he's now a she.
4.)I prefer making racists have as hard a time as we can possibly give them, by self identifying I know who not to give my money too.
5.)Fallacy: Appeal to Popularity





You are changing your point now, can you please exand on what you mean>?

1.) good lord you jump around a lot and change subtopics lol
there is no right to be in any locker room but that has nothing to do with the fact there is no forced acceptance.
2.) thank you for proving my point and your claim wrong. Yes those things you mentioned exist yet the fact remains people do not accept it and arent forced too. Thanks! Now you get it
3.) I dont care about her "feelings"
people FEEL uncomfortable with other people, genders, races, religions, abilities, strangers, etc etc all meaningless and has zero impact on the fact theres no force
4.) and like i said i prefer having peoples rights protected, also i dont believe that will make it harder for them in the least, you will be allowing them to do something they WANT, violate peoples rights. No thanks
5.) LMAO complete and utter fail since we are talking about doctors.
The majority believe in gravity too, guess i should ignore it because thats an appeal to popularity:lamo
6.) I havent changed it once, so theres no need, feel free to explain where your mistake is and where you are confused though
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

1.) good lord you jump around a lot and change subtopics lol
there is no right to be in any locker room but that has nothing to do with the fact there is no forced acceptance.
2.) thank you for proving my point and your claim wrong. Yes those things you mentioned exist yet the fact remains people do not accept it and arent forced too. Thanks! Now you get it
3.) I dont care about her "feelings"
people FEEL uncomfortable with other people, genders, races, religions, abilities, strangers, etc etc all meaningless and has zero impact on the fact theres no force
4.) and like i said i prefer having peoples rights protected, also i dont believe that will make it harder for them in the least, you will be allowing them to do something they WANT, violate peoples rights. No thanks
5.) LMAO complete and utter fail since we are talking about doctors.
The majority believe in gravity too, guess i should ignore it because thats an appeal to popularity:lamo
6.) I havent changed it once, so theres no need, feel free to explain where your mistake is and where you are confused though





This dismissive retort, suggests to me, we are at an impasse. thanks for the discussion.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

This dismissive retort, suggests to me, we are at an impasse. thanks for the discussion.
LOL I accept your concession but please let me know when you can actually defend and support your claim that there is forced acceptance. You're welcome and I thank you also!
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

LOL I accept your concession but please let me know when you can actually defend and support your claim that there is forced acceptance. You're welcome and I thank you also!


Whatever gets you by my friend. :thumbs:
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Whatever gets you by my friend. :thumbs:

THANKS! dont forget let me know when you have something that shows force! ;)
 
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