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Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint[W:245:463:992]

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Clearly he was calling you out for projecting your own moral high ground, but you were just too blinded by hypocrisy to comprehend.

What hypocricy? Asking people to be considerate of others
 
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This cracks me up!
I read a couple articles on this and Planet Fitness did the right thing. After the lady was notified of the companies [sic] policy, not only from the front desk but from headquarters she had two choices. Stop going or accept the policy. To continue to complain and demand special treatment

Since when is it “demanding special treatment” for a women to expect that there will not be men in what is supposedly a women's locker room when she is expected to be undressing therein?


if the policy bothers you that's a good move on your part, you did the right thing unlike this lady.
Had she just cancelled her membership, or changed in a private stall or not harassed other members per the gyms and members request she wouldn't have gotten hers cancelled.

How twisted has our society become, when it can be considered “harassment” for a women to object to a man being in a women's-only locker room, but that man's presence is not considered to be harassment against all the women undressing there in his unwanted and inappropriate presence?
 
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According to the tasgendered woman who assumes she is the person at issue since she is the only trans woman she knows of in that small 41K person city, she went in the lockerroom twice on two different visits--once to hang up her coat and store her purse, and once to retrieve them during each visit, and she isn't even a member at the gym but was there as someone's guest. Transgender woman in Planet Fitness locker room controversy says she used it twice to hang up coat, purse | MLive.com
 
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What hypocricy? Asking people to be considerate of others

By foolishly believing your perception of locker room norms have some sort of feasance on the gyms policy. Nobody is forcing you to send your children to planet fitness.

Secondly, anyone under the age of 16 must be accompanied by an adult, as is the case in nearly every other gym in the country. Your plea to save the children is a worthless strawman.

Perhaps you are confused with the YMCA.
 
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By foolishly believing your perception of locker room norms have some sort of feasance on the gyms policy. Nobody is forcing you to send your children to planet fitness.

Secondly, anyone under the age of 16 must be accompanied by an adult, as is the case in nearly every other gym in the country. Your plea to save the children is a worthless strawman.

Perhaps you are confused with the YMCA.

WTF are you on about?
 
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Scary stuff. As a 27 year old with both liberal and conservative views I can safely say that if political liberalism has a "Never Press This Button: Self Destruction Imminent" it's the transgender issue in relation to the public. It truly has the potential to be the end all be all for the left if these kinds disasters become commonplace. I can safely say that well over 95% of people in leftist circles, even among the young, are totally opposed to the transgender movement. It's simply a stroke too far. Some transformations simply need to be kept out of public. There's a limit before you are basically asking for the return of Nazi Germany Esq parties. Transgenderism is that limit. It has the potential to literally undo all the left gains in one very foul swoop.


As a person with some leftist views, I can say that the entire notion of transgenders being a legitimate movement is bankrupt. It isn't. That's never going to be politically or even societal viable. It should be opposed strongly within the left.
 
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1.)Since when is it “demanding special treatment” for a women to expect that there will not be men in what is supposedly a women's locker room when she is expected to be undressing therein?
2.) How twisted has our society become, when it can be considered “harassment” for a women to object to a man being in a women's-only locker room, but that man's presence is not considered to be harassment against all the women undressing there in his unwanted and inappropriate presence?

1.) easy, no matter how you try to falsely word the reality is she wanted corporate policies changed just for her feelings, thats special treatment.
and she had the option of not going in when that person is or going in the private stall etc but she wanted that forced on the other person . . again special treatment
2.) the harassment was her bothering other members hence why they complained. AGain you can try to word it how you want but reality doesnt change for your extra sensitive feelings
glad i could clear up your mistakes for you bob.
 
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WTF are you on about?

You are acting like a drama queen, bringing up hypothetical situations that are not even likely to occur, e.g. what about the children?
 
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Scary stuff. As a 27 year old with both liberal and conservative views I can safely say that if political liberalism has a "Never Press This Button: Self Destruction Imminent" it's the transgender issue in relation to the public. It truly has the potential to be the end all be all for the left if these kinds disasters become commonplace. I can safely say that well over 95% of people in leftist circles, even among the young, are totally opposed to the transgender movement. It's simply a stroke too far. Some transformations simply need to be kept out of public. There's a limit before you are basically asking for the return of Nazi Germany Esq parties. Transgenderism is that limit. It has the potential to literally undo all the left gains in one very foul swoop.


As a person with some leftist views, I can say that the entire notion of transgenders being a legitimate movement is bankrupt. It isn't. That's never going to be politically or even societal viable. It should be opposed strongly within the left.

95% huh? sure buddy
 
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You are acting like a drama queen, bringing up hypothetical situations that are not even likely to occur, e.g. what about the children?
Okay, not hypothetical at all, seen kids in all kids of gyms, been in gyms with adults and kids my whole life. Must've imagined all that. Carry on with teh ego trip there bub.
 
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Okay, not hypothetical at all, seen kids in all kids of gyms, been in gyms with adults and kids my whole life. Must've imagined all that. Carry on with teh ego trip there bub.

It is common for teenagers under 16 to be accompanied by a chaperoning adult, but you won't find many gyms that allow children (your word, not mine) in the locker rooms unattended, much less in the gym itself. Unless you are talking about the YMCA with a day long active child care unit?

I am positive you can go to the young men's christian association and not have to worry about this sort of thing.
 
Re: Planet Fitness Revokes Woman's Membership After Transgender Complaint

Scary stuff. As a 27 year old with both liberal and conservative views I can safely say that if political liberalism has a "Never Press This Button: Self Destruction Imminent" it's the transgender issue in relation to the public. It truly has the potential to be the end all be all for the left if these kinds disasters become commonplace. I can safely say that well over 95% of people in leftist circles, even among the young, are totally opposed to the transgender movement. It's simply a stroke too far. Some transformations simply need to be kept out of public. There's a limit before you are basically asking for the return of Nazi Germany Esq parties. Transgenderism is that limit. It has the potential to literally undo all the left gains in one very foul swoop.


As a person with some leftist views, I can say that the entire notion of transgenders being a legitimate movement is bankrupt. It isn't. That's never going to be politically or even societal viable. It should be opposed strongly within the left.

Could you tell us what factually the "transgender movement" is I'm not familiar with it
 
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From <a story on the Daily Fail>, here are a few pictures of the “transgender woman” who apparently started this whole mess…

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Who is he really fooling? That's a man's face, a man's arms, a man's legs, a man's body. He's wearing a wig, women's clothes, and a poorly-fitting padded bra, but anyone can see that this is not a woman.

He's a man. A rather creepy-looking man at that. I am sure he'd still look almost as creepy even if he wasn't in drag.

He has no business being in a women's locker room, period. Any woman should be alarmed and disturbed to find him in a locker room where she intends to undress. Mrs. Cormier was perfectly right and reasonable to make a fuss over this, and Planet Fitness was totally wrong to dismiss her concerns.

And as an added twist, it turns out that this guy isn't even a member of Planet Fitness. He was there as a guest of another member. So Planet Fitness chose to sacrifice a paying member to cater to a perverted freak that wasn't a paying member. STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!
 
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From <a story on the Daily Fail>, here are a few pictures of the “transgender woman” who apparently started this whole mess…

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Who is he really fooling? That's a man's face, a man's arms, a man's legs, a man's body. He's wearing a wig, women's clothes, and a poorly-fitting padded bra, but anyone can see that this is not a woman.

He's a man. A rather creepy-looking man at that. I am sure he'd still look almost as creepy even if he wasn't in drag.

He has no business being in a women's locker room, period. Any woman should be alarmed and disturbed to find him in a locker room where she intends to undress. Mrs. Cormier was perfectly right and reasonable to make a fuss over this, and Planet Fitness was totally wrong to dismiss her concerns.

And as an added twist, it turns out that this guy isn't even a member of Planet Fitness. He was there as a guest of another member. So Planet Fitness chose to sacrifice a paying member to cater to a perverted freak that wasn't a paying member. STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!



you are aware there are many manly looking "ugly" women who are born that way too right? do they not get to go in the ladies room?


as to Planet Fitness, to quote a typical conservative meme "they make a hell of a lot more money than you do. they know better about business."
 
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Could you tell us what factually the "transgender movement" is I'm not familiar with it
It's a "social movement seeking transgender rights and affirming transgender pride." Do you also need us to define transgender for you, or do you have that one covered?
 
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you are aware there are many manly looking "ugly" women who are born that way too right? do they not get to go in the ladies room?


as to Planet Fitness, to quote a typical conservative meme "they make a hell of a lot more money than you do. they know better about business."

I don't like to use the word “ugly” to describe women who fail to to fit my accepted notion of beauty. But I do know enough to know the difference between such a woman, and a man in very poor drag. The person pictured here is very clearly, undeniably the latter.

I have to admit that I have seen some pictures of men who were in drag (or at least that was what they were claimed to be) that were convincing enough that I really couldn't claim to know for sure, but these pictures certainly to not meet that description. There is no question, looking at those pictures, that the person shown therein is male.
 
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From <a story on the Daily Fail>, here are a few pictures of the “transgender woman” who apparently started this whole mess…

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Who is he really fooling? That's a man's face, a man's arms, a man's legs, a man's body. He's wearing a wig, women's clothes, and a poorly-fitting padded bra, but anyone can see that this is not a woman.

He's a man. A rather creepy-looking man at that. I am sure he'd still look almost as creepy even if he wasn't in drag.

He has no business being in a women's locker room, period. Any woman should be alarmed and disturbed to find him in a locker room where she intends to undress. Mrs. Cormier was perfectly right and reasonable to make a fuss over this, and Planet Fitness was totally wrong to dismiss her concerns.

And as an added twist, it turns out that this guy isn't even a member of Planet Fitness. He was there as a guest of another member. So Planet Fitness chose to sacrifice a paying member to cater to a perverted freak that wasn't a paying member. STUPID! STUPID! STUPID!

Gross.
 
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A modern take on a classic tale…

The Emperor thinks he's a woman. He “identifies” as female.

But because he's standing stark naked in front of us, we can all see the “boy parts” dangling between his legs.

We'd better speak of how spectacular the new clothes are that he's wearing, because if we say that we see no clothes on him at all, we'll be judged to be stupid or unfit for our posts.

And we'd better not remark on the obvious proof of his true sex that we see before us, or else we'll be judged to be ignorant, uneducated, bigoted, transphobic, or whatever.

We live in a society of fools, who will play along with what we know very well to be a lie, rather than risk the condemnation with which we've been threatened to deter us from speaking the truth.

May Laurence Tureaud have compassion on each and every one of us who is too stupid and/or too cowardly to stand up and say what is obvious to all: The Emperor is stark naked. And he's male. And even if he is the Emperor, he has no business being in a women's locker room.
 
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I completely sympathize with you Mr. Vicchio.

Even though European, Asian and African parents are able to quite successfully explain this to their children, it must be very tough for you to replicate their advanced parenting skills.

Nudity is also pretty common in South America. In NA, it depends on the country and state. In the West Coast, people don't get offended over nudity. Same with Florida. It's when you get into the bible thumping areas that you get problems.
 
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So if some guy looking like the one in your avatar says he thinks he's a woman (sincerely) he's ok hanging in the womens locker room?

Yes. I let them into either restroom, fitting room where I work, as is corporate policy as well. And you don't even have to be transgender. A man can go into the fitting room with his mother, wife, girlfriend, whoever, and vice versa.
 
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Simpleχity;1064396175 said:
Planet Fitness has a right to set such corporate policy, but it is also liable for damages in a civil lawsuit for willful negligence should something unpleasant occur.

They would be no more liable here than if it were someone of the same sex attacking people in the locker rooms. This is a stupid assumption.
 
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Did she slander the MAN that was caught using the Womens dressing room ? How did she slander him ??

And expecting to feel safe, secure in a dressing room set up for your gender has nothing to do with bigotry. I thought people on the left were pro-women.

The Transgender community is trying to bully its way into relevance and or using guilt to force people into compliance and I guarantee, that's going to backfire. Calling people " bigots " and other hateful insults doesn't increase sympathy or awareness.

On the contrary. It instills a sense of contempt for a group of people who are in the extreme minority, which the Transgender community is. You may think your making progress, but the reality is your breeding contempt and complacency.

There was nothing " hateful " about what she did, but you have no problem throwing slanderous terms of our own to try and minimize her right to feel safe and secure in a WOMENS dressing room. That overt hypocrisy doesn't go unnoticed.

You will never get true equality and respect through bullying and calling people " bigots " and hateful. What you WILL do is create a new level of contempt that never existed before and it will based on the fact that the Transgender agenda involves pro-active insults and accusations that amount to bullying.

Assuming she would be attacked by the transgender woman was more likely than her being attacked or even sexually harassed/ogled by another woman was foolish. She basically suggested to others at that gym as well that this was likely. Almost certainly that is the case.
 
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After reading the linked article, I went straight to the Planet Fitness web site and cancelled my membership. It was not so much the cancelling of the lady's membership, it was the "whatever gender you feel you are, that's the locker room you're allowed to go in," policy that they responded to her with. That is taking political correctness to a rather stupid level....and at some point it will probably result in a lawsuit. Some male creep can simply walk into the womens locker room and leer at the ladies....then if confronted, simply say......I feel like a female today.

Then you should probably not shop at pretty much most stores in the US since many retail chains have basically the same policy for fitting rooms. And many don't care if you feel like the opposite gender of the fitting room you want to go into.
 
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From the Article:

"I wouldn't have signed up for this gym if I knew that ahead of time," Cormier said

Well, now she's not a member of that gym, so it sounds like she got what she wanted. Case closed.
 
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