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CNN: Feds prepare criminal corruption charges against Senator Bob Menendez

Oh like "inspections" have worked before.

Time to get real, Obama's ideas have all been tried, there is no negotiating with Iran, they will not obey the rules and they cannot ever be trusted for their word.

But claiming Bibi is lying in the face of thousands, thousands of lies after lies after bull**** after more lies is so ****ing lame as to be laughable. FFS you guys are so ****ing rattled by Netanyahu you are now claiming a decorated war hero is a "coward".

That's beyond desperate. The Obama camp has lost all concept of right and wrong. When you try to throw and ally under a bus with false and misleading charges of lying and being a coward, that's when I stop listening. The Obama camp is so devoid of a moral compass they will eat their young for a headline....

I know I want Canada out of Iraq NOW. Not because I disagree with the war, but I do not want my country in any association with the United States while Obama is in power, his obvious incompetence will cost Canadian lives and we will ultimately be thrown under a bus like the slithering misfits who support this horrible waste of skin you chose for president. If a mere speech can result in this kind of bull****, then it's time for Canada and the world to walk away until you elect someone sane.

FFS, Israel is an ally. Who the **** is the enemy in Obama's world? It appears to be in this order 1) Republicans, 2) Israel, 3) Canada, and so on, while ISIS are really nice people who just need a little understanding and jobs....if you don't mind the screams of people burning alive, and piles of heads missing bodies.

Have fun with the bus.....it will get really ****ing lonely though as nations say "**** you"

Glad you got that off your chest. Clearly bothering you.
I never ever stated, nor implied Bibi was a coward.
I stated he had lied for decades about Iran being near to a bomb. Bibi has Israels interests at heart - Not ours and he would throw whoever under the appropriate bus as needed.
Next - The Deal
If the deal does not have intrusive intersections - then no deal- let the Iranian economy crash- increase sanctions. Always my position
If the deal is a good one, then it must include intrusive inspections. Always my position
Sanctions are then suspended.
If problems arise due to non compliance they are then ready to implemented and can be within a very short time, if they are suspended.

Next- Israel- Palestinian peace deal
Iran is a key player.
If not, a deal starts to coalesce, Hezbollah or Hamas starts another war, no peace deal.

If Turkey and Saudi want regime change in Syria - let them do it.

Next- Obama, call him what you will, inherited 2 wars, the world community was against the US due to the Iraq invasion.
US citizens were tired of 2 wars that cost thousands of US soldiers lives, and the civilian death counts, and estimated at over US 4 trillion.

Next - Congress implemented sanctions, that were signed of by the President in office at that time.
New sanctions if a bad deal, will have enough votes to override a Presidential Veto.

So where do you stand on if no deal? Continue sanctions or start a limited bombing campaign?
 
Doesn't anyone wonder why now? What did Menendez do to draw the wrath?

He's been very critical of Obama on immigration, especially his crazy policy on Cuba. This is a very vindictive president we have, and he will go ahead and make an example of anyone that crosses him. Guarantee this never happens if Menendez agreed to step in line. The Justice Dept. is just another tool that he uses like a dictator.
 
He's been very critical of Obama on immigration, especially his crazy policy on Cuba. This is a very vindictive president we have, and he will go ahead and make an example of anyone that crosses him. Guarantee this never happens if Menendez agreed to step in line. The Justice Dept. is just another tool that he uses like a dictator.

Cuba was a failed policy-
He will have his day in court if indicted.
Lastly- Ya think all Senators are honest?
 
Has New Jersey ever managed to produce a non-corrupt politician?

Probably not. But then neither has Louisiana. Some states are just known for their corruption, and LA and NJ are at the top of that list.
 
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Color me surprized. I didn't think the Holder Justice Department would ever go after a fellow Democrat. Certainly not a sitting senator, anyway.

On the other hand, let's see if they actually file the charges.



I suppose that they will soon be indicting Hillary since she has openly admitted to violating the law with her emails.

Oh, wait! Has she opposed the Emperor's policies? If not she will be held harmless since we are no longer a country based on equality before the law.
 
For any Israeli -Palestinian peace deal, Lebanon, Hezbollah in particular and Hamas have to be neutralized- And as Iran is their supplier they play a part - Forced by sanctions is still forced.

Forcing Iran to stop fostering unrest is not the same thing as attempting to force peace. The two actions are worlds apart.
 
Forcing Iran to stop fostering unrest is not the same thing as attempting to force peace. The two actions are worlds apart.

They have to be enticed to the table. If the Nuke deal comes off, there may be a possibility- either way, if they are against it, their Proxies will cause a war, interrupting any peace deal.
And Hezbollah is more of a threat than Hamas, imho.
 
They have to be enticed to the table. If the Nuke deal comes off, there may be a possibility- either way, if they are against it, their Proxies will cause a war, interrupting any peace deal.
And Hezbollah is more of a threat than Hamas, imho.

Heya JF. :2wave: Well aren't the Egyptians helping to put Hamas in check? Plus they are also against Iran getting any Nuke. Which if the Saud gets theirs.....you can count on Egypt getting them one too.
 
I am quite happy about this, mainly because I hate Menendez. I wish him the worst. ;)
 
Heya JF. :2wave: Well aren't the Egyptians helping to put Hamas in check? Plus they are also against Iran getting any Nuke. Which if the Saud gets theirs.....you can count on Egypt getting them one too.

Yes they declared Hamas, part of the Muslim Brotherhood as shall we say, not welcome.
Egypt is aslo heavily dependent upon Israel for NG.
 
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