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Former CIA Head David Petraeus to Plead Guilty.....

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Well Team BO pressed the charges against General Petraeus. A Decorated American Hero. Got him to cop to a plea for lying to Federal Investigators and mishandling classified information. What do you think about this? Is BO getting some revenge on the Repubs again?




Decorated war veteran and former CIA director David Petraeus has entered into an agreement with federal prosecutors in which he would plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge for mishandling classified information. Specifically, the charge is unauthorized removal and retention of classified material. The charge stems, in part, from documents the former director allegedly provided to his mistress.

Contacted by ABC News, Petraeus’ attorney, David Kendall said he had “no comment” on the guilty plea.....snip~

Former CIA Head David Petraeus to Plead Guilty
 
Uhm, didn't Representative Chaffetz speak out about prosecuting The General, and going after him?
I'll take your words for it.
But the question remains.
Is the entirety of the harm against the GOP Chaffetz ostensibly losing some face?
 
I'll take your words for it.
But the question remains.
Is the entirety of the harm against the GOP Chaffetz ostensibly losing some face?


This does go back some time and has lingered on and on. It also has to deal with Benghazi. You don't think it is a slight to the GOP and a few others that spoke out about the Generals Reputation?



Utah's Chaffetz Wants Answers in Petraeus Probe.....

"Why is this investigation still ongoing?" Chaffetz wrote. "When will the investigation conclude? What are the issues still in question?" "It's been nearly two years since the investigation started on Gen. Petraeus. If there is something serious and sinister, then let Congress know," Chaffetz told Fox. "If not, give this man's reputation back. But I worry that the White House is just holding this over his head to keep him quiet." Chaffetz pondered whether the explanation for the lagging investigation might be tied to "the administration's flawed public narrative about the Benghazi terror attack."

"In the context of Benghazi, Gen. Petraeus knows a lot about what happened with those talking points, what was going on there at the CIA," Chaffetz said. "But he's now in silence mode because of this investigation. We want to get that done. I worry that the investigation is being held over his head to keep him quiet. And that isn't right." ....snip~



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Well Team BO pressed the charges against General Petraeus. A Decorated American Hero. Got him to cop to a plea for lying to Federal Investigators and mishandling classified information. What do you think about this? Is BO getting some revenge on the Repubs again?

No, I think this was expected. As far as I know Petraeus did not "mishandle" classified information for some honorable or whistle blower intention. He just gave what he should not have to his mistress. It makes his decorated American Hero past also come with a tarnish that was entirely of his own doing. He still had a largely honorable career, but with one hell of a mistake.

Petraeus should have been more cautious, and engaged in better handling of what he was charged with. If he had, little of this would have happened and all we would be talking about is another man of power who kept a mistress.

I do not think there is enough here to make this all about Obama, or all about some Dem vs. GOP antics. Petraeus is not some innocent bystander caught up in today's politics. Very sad times indeed...
 
Generals in the US military do this all the time as in every military.
 
You don't think it is a slight to the GOP and a few others that spoke out about the Generals Reputation?
Feel free to make the case that Petraeus is being prosecuted to slight the GOP.

Generals in the US military do this all the time as in every military.
If we accept your say-so, is your advice that we should ignore or condone such activity?
Or are just posting a general lament?
 
Feel free to make the case that Petraeus is being prosecuted to slight the GOP.


If we accept your say-so, is your advice that we should ignore or condone such activity?
Or are just posting a general lament?


Well I did ask a question. That's what that lil mark is at the end. I didn't think it would be to difficult to come up with a yes or no. or I don't know answer.

But then....you didn't think Chaffetz said anything over it anyways.
 
If we accept your say-so, is your advice that we should ignore or condone such activity?
Or are just posting a general lament?


Just saying be a realist. This stuff happens everywhere. Business, Schools among staff, at hospitals, at pizza eateries and inside every military the world over and even in church offices! I'd say for every person in a position of substantive power, both men and women, the average person would simply be FLOORED at the sexual stuff that goes on. It's just a fact of life. Often times it's the last person in an organization you'd think it to be. That 'Good Conservative' isn't always such a good man or woman. Again that's why I don't advocate fully investing in any one spectrum of thought and ideology. It isn't a good bet.

Let's put it this way, if every HR Department was opened to the public half of all employed people would be unemployed the next day. The world is a lot more wild than you think.
 
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Generals in the US military do this all the time as in every military.


That's a liberal meme, careful, when using past bad behavior to justify current bad behavior. Besides, if the General did what they allege then he should be found guilty and made to account.

That's not a dem/gop thing, that's a LAW thing.

Tim-
 
Well Team BO pressed the charges against General Petraeus. A Decorated American Hero. Got him to cop to a plea for lying to Federal Investigators and mishandling classified information. What do you think about this? Is BO getting some revenge on the Repubs again?

No. It is likely a slap on the wrist to avoid a very very embarrassing situation for the U.S. government. Petraeus would know everything about Iraq and Afghanistan. If he were put on trial all of that could come out and he could go to prison for up to ten years

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense,
(1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or
(2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
 
No. It is likely a slap on the wrist to avoid a very very embarrassing situation for the U.S. government. Petraeus would know everything about Iraq and Afghanistan. If he were put on trial all of that could come out and he could go to prison for up to ten years


Evidently this works out with him taking the plea. As the deal will give him immunity from any future attempts at prosecuting him. Which includes any thing that he now testifies to when called by Gowdy.

Good thing Team BO isn't to smart.
 
Evidently this works out with him taking the plea. As the deal will give him immunity from any future attempts at prosecuting him. Which includes any thing that he now testifies to when called by Gowdy.

Good thing Team BO isn't to smart.

Things are unraveling at a pace they didn't foresee. I imagine Hillary will need a sleep aid tonight.
 
Evidently this works out with him taking the plea. As the deal will give him immunity from any future attempts at prosecuting him. Which includes any thing that he now testifies to when called by Gowdy.

Good thing Team BO isn't to smart.

I think I am missing something. Can you explain in greater detail what you mean?
 
I think I am missing something. Can you explain in greater detail what you mean?

It's called double jeopardy. Petraeus can't be prosecuted for the same crime twice. His testimony before Gowdy, should it happen, will be done with immunity from further prosecution, by law. This doesn't remove all contraints from Petraeus - he's still held to all other legal restraints not described in the complaint against him and those his former office requires, but it does give him far more latitude than he previously had.
 
I think I am missing something. Can you explain in greater detail what you mean?

He accepted a misdemeanor charge......they wont be able to come back and charge him for leaking any classified information. Not even if is on the stand.
 
It's called double jeopardy. Petraeus can't be prosecuted for the same crime twice. His testimony before Gowdy, should it happen, will be done with immunity from further prosecution, by law. This doesn't remove all contraints from Petraeus - he's still held to all other legal restraints not described in the complaint against him and those his former office requires, but it does give him far more latitude than he previously had.

He accepted a misdemeanor charge......they wont be able to come back and charge him for leaking any classified information. Not even if is on the stand.

So you are saying that he could still be called to testify and potentially talk about everything he knows concerning Afghanistan and Iraq, but would be immune from prosecution?
 
So you are saying that he could still be called to testify and potentially talk about everything he knows concerning Afghanistan and Iraq, but would be immune from prosecution?

Its exactly like HB said, they can't prosecute him or it would be double jeopardy.

Which Team BO isn't concerned about Iraq or Afghanistan. Its Benghazi.
 
So you are saying that he could still be called to testify and potentially talk about everything he knows concerning Afghanistan and Iraq, but would be immune from prosecution?

Yes, but that's not important. It's the testimony on Benghazi that is. Think "talking points".
 
Well Team BO pressed the charges against General Petraeus. A Decorated American Hero. Got him to cop to a plea for lying to Federal Investigators and mishandling classified information. What do you think about this? Is BO getting some revenge on the Repubs again?




Decorated war veteran and former CIA director David Petraeus has entered into an agreement with federal prosecutors in which he would plead guilty to a misdemeanor charge for mishandling classified information. Specifically, the charge is unauthorized removal and retention of classified material. The charge stems, in part, from documents the former director allegedly provided to his mistress.

Contacted by ABC News, Petraeus’ attorney, David Kendall said he had “no comment” on the guilty plea.....snip~

Former CIA Head David Petraeus to Plead Guilty

Good evening MMC

"Mishandling classified information" in the Obama era is only a crime or misdemeanor when not done by a member of the White House staff or not mishandled into the hands of a preferred White House media megaphone.

Nothing to see here - this is just another example of "prosecutorial discretion" as exercised by this President.
 
Good evening MMC

"Mishandling classified information" in the Obama era is only a crime or misdemeanor when not done by a member of the White House staff or not mishandled into the hands of a preferred White House media megaphone.

Nothing to see here - this is just another example of "prosecutorial discretion" as exercised by this President.

"Mishandling classified information" means CCIS is training them
 
It's called double jeopardy. Petraeus can't be prosecuted for the same crime twice. His testimony before Gowdy, should it happen, will be done with immunity from further prosecution, by law. This doesn't remove all contraints from Petraeus - he's still held to all other legal restraints not described in the complaint against him and those his former office requires, but it does give him far more latitude than he previously had.

Greetings, humbolt. :2wave:

I can't imagine him leaking information in a million years. He's too highly thought of by most people in this country as a thoroughly professional military man, and I still think of him that way, as a matter of fact! There must be something, but this is a shock to me! :shock:
 
Its exactly like HB said, they can't prosecute him or it would be double jeopardy.

Which Team BO isn't concerned about Iraq or Afghanistan. Its Benghazi.

Yes, but that's not important. It's the testimony on Benghazi that is. Think "talking points".

Yes Benghazi would certainly be of interest, but so would Afghanistan and Iraq from the perspective of the United States government in general. Although I see what you are saying here now, I still think that this possibly could be a slap on the wrist in return for cooperation from Petreus in these regards. In other words, we will give you a slap on the wrist to placate the public to show that we have done something, but in return don't spill the beans in regards to those subjects. But that is pure speculation on my part. I am not putting that forward as fact. Thanks to you both for clarifying and helping me understand that.
 
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