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ISIS Feeds dead son to his mother.

Jack Fabulous said:
I'm not. They're horrible.

I'm defending Christianity from the bull**** moral equivalency that you are trying to draw by desperately trying to convince people that the KKK is a Christian organization. It's dishonest as all get out and you should know better.
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That's actually the opposite of what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get you to apply the same standard to Islam as you do Christianity.
 
Deuce said:
That's actually the opposite of what I'm trying to do. I'm trying to get you to apply the same standard to Islam as you do Christianity.
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There is nothing inconsistent about my application of standards.
 
Travis007 said:
Liberals shilling for ISIS here..

color me shocked..

PS..the sotry is true and there are others like this
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You're mistaking "shilling for journalistic accuracy" for "shilling for ISIS."
 
Jack Fabulous said:
I'm not. They're horrible.

I'm defending Christianity from the bull**** moral equivalency that you are trying to draw by desperately trying to convince people that the KKK is a Christian organization. It's dishonest as all get out and you should know better.
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Yet in the KKK manual it clearly states that membership is only for Protestant Christians. And call themselves a "A Protestant Knighthood committed to the task of preserving, perpetuating, disseminating and establishing the principles of Protestantism throughout America." http://archive.lib.msu.edu/DMC/AmRad/klansmansmanual.pdf

The same manual also explains how their government is a military form of government. The grand wizard being the commander in chief. They point blankly call themselves militant.

So the KKK is Protestantism.
 
Bringing up the Klan is pretty pointless, even when right-wingers pull the usual crap.
 
Deuce said:
KKK Leader: 'We're a Christian Organization;' Claims the Klan Is Not a Hate Group
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Your link sort of demonstrates the exact opposite of your claim. The KKK is nothing like ISIS at all. What they are like is like the typical 'moderate muslim.' KKK wants to segregate by skin color and your typical muslim segregates by religion-often Sunni and Shia. ISIS wants to establish an Islamic state, ruled by Islamic law, inhabited only by those of the pure muslim faith. Their particular brand of evil is based entirely upon religion in general and Islam in particular. The KKK is an organization based upon racism, not religion. So arguing that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam is like arguing that the KKK has nothing to do with racism. And that's silly. ISIS is motivated by religion, the KKK by race.
 
Deuce said:
You don't think the KKK thought their actions were approved by God?
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I will try to spell this out for you...

ISIS lives to die...they believe killing and dying on earth is the pretext to fullfill Muhamud and Allahs wants

Christians live to live..and do not yearn to die or kill to please Jesus or God...


does any of this resonate with you
 
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soot said:
I don't!

And while for all practical purposes I suspect that this latest "news" (the thing about them feeding some kid to his mother) is fabricated I'll concede that it certainly isn't out of character for Daesh and might very well be true.

That said, so what?

While brutal, it isn't terrorism.

Nothing Daesh has done really rises to the level of terrorism (and certainly not the kind of terrorism we should be worried about).

They're more focused on establishing the Caliphate than on exporting terrorism to the West.

Though they may be an offshoot of an offshoot of al Qa'ida they're not... (drum roll please)... al Qa'ida (and weren't really even al Qa'ida to begin with, though they did hitch their wagon to that organization temporarily when/while it was expedient to do so).

Probably the worst thing we could do is anything that would drive Daesh and al Q back together and having both the near and far jihads organized/financed/run out of the same shop - and I think acting like they're essentially the same thing (The Terrorism!!!) certainly works more to their advantage in this respect than to ours.

As long as al-Baghdadi, and al-Zawahri are fighting each other for money/thugs/street cred they're doing part of the job for us.

I say **** the Arab/Muslim people that Daesh is currently preying on as they seek to establish their brand of Islamic hegemony on the little corner of the world they presently control (and to think that they're actually going to grow far beyond what they currently control is foolhardy at best).

Let them build their little empire and then let them consolidate Islamic extremism within it, and then once they mature into their next phase of development and start looking outward then we hammer their capitol with JDAMs and TLAMs and cut the head off the snake.

But to waste time/money/lives now in a further attempt to play wack-a-mole with people living in caves and mudbrick huts is just stupid.

If the Iraq and Syrian people have to play canary in the coal mine for the time being why should we care?
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Its not "terrorism"?.... I almost passed out
 
Travis007 said:
Its not "terrorism"?.... I almost passed out
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You understand that there's a difference between "terrorism" and being a ****ty person, right?
 
Travis007 said:
ISIS lives to die...
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I don't know where you read that.

Given your obvious access to the Internet it could have been just about anywhere.

But, pro tip, whatever your source was, don't go back there for information on radical Islamic fundamentalism.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Yet in the KKK manual it clearly states that membership is only for Protestant Christians. And call themselves a "A Protestant Knighthood committed to the task of preserving, perpetuating, disseminating and establishing the principles of Protestantism throughout America." http://archive.lib.msu.edu/DMC/AmRad/klansmansmanual.pdf

The same manual also explains how their government is a military form of government. The grand wizard being the commander in chief. They point blankly call themselves militant.

So the KKK is Protestantism.
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KKK is Christian, KKK is not representative of all of Christianity...

membership, maybe 5,000.


ISIS is Muslim, ISIS is not representative of all christianity.

Membership 200,000+, actively engaged in war, and has unkown number of sypmathizers.

now, are most muslims "Extremists"?

I guess that depends on what you count as "Extremist".

Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam - The Washington Post

I would say egyptian, and pakistani, 64% of them are for example.
 
soot said:
I don't know where you read that.

Given your obvious access to the Internet it could have been just about anywhere.

But, pro tip, whatever your source was, don't go back there for information on radical Islamic fundamentalism.
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where I read that?...

God give me strength...
 
soot said:
You understand that there's a difference between "terrorism" and being a ****ty person, right?
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Your posts are childish garbage..

I guess the Madrassas teach and indoctirnate "sh8tty people" but not the Jihad.. right?
 
soot said:
I don't know where you read that.

Given your obvious access to the Internet it could have been just about anywhere.

But, pro tip, whatever your source was, don't go back there for information on radical Islamic fundamentalism.
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ISIS believes they are martyrs of Allah.

Breakdown that sentence and then repost. They LITERALLY, live to die. Maybe not EACH individual person, but their overall mission is martyrdom in the name of Allah until there is no other religion but Islam. I suggest taking a deployment to Afghanistan to learn the ways of terrorism, then maybe graduating to going over to Iraq and coming face to face with one of them and ask for yourself :)
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
KKK is Christian, KKK is not representative of all of Christianity...

membership, maybe 5,000.


ISIS is Muslim, ISIS is not representative of all christianity.

Membership 200,000+, actively engaged in war, and has unkown number of sypmathizers.

now, are most muslims "Extremists"?

I guess that depends on what you count as "Extremist".

Majorities of Muslims in Egypt and Pakistan support the death penalty for leaving Islam - The Washington Post

I would say egyptian, and pakistani, 64% of them are for example.
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And Christians think that non-Christians dont know god so therefor lack morality without knowing god. So whats your point?
 
Travis007 said:
nah... youre mistaking igorance as "in the know"
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I'm trying to avoid ignorance by questioning questionable sources as opposed to foolishly accepting anything I read as truth.

Knowing stuff that's untrue isn't knowledge.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
And Christians think that non-Christians dont know god so therefor lack morality without knowing god. So whats your point?
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They don't kill you and cut your head off and try to establish a religeous theocracy by sword.


The point is the "well christians" rebuttle to any mention of the islamic group ISIS, is weak at best.,
 
Unrepresented said:
I'm trying to avoid ignorance by questioning questionable sources as opposed to foolishly accepting anything I read as truth.

Knowing stuff that's untrue isn't knowledge.
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nice flowery words..

too bad reality is what it is...

Im sure you know more then the eye witnesses to this well known practice..
 
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