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Russian Opposition Leader Shot Dead in Moscow

To be more specific, who would lead them? I'm sure someone will step up, but many won't though...
I think the opposition can pick a candidate from this list: Russian Opposition Coordination Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Im sure Gennady Zyuganov (Russian Communist Party) will run.




Much of that though was behind the scenes though, for in public, Yeltsin did support him. And ever since then, the next guy up has always gotten the next one's blessing. That's why you don't see one term president's in Russia.
I think we would agree that many of Russians "elections" are not fraudulent... Could that also be a major reason?

As far as the syndrome stopping, I'm not so sure. Russia is a far different beast then anywhere in the West, and it's people reflect that.
I agree. But one does not have to look to far... One only has to look to the protests against the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan in the USSR.

But beyond that, Putin has brought something to Russia's people that it desperately needed and that was to be relevant and to feel important again on the world stage. It's much the same manner as Hitler did for the German people still reeling from the Treaty of Versailles. Let's just hope that's where the comparisons to Hitler end...
I agree that Putin brought this. He promised stability and economic stability. He brought that for the vast majority of his term(s). He however did it through brutal, corrupt, and oligarchical means. Is he a scumbag? Absolutley. I just hope that the opposition be it, "Other Russia", Liberals, Communists, Socialists, Federalists, Anarchists, Femenists, all take back to the streets again.
 
Last I checked, Obama, or any US leader wasn't advocating bringing back one of the most oppressive and brutal governments in the world's history. You know how many deaths the Soviet Union were responsible for? Or just simply how many people suffered under their brutal rule? Quite frankly, I'm tired of your self-righteousness, trying to equate what's going on in Russia with anything that has ever occurred in the US, thinking the US is just as bad (or dare I say worse) as that dictatorship now setting up in Kremlin, just a few dozen feet from where this man was shot! But fine, you want to make excuses for the mad man in Russia, go right ahead, you're free to after all. It's not like your in Russia and have to worry about being locked up or killed for opinions...

Edit: Again, all the ones you brought up (and not well sourced might I add) didn't come up two days before a rally against their authority! Maybe if Reagan had killed the reporter prior to blowing the lid, then you'd have a point that he was trying to stop the damaging information from coming out. But the damage had already been done, there was no reason to do it! Think about these things man!

Patronize your life away dude!
 
I'm not familiar with Russian Politics, but what's to stop him though from just putting himself as Prime Minister again like he did the last time his term limit came, and effectively keeping himself in power?

Why do you think you need to stop anything in Russia. Have you noticed the decline of America in the last decades. Do you remember when the US was number one in almost everything in the world. Go ahead and pretend it's the old days.
 
I think the opposition can pick a candidate from this list: Russian Opposition Coordination Council - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Im sure Gennady Zyuganov (Russian Communist Party) will run.

First off, I'm sort of shocked there are still Communist in Russia (second, no I'm not considering, admittedly, Democracy hasn't been that great for Russia). But, besides that, what would a Russian Communist government look like.... if not the Soviet Union?

I think we would agree that many of Russians "elections" are not fraudulent... Could that also be a major reason?

I could be wrong, but did you mean to say that the elections are fraudulent? If that's the case, I would actually be surprised to find out if they were. As I said, I think there is a lot of genuine appreciation for that Putin has done (I've had the privilege of speaking to a couple of Russians actually in one of my online gaming groups who have expressed as much).

I agree. But one does not have to look to far... One only has to look to the protests against the Soviet intervention in Afghanistan in the USSR.

When did this occur though? See I'd be very surprised if it occurred in the beginning with a traditionalist like Brezhnev in power, but not so shocked if it occurred either midway or towards the end during Gorbachev who was a far more moderate leader, and a reformer in many respects.
 
Why do you think you need to stop anything in Russia. Have you noticed the decline of America in the last decades. Do you remember when the US was number one in almost everything in the world. Go ahead and pretend it's the old days.

You're either asking that question because you haven't been paying attention, or because you are a true believer. If the latter is the case, you should apply to the RT because they could use a few more like you that won't question Putin.

Patronize your life away dude!

You know what boggles me the most about you? I mean, you go on and on about all the evils of the US, but you don't seem to have any problem with the stuff that Putin is doing in Russia. I mean, if you were at least fair and would call out both sides, then at least I'd be able to understand it. Instead, it seems like you think all the evil in the world goes back to the US and you probably think much like Putin that the world would be a better place if the Soviet Union were still around oppressing millions of people.
 
First off, I'm sort of shocked there are still Communist in Russia
Yup. A lot of them. Second largest party.

(second, no I'm not considering, admittedly, Democracy hasn't been that great for Russia). But, besides that, what would a Russian Communist government look like.... if not the Soviet Union?
No idea.
But it goes way beyond the communist party. The Wiki article lists many members of the opposition of putin in Russia who were nominated by the anti-putin movement.

I could be wrong, but did you mean to say that the elections are fraudulent?
Yes. Excuse me, one too many Miller Lites as I wait for the snow.

If that's the case, I would actually be surprised to find out if they were. As I said, I think there is a lot of genuine appreciation for that Putin has done (I've had the privilege of speaking to a couple of Russians actually in one of my online gaming groups who have expressed as much).
I dont doubt that Putin has been appreciated by many in the Russian population, but I do however doubt his electorial tactis as do many observers of not only the presidential election, but the legislative elections as well.


When did this occur though?
87-89 is when they gained momentum.

See I'd be very surprised if it occurred in the beginning with a traditionalist like Brezhnev in power, but not so shocked if it occurred either midway or towards the end during Gorbachev who was a far more moderate leader, and a reformer in many respects.
Well yes that is when they started to gain momentum because of Glasnost.
 
You're either asking that question because you haven't been paying attention, or because you are a true believer. If the latter is the case, you should apply to the RT because they could use a few more like you that won't question Putin.



You know what boggles me the most about you? I mean, you go on and on about all the evils of the US, but you don't seem to have any problem with the stuff that Putin is doing in Russia. I mean, if you were at least fair and would call out both sides, then at least I'd be able to understand it. Instead, it seems like you think all the evil in the world goes back to the US and you probably think much like Putin that the world would be a better place if the Soviet Union were still around oppressing millions of people.

How many times do I have to tell you that I'm an American, I live in America, I work in America, I pay taxes in America, I vote in America. I don't have a ****ing dog in Russia. If you have your knickers in a knot over Russia, then go do what you can do about it. But I'm concerned about my country, it's credibility, legitimacy, value, credit and reputation. And as such I will be pursuing those interests. Knock yourself out bitching about Russia, and good luck with your agenda there.
 
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Assassinated right on the doorstep of the Kremlin. I wonder if Putin watched from a window.
 
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Assassinated right on the doorstep of the Kremlin. I wonder if Putin watched from a window.

The car's window maybe.
 
Russian Opposition Leader Boris Nemtsov Shot Dead In Moscow

MOSCOW, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Boris Nemtsov, a Russian opposition politician and former deputy prime minister, has been shot dead in central Moscow, the Interior Ministry said early on Saturday.

Nemtsov, 55, an outspoken critic of President Vladimir Putin, had been due to take part on Sunday in the first big opposition protest in months in the Russian capital.​


So a coincidence, or
is Putin cleaning up a bit of distracting business
?



If you have any proof, let us and Mr. Putin see it, eh?
 
Russian Opposition Leader Boris Nemtsov Shot Dead In Moscow

MOSCOW, Feb 28 (Reuters) - Boris Nemtsov, a Russian opposition politician and former deputy prime minister, has been shot dead in central Moscow, the Interior Ministry said early on Saturday.

Nemtsov, 55, an outspoken critic of President Vladimir Putin, had been due to take part on Sunday in the first big opposition protest in months in the Russian capital.


So a coincidence, or is Putin cleaning up a bit of distracting business?

Just the latest in a long list of Putins victims . I've posted this elsewhere but it bears repeating in the context of this thread

https://larussophobe.wordpress.com/putinmurders/

Yet despite all this ,this is still the sort of guy some American posters here want us to admire and appease :shock:
 
How many times do I have to tell you that I'm an American, I live in America, I work in America, I pay taxes in America, I vote in America. I don't have a ****ing dog in Russia. If you have your knickers in a knot over Russia, then go do what you can do about it. But I'm concerned about my country, it's credibility, legitimacy, value, credit and reputation. And as such I will be pursuing those interests. Knock yourself out bitching about Russia, and good luck with your agenda there.

In an anonymous forum, just about any nationalist Russian can claim the above.
 
Just the latest in a long list of Putins victims . I've posted this elsewhere but it bears repeating in the context of this thread

https://larussophobe.wordpress.com/putinmurders/

Yet despite all this ,this is still the sort of guy some American posters here want us to admire and appease :shock:

My thanks for this, my list of his victims only went back as far as 2003 but we have some posters wishing to appease Russia and Putin in this thread here.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/217969-leading-russian-opposition-leader-shot-dead.html
 
My thanks for this, my list of his victims only went back as far as 2003 but we have some posters wishing to appease Russia and Putin in this thread here.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/europe/217969-leading-russian-opposition-leader-shot-dead.html

This list only goes up to 2009 but I think it makes its point. These are just the high profile cases though. I suspect there are many many more we will never get to hear about who have been 'disappeared' just like in the good ole days :(
 
Strange how Putin opponents/critics wind up with polonium poisoning (Litvenenko) or a bullet (Poklonskaya/Nemtsov). Ukrainian POW Lieutenant Nadiya Savchenko is near death in a Moscow prison.

Seems ***** Riot got off easy.
 
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-- Seems ***** Riot got off easy.

Yeah, being bull-whipped by cossacks at the recent Olympics or widely attacked on the internet are minor compared to being shot dead or poisoned with Polonium.

Either way, it's a dangerous business to oppose Mr Putin.
 
If you have any proof, let us and Mr. Putin see it, eh?

LOL

I guess we'll have to wait, since he has announced he will be personally overseeing the investigation. That would be like the leader of the foxes heading up an investigation into an incident involving a hen house.
 
Shot four times in the back. A women he was with was not harmed. A targeted murder.


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Russians placing flowers at the murder site in Moscow. 2/28/2015

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Ukrainians placing flowers in memory of Nemtov in front of the Russian Embassy in Kyiv. 2/28/2015
Boris Nemtsov was highly critical of Putin's illegal annexation of Crimea and his war in eastern Ukraine.

The Russian government is already advancing possible motive's for the murder ... killed by fellow opposition members, an attempt to destabilize the state, Islamist extremists. Everything other than the fact that Nemtsov was best known as a highly vocal critic of Putin and his regime.
 
In an anonymous forum, just about any nationalist Russian can claim the above.

Welcome back DDD. In case it escaped you, anything can be claimed on such forums, hmm? Have you evidence that Putin is responsible for this killing, or just more biased anti Russian rhetoric based on all things Russian=bad! and all things Western=good?
 
Welcome back DDD. In case it escaped you, anything can be claimed on such forums, hmm? Have you evidence that Putin is responsible for this killing, or just more biased anti Russian rhetoric based on all things Russian=bad! and all things Western=good?

Talk about irony ! :shock:
 
Irrelevant, this is about Russia, not USA, stay on topic.

While we're speculating, eh, any number of motives could have been at play here. And certainly somebody wishing to implicate the Kremlin would find value in shooting him adjacent to it! However, the Kremlin, had it so desired, could have disappeared Boris without a trace, and leaving no such easy criticism. You buy this because it fits your Russian hatred nicely.
 
I wonder if there are still people here in the US who still admire Putin because they think he's such a strong, decisive leader?
 
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