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Russian Opposition Leader Shot Dead in Moscow

Ironically Nemtsov expected to be killed by Putin and said so shortly before it happened.

Boris Nemtsov: 'I'm afraid Putin will kill me,' politician said weeks before being shot dead - Europe - World - The Independent

I expect he knew better as an ex deputy prime minister about the inner workings of the Putin regime than any casual western observer and what the consequences of his actions might ultimately be

And I expect that a 30 year veteran of congress would know a bit more than the flogger!
 
It is a matter of fact that the beneficiary of the murder is the prime suspect. Provide evidence that this "West" is actively working to destabilize Russia?



You can start by providing valid evidence to support your biased opinions.

EVIDENCE!!!!!! Wtf is your problem. Do you think the economic sanctions being imposed on Russia are intended to shore her up. What's your deal dude???
 
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The source is irrelevant. What he says and the evidence he presents is.

I guess you are one of those people that cares more about who is making a statement rather then what they are actually saying.


Interesting that you refer to yourself in the plural. Actually, creepy is more accurate.

I hope you two have a nice day.

What flog cares about, is pressing his demonization of Putin and Russia. Therefore any shred that he sees as support of that, he clings to like a life jacket. But the mountain of logic, which is that Putin hugely damages himself by killing Boris, and gives the West another placard, that gets completely ignored.
 
What flog cares about, is pressing his demonization of Putin and Russia. Therefore any shred that he sees as support of that, he clings to like a life jacket. But the mountain of logic, which is that Putin hugely damages himself by killing Boris, and gives the West another placard, that gets completely ignored.

I let Putins track record speak for itself .... as I do yours :roll:
 
EVIDENCE!!!!!!

Yeap, evidence. It is what differentiates a mere opinion from a statement.

Wtf is your problem. Do you think the economic sanctions being imposed on Russia are intended to shore her up. What's your deal dude???

Nothing personal.

The economic sanctions imposed on Russia are because Russia wants to annex Ukrainian Crimea. But this has less to do with why Putin killed Boris.
 
Yeap, evidence. It is what differentiates a mere opinion from a statement.



Nothing personal.

The economic sanctions imposed on Russia are because Russia wants to annex Ukrainian Crimea. But this has less to do with why Putin killed Boris.

So are you just being coy, or do you really fail to understand that economic sanctions are a punishment, meant to damage and destabilize? Answer the question!
 
So are you just being coy, or do you really fail to understand that economic sanctions are a punishment, meant to damage and destabilize? Answer the question!

So "economic punishment" killed Boris then?!

Let us keep on topic please.
 
So "economic punishment" killed Boris then?!

Let us keep on topic please.

Ok, so you don't know the purpose of sanctions, fine.
 
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The source is irrelevant. What he says and the evidence he presents is

What evidence ? This guy even invoked the JFK assassination conspiracy theory in order to try and make his point, then referred to the Russians as the Soviets which tells you a lot about his credibility

I guess you are one of those people that cares more about who is making a statement rather then what they are actually saying.
This guy seems more interested in ranting about domestic 'neocons' than he is about any factual representation. Nemtsov was bumped off the day before a major anti war march through Red square which was a point that was never mentioned yet which in light of subsequent events is highly significant. The last thing Putin wants is for people to stop and question the true motivations for the war in Ukraine that might run counter to the massive state sponsored media bombardment they have been subjected to to date.

Interesting that you refer to yourself in the plural. Actually, creepy is more accurate.

Many share a similar view here
 
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Sanctions are not the subject of this thread.

Acts such as the murder of Boris, and the Wests economic sanctions to destabilize Russia, are indeed the topic.
 
Hadn't heard that claim. And what's wrong with you that you would deny a Western motive to destabilize Russia? It's already being done overtly.

That's the claim every time Putin murders people. "It's the West! Spare me.
 
Acts such as the murder of Boris,

Yes, this is the topic.

and the Wests economic sanctions to destabilize Russia, are indeed the topic.

This is not.

The topic is Boris was killed as a matter of fact and Putin is the prime suspect because he benefits more out of dictatorships if his rivals are out. He has from whom to learn to do that too. Russia is full of such people since Ivan the terrible all the way to Stalin.
 
I usually hear it from Russian nationalists though?
Or anyone with an anti-US agenda. The enemy of my enemy is my friend rationale.
 
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Or anyone with an anti-US agenda. The enemy of my enemy is my friend rationale.

I think we should note here that there may be plenty of this happening recently. This is an anonymous forum. This has advantages and disadvantages.

One may speak out more freely since they are anonymous. But at the same time it allows people with polar positions to posit themselves within the community that they are otherwise polar to, so as to confuse and distract the group from within. Kind of like planting a spook on the other group.

I had an encounter with someone in DP whom had major Serbian positions. But he (?) claimed to be from NATO headquarters in Brussels! ;) . So then this would allow the person to practice extreme polar positions and damage relationships with other pro-NATO members for instance.

Then there are people whom have scientific avatars and logically driven usernames. Their posts though are anything but that. So they pretend to be in the group of science with such a front, and they may do that to push real members away from the group.

Lastly there's Monte, who claims to be American. Yet a single pro-American/EU position can hardly be ever found. A pro-American may be discouraged by hearing an "American" maintain such polar-positions, which may weaken pro-American followers and that would be at the benefit of pro-Russians.

Just plant someone with a polar-position at the opposite group, and on an anonymous forum there seems nothing that can go wrong from there.

Lastly, there are some benefits to that. We could benefit someone playing the devils advocate so as to avoid bias and group think. But it becomes boring after continuous interactions with the same pro-Russian debater.
 
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