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Isis present in All 50 states, FBI director says[W:162]

Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

1 in 20 million.


That's your odds in dying in a terrorist attack.



I've given you the link.

Depends on where you live. My friend and his family had to leave Pakistan because their village kept getting hit with RPGs from the friendly Taliban.

Also, the only reason it's 1 in 20 million is because we've been doing a great job keeping the violent muslims OUT of America. With Obama's defense budget cuts, well...it's only going to get worse. You can't CUT the defense budget and expect to be more SAFE.

lol
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Why are you saying they aren't islamic and don't want to create an islamic state?
I think he is saying that the groups aspiration to become an Islamic state is as of yet unfulfilled.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

If 5k/mo were an average rather than a high point...

60,000 /yr per 7,100,000,000 inhabitants
What the incidence rate per 100,000 there?
Almost 1 per 100,000?

While terrorism and threat of terrorism is real, danger must be dealt with rationally. imho. ymmv
Um, your number Only Includes ONE year, while the odds I was refuting I believe were all-time (Lottery, Lightning, etc).
So perhaps multiply likelihood by another 20.

They arrested 3 in NYC Yesterday alone, on ONE Day alone.
OF course, add in all killed yesterday by ISIS, Boko, etc/et al. and all killed/arrested nationally and interantionally.
 
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Calling themselves "Islamic State" is aspirational. Us calling them that bring it nearer. It recognises and validates their claim, and their extremist agenda. Call them "Daesh" or like the BBC, preface the use of the name with "the so-called" IS.



Mornin Skipper. :2wave: The Egyptians should be the ones that are ticked off. As ISIS was their Goddess. They should let themselves be known to Daesh in Iraq and Syria. Give that slap upside the head for dissin their Goddess, so to speak.

They have made themselves available to the Heretics in Libya.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Let's not lose sight of the fact the FBI did not actually say that ISIS was in all 50 states.

Rather, the statement indicates that there is at least one person in each state who is in some "stage of radicalization"

Does the FBI offer a list of those stages? Does anybody know?

Does posting bravado to a MB count as a stage of radicalization?
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Why are you saying they aren't islamic and don't want to create an islamic state?

I'm not. I never made such claims. Having said that, they are as Islamic as the Westborough Baptists are Christian. They want to set up a state which adheres to their perverted idea of Islam.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Um, your number Only Includes ONE year, while the odds I was refuting I believe were all-time (Lottery, Lightning, etc).
So perhaps multiply likelihood by another 20.
That's not how probability works.

In any case, each year, you will still only have that same chance whatever it may be.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Depends on where you live. My friend and his family had to leave Pakistan because their village kept getting hit with RPGs from the friendly Taliban.

Also, the only reason it's 1 in 20 million is because we've been doing a great job keeping the violent muslims OUT of America. With Obama's defense budget cuts, well...it's only going to get worse. You can't CUT the defense budget and expect to be more SAFE.

lol


The U.S. military budget is $786.6 billion for FY 2016.

US Military Budget: Components, Challenges, Growth



Just curious, how much do you think the defense budget needs, if those cuts to 786 billion was too much? Why can't 786 billion, or really even half that amount, keep us safe?
 
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US Military Budget: Components, Challenges, Growth



Just curious, how much do you think the defense budget needs, if those cuts to 786 billion was too much? Why can't 786 billion, or really even half that amount, keep us safe?

Cutting 500 BILLION from the US Armed Forces is why. When we ARE safe, you don't cut the defense budget from the knees down and expect to remain just as safe as you were. I work in manpower studies for the military, LOL. I know exactly how much manpower is getting cut from where (stemming from the NGB to the RA). These cuts would only be made by someone with ZERO intelligence in the defense community. Which makes sense that an idiot like Obama would make them.

Enjoy blindly defending him and expecting to think cutting 500 Bil will continue to keep you safe.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Depends on where you live. My friend and his family had to leave Pakistan because their village kept getting hit with RPGs from the friendly Taliban.


True, I was speaking about America, since the FBI is warning about domestic threats.


Also, the only reason it's 1 in 20 million is because we've been doing a great job keeping the violent muslims OUT of America. With Obama's defense budget cuts, well...it's only going to get worse. You can't CUT the defense budget and expect to be more SAFE.


Sure, I can, cut the defense budget, get out of the mid-east, profile those coming into the country. Done and done.

How can you saw we have been doing a good job keeping people out of the country, The Rio Grande would disagree.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

True, I was speaking about America, since the FBI is warning about domestic threats.





Sure, I can, cut the defense budget, get out of the mid-east, profile those coming into the country. Done and done.

How can you saw we have been doing a good job keeping people out of the country, The Rio Grande would disagree.
I meant in means of muslim terrorists...not gang banging mexicans.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Voters get the government and the politicians they deserve. Blame or credit for Obama goes to the ignorance of the voters in both parties - nothing more or less.



I do believe that's an ironclad fact.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

I'm not. I never made such claims. Having said that, they are as Islamic as the Westborough Baptists are Christian. They want to set up a state which adheres to their perverted idea of Islam.



ISIS, has muslim scholars with doctorate degrees in theology at it's helm, it has well to do muslims from many countries joining the fight, they are 200,000 strong with unkown number of sympathizers.

Westboro church had what, 10?


and once again, we have the "but but the christians" equivalency fallacy.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

How do you Figure?
I didn't create the figure - which is why I linked to it. The other odds were sourced - in order to understand how odds are calculated I would suspect that is another topic but you can google it and find out.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

That's not how probability works.

In any case, each year, you will still only have that same chance whatever it may be.
I understand Quite Well how probability works.
It was me who expanded on/called out the nebulousness of the numbers posted, because I do.
You just made an Empty claim.


I didn't create the figure - which is why I linked to it. The other odds were sourced - in order to understand how odds are calculated I would suspect that is another topic but you were probably google it and find out.
And I pointed out that ISIS/Jihadis etc were Obviously (with numbers) NOT included in your stat, making it IRRELEVANT To this string.
No need to Google.

And I might add, most 'terrorist' plots in this country are Foiled by the FBI etc.
ie, 50 from 2001-2011.
So that doesn't mitigate the amount of Jihadis or their danger.
 
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Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

I meant in means of muslim terrorists...not gang banging mexicans.



lol one of the warnings we are fear mongered over.

National Review


With the sheer numbers coming across, how many of them are islamicists? I don't know but to suggest we are keeping them out while there is a gaping hole in our border really doesn't make much sense.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Let's not lose sight of the fact the FBI did not actually say that ISIS was in all 50 states.

Rather, the statement indicates that there is at least one person in each state who is in some "stage of radicalization"

Does the FBI offer a list of those stages? Does anybody know?

Does posting bravado to a MB count as a stage of radicalization?

Does us posting on a political board about ISIS count? :ninja:
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

lol one of the warnings we are fear mongered over.

National Review


With the sheer numbers coming across, how many of them are islamicists? I don't know but to suggest we are keeping them out while there is a gaping hole in our border really doesn't make much sense.

The ATR review, which I will have to find on google, actually showed that the Canadian borders were more of a threat. The reason being the thick woods traveled by drug smugglers, rather than the southern border that's a lot of desert. It's less funded than the Mexican border. I'll find the link and post.

***Threat of Islamic radicals
 
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I understand Quite Well how probability works.
Of course you do.

And I pointed out that ISIS/Jihadis etc were Obviously (with numbers) NOT included in your stat, making it IRRELEVANT To this string.
No need to Google.
Why weren't incidents where massed troops engaged in hostilities counted as terrorism?
Quite the puzzler.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

The ATR review, which I will have to find on google, actually showed that the Canadian borders were more of a threat. The reason being the thick woods traveled by drug smugglers, rather than the southern border that's a lot of desert. It's less funded than the Mexican border. I'll find the link and post.

***Threat of Islamic radicals




That helps my point. how can you say we "prevent islamic terrorists" from getting into the country if our borders are open?
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Cutting 500 BILLION from the US Armed Forces is why. When we ARE safe, you don't cut the defense budget from the knees down and expect to remain just as safe as you were. I work in manpower studies for the military, LOL. I know exactly how much manpower is getting cut from where (stemming from the NGB to the RA). These cuts would only be made by someone with ZERO intelligence in the defense community. Which makes sense that an idiot like Obama would make them.

Enjoy blindly defending him and expecting to think cutting 500 Bil will continue to keep you safe.



If you cut 500 Billion over 10 years as proposed, that would be about $5,000,000,000 per year, so tell me again how can 786 billion - 5 billion = 781 billion not keep us safe next year? Then so on until 10 years is up and we are down to 286 billion, which is still more than double the defense budget of any other country on this planet. How much money do we need to spend to keep us safe? There is a probable chance my house can be robbed and me be killed by an intruder and yet I don't need to build a moat, buy machine guns, and put up spiked fences to keep me safe.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

"This has Nothing to do with Islam"

ISIS PRESENT IN ALL 50 STATES, FBI DIRECTOR SAYS
ABC7 I-Team Investigation
WLS
By Chuck Goudie
ISIS present in all 50 states, FBI director says | abc7chicago.com
Updated 1 hr 20 mins ago


Also Video from WashPost

Comey: Extremists exist in all 50 states - The Washington Post

My first question is what the **** has this incompetent ass wipe been doing?

He has the largest police force in the world at his disposal and he has allowed an enemy to grow from within like a cancer. He has "investigations" underway in every state, but where are the arrests.

FFS he has the Patriot Act at his disposal, DHS, and enough eavesdropping equipment to brag about, a budget that could change the outcome of a war and he's now, two years later letting us know he's incompetent.

I'm still waiting for Obama's FBI to catch the spontaneous demonstrators who assassinated an American ambassador to be "brought to justice" like Obama assured everyone during the election.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

My first question is what the **** has this incompetent ass wipe been doing?

He has the largest police force in the world at his disposal and he has allowed an enemy to grow from within like a cancer. He has "investigations" underway in every state, but where are the arrests.

FFS he has the Patriot Act at his disposal, DHS, and enough eavesdropping equipment to brag about, a budget that could change the outcome of a war and he's now, two years later letting us know he's incompetent.

I'm still waiting for Obama's FBI to catch the spontaneous demonstrators who assassinated an American ambassador to be "brought to justice" like Obama assured everyone during the election.
It may be that the "stages of radicalization" obtained by the people under discussion are not the kind of stages which involve breaking a law.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

Who handed the GOP its butt in 2008 and 2012? Any ideas on that? :roll:
There is no doubt about that!Obamacare: Voters, are you stupid? - CNN.com

Perhaps Los Stupidos will vote for the best candidate next time rather than voting strictly party lines or will actually educate themselves on important issues.
It's easy to be a Monday morning quarterback. (Anyone can do that.)
In fact, if you were even moderately informed, what's going on was easily predictable, and was indeed predicted. Anyone can understand voting for this guy once but twice suggests an unfathomable depth of ignorance, dangerous to any democracy.
 
Re: ISIS present in All 50 states, FBI director says

"This has Nothing to do with Islam"

ISIS PRESENT IN ALL 50 STATES, FBI DIRECTOR SAYS
ABC7 I-Team Investigation
WLS
By Chuck Goudie
ISIS present in all 50 states, FBI director says | abc7chicago.com
Updated 1 hr 20 mins ago


Also Video from WashPost

Comey: Extremists exist in all 50 states - The Washington Post


In less than two years, ISIS has gone from a terror start-up overseas to what FBI Director James Comey calls a "chaotic spider web" in the US, with young Muslim men being radicalized in Illinois and the 49 other states. Comey suggests ISIS uses social media like a job fair. That's how he says terrorists snagged three New York men facing ISIS charges.

But, but, there is no "radical Islam" is there?

Or is "radical" now OK and only "extremist" is out?

It all gets confusing.....who is the enemy anyway? And why hasn't Obama given these young people jobs? That would stop this "radicalization" no? At least they say it will work in Iraq, or is America not ready for job creation?
 
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