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Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times[W:158]

Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

What was the name of the study and who conducted it? I know how Jason L. Riley is your kind of "AA" as your tidy little acronym implies. Show me the actual data and sample size.

I dont even know who Jason L. Riley is, and AA is the term used in the medical field as shorthand for African American. As for who gathered the stats, you can ask the Wall Street Journal.

What else you got? :2wave:
 
Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

It doesn't take 16 shots to put somebody down, the kid wasn't wearing body armor. Doesn't sound fishy to you? they shot him twice in the back and once in the head.
It sounds like the police need more training to place their shots better.
 
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The report contradicts the officer statements. The police force here has a long history of corruption, Brutality , overkill and sweeping things under the rug. This is another black eyes against CPD that fits an all-too-familiar MO.

I understand your implication, but you can't stop short of proving a criminal act.

Show me where that happened.
 
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you cannot tell anything merely by the number of rounds alone

It escalated from the use of a taser to several cops shooting Laquan McDonald 16 times. CPD states McDonald died of a chest wound. Cook County Med Examiner says "multiple gun shot wounds." Then the autopsy report comes out.

It's an egregious abuse of state power.
 
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I dig how all of the authoritarian gun grabbers are blindly defending the actions of the police when this is still under investigation and the dashboard cam hasn't been released yet. If the autopsy showed that a squad car ran over his body after he was dead, they'd defend that too.
 
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That alone does not imply a criminal or racist act by the cops-im asking you to provide evidence of any foul play-can you provide it?

No indictments. No trial. Yet.

Not sure why you are commanding evidence when you have none of your own.
 
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He was dead by the 5th shot. Don't read the autopsy report though.

What do you base that on?

The wound numbers in the autopsy are not sequential or numbered based on lethality-so do tell how you know this?

BTW Im a Paramedic who has been to numerous police shootings-the cops didn't stop to check if he was dead and even if they had-they aren't experts.

So please do tell how you know this. :2wave:
 
Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

It escalated from the use of a taser to several cops shooting Laquan McDonald 16 times. CPD states McDonald died of a chest wound. Cook County Med Examiner says "multiple gun shot wounds." Then the autopsy report comes out.

It's an egregious abuse of state power.

maybe so, maybe not
 
Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

It escalated from the use of a taser to several cops shooting Laquan McDonald 16 times. CPD states McDonald died of a chest wound. Cook County Med Examiner says "multiple gun shot wounds." Then the autopsy report comes out.

It's an egregious abuse of state power.

The chest wound took time to be fatal, it was through one lung causing a minor hemothorax. Im telling you.

And we dont know when that shot occurred. Judging by the hematomas and subdural bleed, his heart was pumping for a time afterwords.
 
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I dont even know who Jason L. Riley is, and AA is the term used in the medical field as shorthand for African American. As for who gathered the stats, you can ask the Wall Street Journal.

What else you got? :2wave:

He wrote the article you posted. It's Riley's interpretation of the statistics. And the WSJ didn't do the study and it's subscriber only so the nebulous "stats" you posted are just that.

I know what you got by way of statistics. nottadamthing.
 
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I dig how all of the authoritarian gun grabbers are blindly defending the actions of the police when this is still under investigation and the dashboard cam hasn't been released yet. If the autopsy showed that a squad car ran over his body after he was dead, they'd defend that too.

Last I saw, it was YOU saying the number of shots was excessive-why? Because you say so.

Im not blindly defending anything, but most of the shots were non-fatal, and the rest would have taken time. The cops tried a taser, and this 17 year old had not only slashed the cops car tires but had also refused to stop after a taser was used.

Those facts dont really fit the narrative that you are trying to apply.
 
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The chest wound took time to be fatal, it was through one lung causing a minor hemothorax. Im telling you.

And we dont know when that shot occurred. Judging by the hematomas and subdural bleed, his heart was pumping for a time afterwords.

He was shot twice in the chest. And unless you have the link to the autopsy substantiating any of the above it'd be great if you'd post it and it didn't require a subscription.:2wave:
 
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He was shot twice in the chest. And unless you have the link to the autopsy substantiating any of the above it'd be great if you'd post it and it didn't require a subscription.:2wave:

How fast do you think those cops could get off say 20 shots
 
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No indictments. No trial. Yet.

Not sure why you are commanding evidence when you have none of your own.

I provided the autopsy report. Thats objective evidence-YOU want this to fit your narrative (racist cops killing black kids with impunity).

Whats going to happen (barring unknown evidence) is the al sharpton's will moan, perhaps there will be some rioting, and an investigation will be quietly conducted.

BTW, george zimmerman was just investigated yet again, and it was quietly dropped.
 
Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

What do you base that on?

The wound numbers in the autopsy are not sequential or numbered based on lethality-so do tell how you know this?

BTW Im a Paramedic who has been to numerous police shootings-the cops didn't stop to check if he was dead and even if they had-they aren't experts.

So please do tell how you know this. :2wave:

How do you know he was not dead?
 
Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

I provided the autopsy report. Thats objective evidence-YOU want this to fit your narrative (racist cops killing black kids with impunity).

Whats going to happen (barring unknown evidence) is the al sharpton's will moan, perhaps there will be some rioting, and an investigation will be quietly conducted.

BTW, george zimmerman was just investigated yet again, and it was quietly dropped.

No. You did not provide any autopsy report. There was an autopsy report but you didn't provide it, only your opinion.

Al Sharpton and George Zimmerman? This is starting to get a little to Fox news for me.
 
Re: Report: Chicago police shoot teen 16 times

He wrote the article you posted. It's Riley's interpretation of the statistics. And the WSJ didn't do the study and it's subscriber only so the nebulous "stats" you posted are just that.

I know what you got by way of statistics. nottadamthing.

Its not subscriber only, several articles can be read there. If you are disputing the stats, kindly provide your evidence. :2wave:
 
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He was shot twice in the chest. And unless you have the link to the autopsy substantiating any of the above it'd be great if you'd post it and it didn't require a subscription.:2wave:

I already posted it in this thread. Try to keep up.
 
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How do you know he was not dead?

Because his heart was beating. Thats how blood accumulated in his plural space and subdural space.

Like I said, I have a medical background.

You on the other hand, have not demonstrated how you somehow know that he was dead by the 5th shot. Im interested because theres no way anyone there could have known that. :2wave:
 
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No. You did not provide any autopsy report. There was an autopsy report but you didn't provide it, only your opinion.

Al Sharpton and George Zimmerman? This is starting to get a little to Fox news for me.

You are mistaken, I did indeed provide the autopsy report. Why would you double down on that when you could easily review my posts in this thread and see that I in fact have?
 
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