State run medias vs. American apologist.

Montecresto · Feb 24, 2015

chad1389 said:
Who did we kill in the process of doing this? A pissed of Russia does not mean they can force their way in and cause a civil war.

Tragic that you believe this.

chad1389 · Feb 24, 2015

Montecresto said:
Tragic that you believe this.

It's tragic that you believe Putin's motive for doing so are fair. He supported the rebels in Ukraine in purpose of causing trouble, as he knew more in Ukraine were wanting to break away from the their history involving Russia which would cause Putin to lose national interests. Russia is just pissed off that more people in Ukraine would choose NATO over Russia. He's not trying to save Ukraine. He's only trying to save Russia. Putin being scared that NATO, which was created to unite those afraid of Russia, is going to do exactly what it was created to do if it got Ukraine, is ridiculous. NATO is no threat to Russia. NATO was created to respond to attacks. Not start them. He can't run his own country. What makes anyone in Russia think that by expanding itself it would somehow fix anything?

We as a nation need to arm those willing to stand up to Russia. And those against it for the reason that "America intervenes too much in global conflicts and needs to stop policing the world" lack understanding of what it means to be American. Who cares if we "police the world?" Whose going to stand up for us if we become invaded? Don't expect any country who sincerely believes that we are a nation of war mongers to do so. Any country that wants to think bad of us, has never not accepted foreign aid from us.

Montecresto · Feb 25, 2015

chad1389 said:
It's tragic that you believe Putin's motive for doing so are fair. He supported the rebels in Ukraine in purpose of causing trouble, as he knew more in Ukraine were wanting to break away from the their history involving Russia which would cause Putin to lose national interests. Russia is just pissed off that more people in Ukraine would choose NATO over Russia. He's not trying to save Ukraine. He's only trying to save Russia. Putin being scared that NATO, which was created to unite those afraid of Russia, is going to do exactly what it was created to do if it got Ukraine, is ridiculous. NATO is no threat to Russia. NATO was created to respond to attacks. Not start them. He can't run his own country. What makes anyone in Russia think that by expanding itself it would somehow fix anything?

We as a nation need to arm those willing to stand up to Russia. And those against it for the reason that "America intervenes too much in global conflicts and needs to stop policing the world" lack understanding of what it means to be American. Who cares if we "police the world?" Whose going to stand up for us if we become invaded? Don't expect any country who sincerely believes that we are a nation of war mongers to do so. Any country that wants to think bad of us, has never not accepted foreign aid from us.

Ukrainians weren't choosing NATO. Some were choosing the EU. Democracies have systems for change. They do not include an angry vigilantly mob of a few hundred thousand people in a country of 44 million converging on the Capitol, MC's in hand to burn down federal buildings and force their president from office with hostilities, and firing upon his motorcade as he flees. You wouldn't support that here, so stop supporting it there.