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CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite [W:218, 239]

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Atiya said:
Could not agree more. However, Netanyahu appears to have a narcissistic personality disorder. He doesn't give a damn what damage is done between this president ...
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Yeah well, that's a two way street there...
 
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Ikari said:
Well at least he is an elected official of the US, not a foreigner with grand plans on how we should spend our money, military, and diplomacy.
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"a foreigner with grand plans on how we should spend our money, military, and diplomacy" - AKA. a US Ally
 
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Ockham said:
Yeah well, that's a two way street there...
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Yeah, why should Netanyahu care any more about President Obama than Obama has demonstrated he cares about Netanyahu?
 
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Atiya said:
Could not agree more. However, Netanyahu appears to have a narcissistic personality disorder. He doesn't give a damn what damage is done between this president and him as long as he does everything he can to win the upcoming Israeli election. He really should care because President Obama will be in office another two years. Netanyahu is so vain that he thinks he can undo any damage he's caused just by proclaiming "the Israeli ties with the US is strong and will always remain strong." Not so, Mr. Netanyahu. If the fabric of the foundation began to erode how long will the building stands
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If what you suggest about his personality is true, it's no wonder he would have difficulty getting along with the President. Since Obama most certainly suffers from the same disorder, it must be hell for them to be in the same room together.
 
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jmotivator said:
"a foreigner with grand plans on how we should spend our money, military, and diplomacy" - AKA. a US Ally
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We have lots of allies, some worth a bit more than others. But they still din't get to dictate our policies. America needs to work for America first.
 
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Travis007 said:
Obama is a liability

did Obama go to Israel in 2008 weeks before the US Election?
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No.

He visited Israel in July of 2008, four and a half months before the election. He did not address the Israeli parliament. Instead he met privately with Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert, and the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.
The Israeli Election is March 17th. Two weeks is not the same thing as 4.5 months.
 
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Ikari said:
We have lots of allies, some worth a bit more than others. But they still din't get to dictate our policies. America needs to work for America first.
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So are you saying that Obama has no grand plans on how Israel should spend its money, military and diplomacy?
 
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jmotivator said:
So are you saying that Obama has no grand plans on how Israel should spend its money, military and diplomacy?
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I think Obama is moving onto something else he hopes will work to bring a bit of stability in the ME, however unlikely that will end up being. And Israel can do what it wants; I don't see Obama going to petition their legislative branch. Obama shouldn't dictate their policies either.
 
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ocean515 said:
If what you suggest about his personality is true, it's no wonder he would have difficulty getting along with the President. Since Obama most certainly suffers from the same disorder, it must be hell for them to be in the same room together.
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I hope he wins his election in spite of Obama and friends spending money to defeat him! I despise meddlers!
 
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Mithros said:
No.

He visited Israel in July of 2008, four and a half months before the election. He did not address the Israeli parliament. Instead he met privately with Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert, and the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.
The Israeli Election is March 17th. Two weeks is not the same thing as 4.5 months.
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What difference does it make that Obama went to Israel in 2008? ? We are meddling in another countrys election process NOW! WTH? Has everyone gone nuts?
 
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jmotivator said:
Yeah, why should Netanyahu care any more about President Obama than Obama has demonstrated he cares about Netanyahu?
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Is that a trick question?

The obvious answer is because Netanyahu is the beggar in this relationship and has FAR more to lose if the superpower that is the U.S. abandons Bibi and/or the tiny nation of Israel than the reverse. And it's Obama and the WH diplomatic personnel who actually conduct U.S. foreign policy - not Boehner.
 
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leoborn said:
What difference does it make that Obama went to Israel in 2008? ? We are meddling in another countrys election process NOW! WTH? Has everyone gone nuts?
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Travis007 tried to say that Obama visited Israel weeks before the 2008 election. I pointed out that wasn't true.
 
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Mithros said:
No.

He visited Israel in July of 2008, four and a half months before the election. He did not address the Israeli parliament. Instead he met privately with Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert, and the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.
The Israeli Election is March 17th. Two weeks is not the same thing as 4.5 months.
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who cares.. ...

Obama was simply pandering for Obama.... Bibi is here for the survival of the Jewish People and the Nation of Israel..

a bit of a difference and Bibi is the Prime Minister..


Obama was a zero Jr senator..
 
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JasperL said:
Is that a trick question?

The obvious answer is because Netanyahu is the beggar in this relationship and has FAR more to lose if the superpower that is the U.S. abandons Bibi and/or the tiny nation of Israel than the reverse. And it's Obama and the WH diplomatic personnel who actually conduct U.S. foreign policy - not Boehner.
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Oh, I think the Democrats and Obama have a lot to lose by abandoning Israel.

But I do appreciate your honest admission of the diplomacy at play in the pro-Obama camp. It's funny how the pro-Obama folks suddenly start sounding so incredibly imperialistic when they talk about Israel..

For Iran they are willing to address the supposed needs of the Iranian state (which are all lies), for Israel it is "HEEL! Fetch! Roll Over!".
 
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Mithros said:
No.

He visited Israel in July of 2008, four and a half months before the election. He did not address the Israeli parliament. Instead he met privately with Ehud Barak, Ehud Olmert, and the Palestinian president Mahmoud Abbas.
The Israeli Election is March 17th. Two weeks is not the same thing as 4.5 months.
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why did Obama even go to Israel?
 
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Ikari said:
We have lots of allies, some worth a bit more than others. But they still din't get to dictate our policies. America needs to work for America first.
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Obama has destroyed the basic trust of ALL our allies who know we wont be thre for them if its not good for Obama...

thats not what "allies" are about...

then again Obama voters dont get it or care..
 
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Mithros said:
Travis007 tried to say that Obama visited Israel weeks before the 2008 election. I pointed out that wasn't true.
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I don't care when Obama visited. We're interfering in their elections today. Doesn't that bother you?
 
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JasperL said:
Is that a trick question?

The obvious answer is because Netanyahu is the beggar in this relationship and has FAR more to lose if the superpower that is the U.S. abandons Bibi and/or the tiny nation of Israel than the reverse.
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So, out of curiosity, what do you think Israel has to lose if it loses US support?
 
SlevinKelevra said:
CNN/ORC poll: Majority of Americans oppose Netanyahu invite - CNN.com

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2015/images/02/17/rel2d.netanyahu[1].pdf



interesting on its own



perhaps even more interesting.
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When looking at these two in concert,
Are we finally seeing a shift in the general populace with respect to our policies with Israel?
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Still ashamed that Congress gave into Netanyahu's cheap election ploy.
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I agree that it wasn't cool to invite him like that. Obama may be a anti-Israeli tool, but he's still the president of the United States.

Funny how the media didn't mention the polls when Obama vetoed the Keystone?
 
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JasperL said:
Is that a trick question?

The obvious answer is because Netanyahu is the beggar in this relationship and has FAR more to lose if the superpower that is the U.S. abandons Bibi and/or the tiny nation of Israel than the reverse. And it's Obama and the WH diplomatic personnel who actually conduct U.S. foreign policy - not Boehner.
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Giving a speech equals conducting policy? Far out, dude, what are you smoking?
 
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j-mac said:
Maybe you could highlight in the constitution where the congress, or the speaker is constitutionally bound to ask the President's permission to invite someone to speak to congress?
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It's called rules of Protocol. The PM's visit to the US congress is a rebuke to the President of the US and is attempting to undermine the US foreign policy which the Israeli leader doesn't like. It is a serious breach of protocol and John Boehner knows this along with the Israel PM who thinks he's safe because there is a barrier between the Republican Party and the Democrats headed by Obama.

Below is an article highlighting this breach of protocol by Boehner and Netanyahu. The Israeli leader knew full well what he was doing, but his actions said "screw Obama."

Benjamin Netanyahu addressing Congress: His willingness to play politics with U.S.-Israeli relations is revolting and dangerous.
 
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leoborn said:
I don't care when Obama visited. We're interfering in their elections today. Doesn't that bother you?
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Um, yes?
 
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Travis007 said:
why did Obama even go to Israel?
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Ask him, I'm sure he'd answer.

But there's clearly no equivalency between Obama's July 2008 visit and this unsanctioned and politically motivated visit.
 
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