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U.S. Announces Plan for Massive Counter-ISIS Attack [W:228]

I think it was idiotic to release a plan for an ISIS attack! But If we take the City we could use it as a base for possible other attacks.
 
Montecresto said:
Defense Secretary Panetta tells Senator Sessions that military gets ...
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Panetta: Obama Has Authority to Override Congress to Declare War - Duration: 9: 44. by ...


Yeah, go watch this!!
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Holy smokes! That was fantastic. Go Sen. Sessions. Panetta said again and again that he would seek international legal authority(NATO or the UN) and might inform Congress but the only legal permission the US military needed as far as US is concerned is the President's, which is clearly wrong. He never expressed the military's responsibility to Congress and/or the American people. He refused to acknowledge that. Wow!

Thanks.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Holy smokes! That was fantastic. Go Sen. Sessions. Panetta said again and again that he would seek international legal authority(NATO or the UN) and might inform Congress but the only legal permission the US military needed as far as US is concerned is the President's, which is clearly wrong. He never expressed the military's responsibility to Congress and/or the American people. He refused to acknowledge that. Wow!

Thanks.
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See, this is the kinda thing that blows my mind when I listen to people go on with there petty finger pointing partisan bull****. Our constitution is and has been under attack for a very long time. If people don't get a grip on this and start being American constitutional it's FIRST and D's, R's and I's second, were not going to need to give a damn about parties. To the constitution man!!!! Yeah Sessions grabs his throat and says, "that takes my breathe away"!!! And you're welcome.
 
Hatuey said:
The belief that giving ISIL a week or even a month's heads up will make any difference is absurd. What are they going to do? Ready up their tanks? Dust off their helicopters? Upgrade their nuclear arsenal? :lol:
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That's not a serious post, right?
 
Born Free said:
This is all about Obama to give himself cover to make the people believe he is actually going to do something other than drop a few grenades from a few planes that is not working. You know "I have a plan"
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The assault on Mosul probably won't even happen.
 
Moot said:
The 2003 Iraq invasion wasn't exactly a secret, either.
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D-day was secret. Objectives, timelines, axes of advance, etc. were all secret.
 
Hatuey said:
I accept your acknowledgement of defeat. You made erroneous claims about what I said and then when called to validate them, you couldn't. There is nothing else for us to discuss here other than the fact that your narrative has fallen apart.
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No my narrative didn't fall apart.....throughout this entire thread. It basically showed #1 that you don't know what you are talking about. #2 it showed you were looking to play off some specific word or statement.....and finally #3 that you still carry BO's water.

So that's where it stands. Whether you like it or not.
 
MMC said:
No my narrative didn't fall apart.....throughout this entire thread. It basically showed #1 that you don't know what you are talking about. #2 it showed you were looking to play off some specific word or statement.....and finally #3 that you still carry BO's water.

So that's where it stands. Whether you like it or not.
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The guy who couldn't prove a single claim he said I made I made is now claiming that I don't know what I'm talking about. That's rich. Considering you agreed that ISIL would be doing what I said they'd be doing anyways. Look, your narrative falls apart. If ISIL is half as dangerous as you say it is, they should have known that the US was going to attack and prepared accordingly. If they didn't, then they're not as bad as you say they are and telling them we're coming won't make a difference. Which is it? :)
 
Hatuey said:
The guy who couldn't prove a single claim he said I made I made is now claiming that I don't know what I'm talking about. That's rich. Considering you agreed that ISIL would be doing what I said they'd be doing anyways. Look, your narrative falls apart. If ISIL is half as dangerous as you say it is, they should have known that the US was going to attack and prepared accordingly. If they didn't, then they're not as bad as you say they are and telling them we're coming won't make a difference. Which is it? :)
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I proved you were mocking with this BS and didn't know what you are talking about. But you are free to ask those on the Right about how you did. See where you stand and all.

But I think we already know. So that's where it is at.....no matter how many times you come back for more.
 
MMC said:
I proved you were mocking with this BS and didn't know what you are talking about.
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You proved I mocked your assertions that ISIL would be taking measures that they should have taken if they're half as dangerous as you said they were? Wow. I bet that took a lot of effort. You're not really being serious are you? Look MMC, you've spent a year telling us that we should fear ISIL. Now all of a sudden, you are worried that they'll take a measure that you agreed would be logical if they have any military experience. That is what is absurd. Either they're as bad as you say they are and they've already taken the measures, or they're not and we have nothing to worry about. Which is it? :)
 
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Hatuey said:
You proved I mocked your assertions that ISIL would be taking measures that they should have taken if they're half as dangerous as you said they were? Wow. I bet that took a lot of effort. You're not really being serious are you? Look MMC, you've spent a year telling us that we should fear ISIL. Now all of a sudden, you are worried that they'll take a measure that you agreed would be logical if they have any military experience. That is what is absurd. Either they're as bad as you say they are and they've already taken the measure, or they're not and we have nothing to worry about. Which is it? :)
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Yeah, and like always I proved how you didn't know **** about taking Hostages or how these Iraqi forces would now be part of that scenario. Something else you couldn't figure out. Again exposing all that so called Military expertise that you don't have.

Oh and from the beginning I have said this problem was a everyones. So do get it Right.

You are the one that don't think they are so dangerous.....at least until they are standing next to you. Then we know how it all plays out with your type, especially when when it comes to cut and run, and as fast as you can.
 
MMC said:
Yeah, and like always I proved how you didn't know **** about taking Hostages or how these Iraqi forces would now be part of that scenario.
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Lol, I didn't know I had even discussed hostages or Iraqi forces. I asked you what you thought they'd be given time to do. You answered, and then I questioned your response. Then you conceded that they'd be doing these things regardless of whether we jumped in. When that was pointed out, you then claimed I'd said something about what ISIL wouldn't do. I asked you to show where, and you have so far failed to do so. So I ask again: Can you show where I discussed what ISIL wouldn't do? I bet you can't. ;)
 
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Far as non-binding oaths go, that one's the best.
 
eohrnberger said:
Democrats / Liberals / Progressives are not only poor leaders, they are especially poor military leaders.
They don't believe in operational security unless it's something bad they themselves did.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. Are there any past mistakes that this Obama administration isn't willing to repeat?
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herp derp... libruls bad herp derp.
 
Hatuey said:
Lol, I didn't know I had even discussed hostages or Iraqi forces. I asked you what you thought they'd be given time to do. You answered, and then I questioned your response. Then you conceded that they'd be doing these things regardless of whether we jumped in. When that was pointed out, you then claimed I'd said something about what ISIL wouldn't do. I asked you to show where, and you have so far failed to do so. So I ask again: Can you show where I discussed what ISIL wouldn't do? I bet you can't. ;)
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Well, you did and your post with what you had to say was shown for viewers. Nah, I am not all into your little head game and playing with the pages that flip over. Its as I said and that's where you stand. Especially since you wanted to make more out of it than what was really there. The thread is here to read in all its glory. One thing tho....not many will remember what you had to say and all now know, you have no military experience.

That's where your at with it.....the bottomline.
 
poweRob said:
herp derp... libruls bad herp derp.
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Let us guess.....this is a prelude of that leftist intelligence. Wherein we are suppose to believe the left has some smarts, Right?
 
MMC said:
Let us guess.....this is a prelude of that leftist intelligence. Wherein we are suppose to believe the left has some smarts, Right?
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You are too far partisan to believe otherwise so why waist the time trying to educate you?
 
poweRob said:
You are too far partisan to believe otherwise so why waist the time trying to educate you?
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You couldn't educate any with what you know about Politics, Rob. So come back down to earth and show some more of that partisanship and so called and self alleged intelligence.
 
MMC said:
You couldn't educate any with what you know about Politics, Rob. So come back down to earth and show some more of that partisanship and so called and self alleged intelligence.
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You are the one on the high horse. I've claimed nothing. Let's recap... I've not addressed you in this thread until you quoted me basically calling me stupid so... that's where we are at. Sorry if that puts a smudge mark on your superiority complex.
 
poweRob said:
You are the one on the high horse. I've claimed nothing. Let's recap... I've not addressed you in this thread until you quoted me basically calling me stupid so... that's where we are at. Sorry if that puts a smudge mark on your superiority complex.
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Oh not at all Rob.....didn't you hear BO peep, he said we all have to get off our high horses.

Well, I did address what you were projecting.
 
MMC said:
Oh not at all Rob.....didn't you hear BO peep, he said we all have to get off our high horses.

Well, I did address what you were projecting.
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Then perhaps you should stop itching for a spat. BTW... you did enter this thread on a high horse when addressing me so I guess Obama had your number.
 
poweRob said:
Then perhaps you should stop itching for a spat. BTW... you did enter this thread on a high horse when addressing me so I guess Obama had your number.
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Well, I always thought you were better than coming with that derp routine.

Was that after I kicked him in the head with my stirrup. :shock:
 
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