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Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

It all stems from the fact that he's a black man who got elected President of the United States. Twice. They have real difficulty in accepting that - in fact, most of them haven't accepted it. Hence the birth certificate, Muslim extremist, Marxist, Kenyan bull****.

Right, it can't have anything to do with his arrogance, lies, lackluster achievements, or the world burning as he takes selfies, can it?

All while many lefties proclaimed they voted for him to vote for the first black potus. :doh
 
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It is amazing watching all this far right crap unfold. Just amazing.

Mainstream historians, people who actually know what they are talking about, consider Obama to be a mainstream Democrat/centrist. American history books, responsible ones anyway, are not going to teach that Barack Obama was a "radical" leftist President. It's not going to happen because it is not reality.

Some of you right wingers on this site are little more than nuts.

If Obama is so left wing, and HAS been transforming America from the left, why does the political left express so much disappointment in him ?

I've never seen so many deluded people as there are in some of these threads. Six or seven years with your head in an echo chamber of nonsense will do that.
 
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You haven't read any of these posts?

OK, now we understand.

We're on page 63 of this thread; it gave up any pretense of serious discussion a LONG time ago.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

It all stems from the fact that he's a black man who got elected President of the United States. Twice. They have real difficulty in accepting that - in fact, most of them haven't accepted it.

Yep. And in 2012 during a weak economy Obama easily defeated the best the GOP had to offer. Romney should have won in 2012, he had everything going for him. But he got beat easily, and that scares the hell out of the Republicans.
 
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We're on page 63 of this thread; it gave up any pretense of serious discussion a LONG time ago.

I have never seen anyone admit to trolling before.

So if you aren't serious, what the **** are you doing here? I suppose Obama needs someone unwilling to have a "serious discussion" but for the life of me I cannot see how that improves his image in any way.

You are likely one of his stanchest defenders by far, and we have come all this way to find out it's all been a big ****ing joke to you? I guess that explains the state of the nation, still sucking on the economy, burning coal and gas faster than China, losing seven wars at once because Obama isn't serious.......it's all a big game to annoy not-Obama's
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

It is amazing watching all this far right crap unfold. Just amazing.

Mainstream historians, people who actually know what they are talking about, consider Obama to be a mainstream Democrat/centrist. American history books, responsible ones anyway, are not going to teach that Barack Obama was a "radical" leftist President. It's not going to happen because it is not reality.

Some of you right wingers on this site are little more than nuts.

If Obama is so left wing, and HAS been transforming America from the left, why does the political left express so much disappointment in him ?

I've never seen so many deluded people as there are in some of these threads. Six or seven years with your head in an echo chamber of nonsense will do that.

Of course the "historians" won't label him far left. They are even further left than he is.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

Right, it can't have anything to do with his arrogance, lies, lackluster achievements, or the world burning as he takes selfies, can it?

All while many lefties proclaimed they voted for him to vote for the first black potus. :doh



Well there is Valerie, Susan, Jen, Martin, Jeh, and Josh. Then Nancy, Dick, & Harry. Just sayin.

 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

I have never seen anyone admit to trolling before.

So if you aren't serious, what the **** are you doing here? I suppose Obama needs someone unwilling to have a "serious discussion" but for the life of me I cannot see how that improves his image in any way.

You are likely one of his stanchest defenders by far, and we have come all this way to find out it's all been a big ****ing joke to you? I guess that explains the state of the nation, still sucking on the economy, burning coal and gas faster than China, losing seven wars at once because Obama isn't serious.......it's all a big game to annoy not-Obama's

1. Wow, now you're outright lying about what I just said.

2. I haven't seen a "serious question" this entire thread.

3. I'm one of Obama's "staunchest defenders"? No, I'm not. Not even close. I've criticized him MANY times on numerous issues. However, I do "defend him" when right-wing hacks begin with the "he hates America" crap.

4. The entire last paragraph of your post is utterly ludicrous.
 
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Of course the "historians" won't label him far left. They are even further left than he is.

It's all one big leftist conspiracy!

Is there anything that ISN'T biased against those poor, persecuted conservatives?
 
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Look at the people that someone on this thread lists as the influences on Obama that have shaped his presidency. Ayers, Wright, Cornell West, Pfleger, etc.

ALL of these people have expressed great disappointment with Obama BECAUSE Obama did not listen to them and govern from the left.

To you people here constantly whining about Obama the socialist or whatever ever stop for a second and realize how silly you sound to people who actually understand what is going on ? Everything we see on these threads is obviously regurgitated from right wing media. Levin, Limbaugh, Dennis Prager, etc. , all these people whose livelihood is hitched to attacking Barack Obama.

90% of what we see on these threads is nonsense.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

1. Wow, now you're outright lying about what I just said.

2. I haven't seen a "serious question" this entire thread.

3. I'm one of Obama's "staunchest defenders"? No, I'm not. Not even close. I've criticized him MANY times on numerous issues. However, I do "defend him" when right-wing hacks begin with the "he hates America" crap.

4. The entire last paragraph of your post is utterly ludicrous.

How ****ing dare you accuse me of lying!

Nowhere did you say ever there we no "serious questions"...you clearly stated you have given up "serious conversation" and from this blatant false accusation that is about the only truthful thing you have ever said.

FFS you jammed yourself in a corner and to get out you falsely accuse ME of lying. That's Obama through and through.

"I have gave up serious conversation"

It stands
 
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It's all one big leftist conspiracy!

Is there anything that ISN'T biased against those poor, persecuted conservatives?

Years ago it use to be the liberals who were wimps and weak. Now it's gone 180, now the conservatives whine and cry about the liberal media, or the liberal teachers, and blame their woes and problems on everyone but themselves. A married Republican congressman could get caught on film with his pants down in a whore house but the conservatives won't blame the congressman, they'll blame the liberal media for reporting it.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

How ****ing dare you accuse me of lying!

Nowhere did you say ever there we no "serious questions"...you clearly stated you have given up "serious conversation" and from this blatant false accusation that is about the only truthful thing you have ever said.

FFS you jammed yourself in a corner and to get out you falsely accuse ME of lying. That's Obama through and through.

"I have gave up serious conversation"

It stands

Holy ****. That's not what I said. Go back and read it again.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

I have never seen anyone admit to trolling before.

So if you aren't serious, what the **** are you doing here? I suppose Obama needs someone unwilling to have a "serious discussion" but for the life of me I cannot see how that improves his image in any way.

You are likely one of his stanchest defenders by far, and we have come all this way to find out it's all been a big ****ing joke to you? I guess that explains the state of the nation, still sucking on the economy, burning coal and gas faster than China, losing seven wars at once because Obama isn't serious.......it's all a big game to annoy not-Obama's

Koby's trolling knows no bounds. He's here to defend the president-thats all.
 
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But not seriously.

"I gave up having serious conversations."

It's all a joke to him

Thats why while I will extend a serious question to him, he's never able to substantively respond. At least here he admits it.
Kobie should address why Obama not loving America is such a prevalent view.
 
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Years ago it use to be the liberals who were wimps and weak. Now it's gone 180, now the conservatives whine and cry about the liberal media, or the liberal teachers, and blame their woes and problems on everyone but themselves. A married Republican congressman could get caught on film with his pants down in a whore house but the conservatives won't blame the congressman, they'll blame the liberal media for reporting it.

"I inherited this mess"

"It's Bush's fault"

"I learned about it on TV just lie you did"

Wimps?

Look to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue and the guy whose afraid to attack ISIS.

Then we can talk about wimps whining....
 
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Thats why while I will extend a serious question to him, he's never able to substantively respond. At least here he admits it.
Kobie should address why Obama not loving America is such a prevalent view.



Obama not loving America is only one, new, aspect of this slithering misfit president has to offer. Space does not allow me to list the many many deficiencies, failed ideas and nostrums, lies and stupidity.

The end result is the nation is worse off in every category than when he was elected, amid the great poo bah lecturing Americans about what is Islam and what is not and whose major thrust of his last two years in office is higher minimum wage and letting illegals steel more American jobs while vetoing years of highly paid construction jobs.

Where's the love? Not feeling it....
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

Koby's trolling knows no bounds. He's here to defend the president-thats all.

So what? If that were to be the case. I don't think it is, but so what if it was ?

There CLEARLY are people here who simply want to attack Obama. Most likely because their brains have been washed and dry cleaned by listening to a literally endless drumbeat of nonsense from right wing media.

I see many people on these threads whose courage is bucked up by this echo chamber of libertarian wackos, closet racists, and wannabe John Birchers.

Obama is a centrist president, and that is how he will be described in the history books. There is NO ONE who is not a right wing nut job who considers Obama to be a radical socialist traitor. NO ONE.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

Obama not loving America is only one, new, aspect of this slithering misfit president has to offer. Space does not allow me to list the many many deficiencies, failed ideas and nostrums, lies and stupidity.

The end result is the nation is worse off in every category than when he was elected, amid the great poo bah lecturing Americans about what is Islam and what is not and whose major thrust of his last two years in office is higher minimum wage and letting illegals steel more American jobs while vetoing years of highly paid construction jobs.

Where's the love? Not feeling it....

Theres no love. Theres no competency. Theres no strategy. This guy skated through life getting everything handed to him, and than later being a community organizer. He grew up with distorted views of America.

From his view, America is getting its medicine and thats a good thing. At this stage, I can't blame things merely on his being incompetent. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, and he's not.

There will be more of this to come, hes a lame duck and does not care what others think.
 
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Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

So what? If that were to be the case. I don't think it is, but so what if it was ?

There CLEARLY are people here who simply want to attack Obama. Most likely because their brains have been washed and dry cleaned by listening to a literally endless drumbeat of nonsense from right wing media.

I see many people on these threads whose courage is bucked up by this echo chamber of libertarian wackos, closet racists, and wannabe John Birchers.

Obama is a centrist president, and that is how he will be described in the history books. There is NO ONE who is not a right wing nut job who considers Obama to be a radical socialist traitor. NO ONE.

Could it be your mindset is distorted? You dont see logical and reasonable criticism as anything but attacks from "irrational" people-you (without evidence) write them off as racists or whackos. Its intellectually lazy, but its what we've come to expect from the left-why understand the other guys arguments when you can fling poo?
 
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