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Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

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I don't know many people that would openly seek out a flamethrower racist and America hater as Obama has, and sit in that Church of Odd and be mentored by the scum. In fact, most people would run from that poison, and rightly so. Not Obama... like a fly to a halogen light... he went right at it, and circled that light for 20-years. A light that is close to another hunk of poison called Louis Farrakhan.

I don't know many people with half a brain on a political path that would seek out and team up with a terrorist like Ayers.

Alinsky. Communist. Obama sought him out as well.

With just these, you draw a line back, and it connects to events in his youth.

The only thing shady in all this is the press running cover, and people sticking their heads in the sand after 6-years.

Alinsky! Everybody drink!

Alinsky's been dead for 40 years.
 
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Lol, how disingenuous of you. Nobody thought that Saddam was a swell leader. All the arguments you make above were laid out, and Americans weren't fully buying it, there was plenty of opposition, which warranted ratcheting up the hyperbole. Until we were hearing things like, "do we have to wait for the smoking gun in the form of a mushroom cloud over a US city"? There never was such smoking gun. With any of the chemical bio or nuclear systems he ever had before or after Gulf War 1, he had nothing, nor any delivery systems that threatened us as we were to be frightened by statements like the one quoted above.

Tonight on 60 Minutes, Tyler Drumheller, the former chief of the CIA’s Europe division, revealed that in the fall of 2002, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, then-National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice and others were told by CIA Director George Tenet that Iraq’s foreign minister — who agreed to act as a spy for the United States — had reported that Iraq had no active weapons of mass destruction program.

60 Minutes: CIA Official Reveals Bush, Cheney, Rice Were Personally Told Iraq Had No WMD in Fall 2002 | ThinkProgress

I don't see what bearing the words of George Tenet has over any evidence gathered by the IAEA or the UN.
 
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I don't see what bearing the words of George Tenet has over any evidence gathered by the IAEA or the UN.

Other than corroboration, nothing I suppose.

Blix's statements about the Iraq WMD program came to contradict the claims of the George W. Bush administration,[6] and attracted a great deal of criticism from supporters of the invasion of Iraq. In an interview on BBC 1 on 8 February 2004, Blix accused the US and British governments of dramatizing the threat of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, in order to strengthen the case for the 2003 war against the government of Saddam Hussein. Ultimately, no stockpiles of weapons of mass destruction were ever found.[7]

Hans Blix - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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Alinsky! Everybody drink!

Alinsky's been dead for 40 years.

This is as lame as Obama's response to Ayers and his terrorist acts, claiming they were done 40-years ago when he was 8-years old.

Alinsky was a Communist who created a manifesto popular with the Left that both Obama and The Clinton Crime Family, and most demokrats use.

The beauty of DP... sometimes... is when Libs respond, and after years they are still unable to craft any sort of legitimate defense. You get to see how shallow they are, and how they cling bitterly to a failed ideology and in this instance, how they have no defense for one of theirs who has become president and a menace to society.
 
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This is as lame as Obama's response to Ayers and his terrorist acts, claiming they were done 40-years ago when he was 8-years old.

Alinsky was a Communist who created a manifesto popular with the Left that both Obama and The Clinton Crime Family, and most demokrats use.

The beauty of DP... sometimes... is when Libs respond, and after years they are still unable to craft any sort of legitimate defense. You get to see how shallow they are, and how they cling bitterly to a failed ideology and in this instance, how they have no defense for one of theirs who has become president and a menace to society.

I agree that his response was lame.
 
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Is it possible to both love something AND want to fundamentally change it at the same time?
 
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Is it possible to both love something AND want to fundamentally change it at the same time?

Absolutely. Ask anyone whose spouse or significant other has a drinking problem.
 
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Alinsky! Everybody drink!

Alinsky's been dead for 40 years.

Is that the best response you have? You do realize that it's the works of Alinksky that are at issue, yes?

Your statement is like saying Obama isn't a Christian because Jesus died 2000 years ago.
 
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Is that the best response you have? You do realize that it's the works of Alinksky that are at issue, yes?

Your statement is like saying Obama isn't a Christian because Jesus died 2000 years ago.

The Alinsky crap is a pointless, stupid argument.
 
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Absolutely. Ask anyone whose spouse or significant other has a drinking problem.

Actually, no. For a person to love an alcoholic they have to believe that there is a person worth loving aside from the alcoholism.
 
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Actually, no. For a person to love an alcoholic they have to believe that there is a person worth loving aside from the alcoholism.

Precisely my point. Loving America and acknowledging its flaws are two different things that are not mutually exclusive.
 
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The President certainly isn't loathe to acknowledge his country's flaws.
 
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The President certainly isn't loathe to acknowledge his country's flaws.

Good. Acknowledging flaws is a prerequisite to fixing them.

One thing I've found many conservatives don't like about Obama is he tells them things they simply do not want to hear.
 
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Is that the best response you have? You do realize that it's the works of Alinksky that are at issue, yes?

Your statement is like saying Obama isn't a Christian because Jesus died 2000 years ago.

At the bended knee of this man

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came your last GOP presidential candidate.

"I think you ought to listen to Alinsky." George Romney
 
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Precisely my point. Loving America and acknowledging its flaws are two different things that are not mutually exclusive.

You miss the point. Fundamental change is not "acknowledging flaws" it is a belief in the fundamental wrongness of something.
 
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At the bended knee of this man

RomneyAlinski.jpg


came your last GOP presidential candidate.

"I think you ought to listen to Alinsky." George Romney


Good thing I never voted for George Romney!
 
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Is it possible to both love something AND want to fundamentally change it at the same time?

When it comes to a country, and as Obama has espoused it... No.
 
Re: Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America

Apparently, the man was elected to the presidency twice. And even for those supporters that don't appreciate "all things Obama" they didn't consider that he didn't love America. And those few that actually believe that are indeed few.
 
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The Alinsky crap is a pointless, stupid argument.

It's fundamental to who he is, as is Wright, Farrakhan, Ayers...

It's pointless to Leftists because they have no defense for it. It's like Hillary screeching... "what does it matter anyway"... well ...

... It does matter.
 
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Like I stated... no rebuttal possible from the Left.

For some it might be difficult to believe they voted for a guy who doesn't love the country... for many on the Left it doesn't matter because they don't love the country either.
 
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