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Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn’t love America[W:649]

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Montecresto said:
Oh, I see. And you presume to speak for everyone, lol. What a crock of ****. You'd have a fit if you were Scott Walker, and distance yourself as much as possible, or refuse to comment, as Walker thinks he's going to get away with.
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Someone (you) who wasn't going to vote for Walker anyway thinks that Walker is going to try to "get away with" something. He isn't Rudy Giuliani. He's Scott Walker. No reasonable non-partisan person thinks that Walker has any ownership for Rudy's words. He doesn't. And when I said "I'll personalize it too.", that actually means I don't speak for everyone. It means I speak for myself.

By the way, you're speaking for Scott Walker. You're deciding what he should feel about it, and what he should do. I doubt he's interested in doing what liberals want him to do. Just a guess.
 
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Montecresto said:
“I do not believe, and I know this is a horrible thing to say, but I do not believe that the president loves America,” Giuliani said during the dinner at the 21 Club, a former Prohibition-era speakeasy in midtown Manhattan. “He doesn’t love you. And he doesn’t love me. He wasn’t brought up the way you were brought up and I was brought up through love of this country.”

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Seems to me he's got no other office to run for so he can say any idiotic thing he wants. But Scott Walker was in the room, and he would like to be the next president, lol. Why people think they can say **** like this when they're in private meetings in a day when everyone has a phone with audio and video capabilities.
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Here's a quick quiz:
1) Who promised to fundamentally transform the United States?
( ) Barack Obama
( ) Rudy Giuliani

Short essay question for extra credit:
Why would you want to fundamentally transform something you love?
 
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Funny. He criticize Obama for not loving his country, yet won't criticize members of his own party for talking about succeeding from the US.
 
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Montecresto said:
It would appear I've failed to make my point. I'll personalise it, maybe that will help. If I'm the potential presidential candidate at a smallish meeting of supporters, and a somewhat heavy hitter like Giuliani has been invited because I know my supporters respect him and would appreciate seeing him support me, and he got up and said that, I'm mortified, and really pissed, and I'm in the back corner or back room afterward saying, "thanks a lot Rudy".
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Interesting point. Be patient. Sometimes it takes 20 years or more.

"... ' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." - Jeremiah Wright as reported by ABC NEWS

And sometimes it neeeever quite gets there.

"Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon." - ABC NEWS
 
Fenton said:
Scott Walker said Obama didn't love his Country ?

How is this about Scott Walker again ?
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You were reasonable enough to condemn what Giuliani said. Do you think Scott Walker is going to continue to have no comment, or do you think reason will eventually prevail with him, hmm?
 
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bubbabgone said:
Interesting point. Be patient. Sometimes it takes 20 years or more.

"... ' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." - Jeremiah Wright as reported by ABC NEWS

And sometimes it neeeever quite gets there.

"Sen. Obama told the New York Times he was not at the church on the day of Rev. Wright's 9/11 sermon." - ABC NEWS
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Obama should have embraced the pastors remarks. He too took the ***** way out.
 
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Montecresto said:
Obama should have embraced the pastors remarks. He too took the ***** way out.
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So he should have said he agreed.
Then you and Rudy are in sync so what's the problem?
 
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bubbabgone said:
Here's a quick quiz:
1) Who promised to fundamentally transform the United States?
( ) Barack Obama
( ) Rudy Giuliani

Short essay question for extra credit:
Why would you want to fundamentally transform something you love?
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I love Blackie, my 1994 black on silver Chevrolet Z-71 pick-up. Two years ago I completely transformed it into my ranch truck, installing a flat bed on it with generator, compressor and a compound saw. I also put a three inch lift kit on it and 8-ply tires. I love it even more now!
 
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bubbabgone said:
So he should have said he agreed.
Then you and Rudy are in sync so what's the problem?
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I disagree that the pastors remarks mean that he doesn't love America, but that he wants America to stop mistreating its own citizens while masquerading as benevolent, and perfect as though god.
 
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Montecresto said:
I love Blackie, my 1994 black on silver Chevrolet Z-71 pick-up. Two years ago I completely transformed it into my ranch truck, installing a flat bed on it with generator, compressor and a compound saw. I also put a three inch lift kit on it and 8-ply tires. I love it even more now!
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So now it's unrecognizable and that makes you love it more.

Not relevant to the topic, but what do you do ... if you care say. That compound saw thing peaked my interest.
 
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Montecresto said:
I disagree that the pastors remarks mean that he doesn't love America, but that he wants
America to stop mistreating its own citizens
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while masquerading as benevolent, and perfect as though god.
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At the risk of having 2 thread streams going, let me just say that Wright & Obama want to transform the USA into something it wasn't intended to be.
 
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bubbabgone said:
So now it's unrecognizable and that makes you love it more.

Not relevant to the topic, but what do you do ... if you care say. That compound saw thing peaked my interest.
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I have a ranch, and miles of fencing and outbuildings and the like, and the equipment I mounted is for maintenance of it. Or are you asking me what a compound (mitre) saw is used for? And no, everybody that has seen my ranch truck recognises it as the truck I've always had, albeit improved.
 
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bubbabgone said:
At the risk of having 2 thread streams going, let me just say that Wright & Obama want to transform the USA into something it wasn't intended to be.
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Not sure what you mean there bubba, and don't want to get pinged by a moderator.
 
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Montecresto said:
I have a ranch, and miles of fencing and outbuildings and the like, and the equipment I mounted is for maintenance of it. Or are you asking me what a compound (mitre) saw is used for? And no, everybody that has seen my ranch truck recognises it as the truck I've always had, albeit improved.
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Oh I know what it is.
I was curious why you'd have one mounted on your truck unless you were in construction or the like.
And now I know it's "the like".
Where's your ranch?
Getting any snow?
 
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bubbabgone said:
Oh I know what it is.
I was curious why you'd have one mounted on your truck unless you were in construction or the like.
And now I know it's "the like".
Where's your ranch?
Getting any snow?
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Eastern OK, right up against the Ark. Border, mostly ice and freezing rain over this way.
 
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Montecresto said:
Not sure what you mean there bubba, and don't want to get pinged by a moderator.
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heh heh ... I meant asking you about your work and commenting on the thread topic in the same thread.
I'm thinking there's gotta be a point violation warranted if I continue.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't think Rudy should have said what he did. I think it was a pretty petty and disingenuous of him. But what does Scott Walker have to do with anything?
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Walker for all intents and purposes is the next President of the United States. I'm predicting this right now, Today. Though its hardly because of this incident. He can do one of two things. He can either, say he disagrees with Giuliani, or come out hitting Obama harder, but staying within certain restrictions. One up Obama. One up his own patriotism by going out there and doing patriotic American Exceptional things. I do think he can easily come out with this being more popular than he already is with Ronald Reagan-esque ads and speeches being examples of what he can use for his political advantage.

Why he was hanging with Giuliani, I have no idea. Had no idea he was so powerful within the upper echelons of the GOP. He's never cited as a big backer, just a pundit, campaigner.
 
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Montecresto said:
Eastern OK, right up against the Ark. Border, mostly ice and freezing rain over this way.
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I've got to say, I'm more tired of this winter than others I can remember.
And we haven't had that much snow ... but the frigging cold temps are insane.

Didn't I just hear something about OK earthquake warnings or some such thing?
 
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bubbabgone said:
I've got to say, I'm more tired of this winter than others I can remember.
And we haven't had that much snow ... but the frigging cold temps are insane.

Didn't I just hear something about OK earthquake warnings or some such thing?
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Yep, much fraking being blamed.
 
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tres borrachos said:
Someone (you) who wasn't going to vote for Walker anyway thinks that Walker is going to try to "get away with" something. He isn't Rudy Giuliani. He's Scott Walker. No reasonable non-partisan person thinks that Walker has any ownership for Rudy's words. He doesn't. And when I said "I'll personalize it too.", that actually means I don't speak for everyone. It means I speak for myself.

By the way, you're speaking for Scott Walker. You're deciding what he should feel about it, and what he should do. I doubt he's interested in doing what liberals want him to do. Just a guess.
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Broad brush much, you haven't seen a libertarian streak too? Anyway. Walker doesn't own those words if he distances himself from them by condemning them as you did.
 
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I think President Obama loves his country. I know for a fact he absolutely adores its President.
 
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CanadaJohn said:
I think President Obama loves his country. I know for a fact he absolutely adores its President.
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Where'd you get that idea from??

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CanadaJohn said:
I think President Obama loves his country. I know for a fact he absolutely adores its President.
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How profound of you.
 
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bubbabgone said:
I've got to say, I'm more tired of this winter than others I can remember.
And we haven't had that much snow ... but the frigging cold temps are insane.

Didn't I just hear something about OK earthquake warnings or some such thing?
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AMEN brother. I live in Rochester NY, and I'm done with it, bring on the spring. :)

Tim-
 
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