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Scott Walker cut $541 million in taxes last year. Now his state will miss a $108 mill

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MrVicchio said:
Yes it works sooo welll there's a number that says you're wrong. 18 trillion.
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History. It's not your friend.
 
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poweRob said:
... I deal with UPS and FEDEX every day and they are telling me how Amazon is really boosting the workload. And that Amazon Groceries of all things is really starting to expand in their deliveries. Boosted their workload this year so much that they didn't do any post seasonal layoffs here.

Lots of mail order stuff getting big these days.
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I'm fortunate enough to be located only a few miles from an Amazon distribution center, and less than a mile from a major UPS hub.

This year UPS placed several orders of hundreds of decals for trailers from my business. They needed these decals because they had rented all the trailers they could locate to accommodate their contract with Amazon, who was requiring that every UPS trailer be marked before it was allowed onto Amazon property.

Every time they placed an order they needed the decals immediately, and I had my small staff working overtime late into the night to produce these, but honestly, it was a nice bonus for all of us, and was some of the the easiest money I ever made. I'm really loving the UPS/Amazon relationship.

I also ordered a computer from Amazon online on a Sunday evening, and Monday a post office carrier put it into my hands - it was the fastest delivery of anything I have ever ordered in my life.
 
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poweRob said:
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History. It's not your friend.
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It's rarely the friend of the conservative narrative.

I was a stanch republican for most of my life. Then I started studying economic history and discovered that conservative rhetoric doesn't match economic history. What's funny is that the reason I started studying economic history was to prove my conservative rhetoric on a forum, I was devastated when I realized that I couldn't - it was like discovering that the Easter Bunny wasn't real.
 
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imagep said:
It's rarely the friend of the conservative narrative.

I was a stanch republican for most of my life. Then I started studying economic history and discovered that conservative rhetoric doesn't match economic history. What's funny is that the reason I started studying economic history was to prove my conservative rhetoric on a forum, I was devastated when I realized that I couldn't - it was like discovering that the Easter Bunny wasn't real.
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To be fair, most "conservative history and rhetoric" does not match historical fact... it is one of rights main problem.. admitting that they are wrong.
 
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poweRob said:
The accelerated funding was Republicans trying to hamstring the USPS. The mandate is ridiculous. The GAO was simply saying "since this mandate is now in place, the USPS needs to focus on how to fund it."

I was a postman once for a short while and I realize the slowdown of the mail because they do a mail audit every year which is why I don't work there anymore because you have to be a temp for several years before you get a route and after a mail audit they redesign the routes and due to the slow down my hours got cut from 40/week to 8/week because of consolidated routes.

That being said the USPS is still very profitable without that stupid mandate. And parcel service is on the rise. I deal with UPS and FEDEX every day and they are telling me how Amazon is really boosting the workload. And that Amazon Groceries of all things is really starting to expand in their deliveries. Boosted their workload this year so much that they didn't do any post seasonal layoffs here.

Lots of mail order stuff getting big these days.
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Well, there is opinion, and then there are facts. I appreciate your opinion, but I'll stick to the facts.

Best to fund the pension plan when there are 1000 employees rather than try to do it with 100 years later. Those are the facts. You're welcome to hate on Republicans while doing everything you can to ignore the facts.
 
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Re: Scott Walker cut $541 million in taxes last year. Now his state will miss a $108

Lets spend more to increase the deficit to 0nmje billion gazillion golden dinars in the fine tradition of liberalism. Walker For President!!!!!!!!
 
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ocean515 said:
Ok, then I'm a bit confused to the interpretation your trying to push.

The GAO pointed out that the future business model of the USPS showed fewer employees and dwindling sales. At the same time the USPS was refusing to address the growing time bomb of unfunded pension liabilities. The accelerated funding was to insure future obligations could be met as the USPS got smaller in size and fewer employees could be counted on to meet pension obligations. Rationally, that's evident to everyone considering the impact of the internet and email.

Further, to push the "they are profitable" is to ignore the massive unfunded liabilities that remain in the face of continued shift away from the primary services the USPS provides. It is disingenuous for someone to suggest a company is profitable when it's not meeting it's financial obligations, and as it gets smaller, won't have a problem meeting them in the future.

So what exactly did the Republicans do that isn't reflected in the GAO report and I seem to be missing from your posts?
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it is the buggy whip analogy

continue to get a larger share of a shrinking market.....while costs continue to rise

eventually you go broke

the usps needs to be fixed......

whether that means mail 3x a week...no saturday or sunday delivery, longer tenure until retirement, etc

so much correspondence now is done through email.....

yes...we still use mail also, but the amount of things we mail has declined every year for the last 10

i dont have the answers....but i can see when something is broke

the usps is broken......someone needs a ****load of elmers glue to ut this back together the right way
 
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Fletch said:
Nor is it yours. Nearly $8 trillion of that $18 trillion has been amassed under one man: Obama.
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If only he were as good as Reagan at tripling the debt.
 
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SlevinKelevra said:
If only he were as good as Reagan at tripling the debt.
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Yeah, Reagan raised the debt from one to three trillion in 8 years.

Obama raised it almost $8 trillion in 6 years.

If you really think that is comparable, it is obvious that you failed math along with logical thinking courses in school.
 
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Gill said:
Yeah, Reagan raised the debt from one to three trillion in 8 years.

Obama raised it almost $8 trillion in 6 years.

If you really think that is comparable, it is obvious that you failed math along with logical thinking courses in school.
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Why would you say that. One president tripled it, and the other doubled it. Neither is a good thing.
 
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Montecresto said:
Why would you say that. One president tripled it, and the other doubled it. Neither is a good thing.
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Ok, I'll play your game.....

Which do you prefer?

1. You invest $1 and earn $2

or

2. You invest $10 and earn $8


Surely, you prefer #1 since you are tripling your money, right ????
 
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Gill said:
Ok, I'll play your game.....

Which do you prefer?

1. You invest $1 and earn $2

or

2. You invest $10 and earn $8


Surely, you prefer #1 since you are tripling your money, right ????
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It depends on what my other investment opportunities are, whether I can borrow additional funds and at what interest rate, and how much I have to invest.
 
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imagep said:
It depends on what my other investment opportunities are, whether I can borrow additional funds and at what interest rate, and how much I have to invest.
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Poor attempt at a dodge....

You're dismissed.
 
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Gill said:
Yeah, Reagan raised the debt from one to three trillion in 8 years.

Obama raised it almost $8 trillion in 6 years.

If you really think that is comparable, it is obvious that you failed math along with logical thinking courses in school.
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There is also the consequences of positive debt and negative debt. There doesn't seem to be any benefit for the American people for the $trillions added to the Obama debt but Reagan's debt, working with a Democrat Congress, had long term positive effects.

Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes
 
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Gill said:
Yeah, Reagan raised the debt from one to three trillion in 8 years.

Obama raised it almost $8 trillion in 6 years.

If you really think that is comparable, it is obvious that you failed math along with logical thinking courses in school.
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You also have to take into account inflation and the size of our economy and population and the perceived need to spend an extra trillion + to avoid the recession becoming a depression.

If you are concerned about the debt, then just be glad that Obama didn't triple the debt, and that the deficit has been falling for years.
 
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Grant said:
There is also the consequences of positive debt and negative debt. There doesn't seem to be any benefit for the American people for the $trillions added to the Obama debt but Reagan's debt, working with a Democrat Congress, had long term positive effects.

Reaganomics Vs. Obamanomics: Facts And Figures - Forbes
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I dunno so much about that. The Obama era economy recovered in some measures faster than the Regain era economy (including the unemployment rate), the Obama era economy didn't double dip, and didn't have nearly as much inflation. There is certainly no way to prove one way or the other who's spending on what caused what. It just is what it is.
 
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imagep said:
You also have to take into account inflation and the size of our economy and population and the perceived need to spend an extra trillion + to avoid the recession becoming a depression.

If you are concerned about the debt, then just be glad that Obama didn't triple the debt, and that the deficit has been falling for years.
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Yeah, I'll forever be grateful to Obama for adding $8 + trillion dollars to my grandchildren's debt.

:roll:
 
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imagep said:
You also have to take into account inflation and the size of our economy and population and the perceived need to spend an extra trillion + to avoid the recession becoming a depression.

If you are concerned about the debt, then just be glad that Obama didn't triple the debt, and that the deficit has been falling for years.
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That doubling and tripling explanation doesn't really work. $8 trillion to $24 trillions is a great deal more than $1 to 3 trillion.

You may not be familiar with the Carter years or the Reagan years but there is good reason why Carter was defeated after one term and Ronald Reagan winning every state but one in his relection.
 
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SlevinKelevra said:
Veey good. I got you to read it after all. :)

Considering I joined here during his term, and I just learned about this today, no I have not criticised his predecessors
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wow. you are a poser.

you got served son. bwahahaha
 
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Gill said:
Yeah, I'll forever be grateful to Obama for adding $8 + trillion dollars to my grandchildren's debt.

:roll:
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It's a debt that they will never have to repay, just like we aren't having to repay the Regain debt.

Our standard of living is based upon our production per capita and distribution of income, not the federal debt. Unless you expect that our nation will become less productive during your grandchildren's years (which is highly unlikely due to improvements in technology), their standard of living will be at least as high, and most likely much higher than ours has been. The federal debt is just an accounting issue.
 
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imagep said:
I dunno so much about that. The Obama era economy recovered in some measures faster than the Regain era economy (including the unemployment rate), the Obama era economy didn't double dip, and didn't have nearly as much inflation. There is certainly no way to prove one way or the other who's spending on what caused what. It just is what it is.
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Haha... you're funny.

It's obvious you didn't live during the mess Carter created and Reagan fixed. It was practically impossible to buy a house then.
 
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Grant said:
That doubling and tripling explanation doesn't really work. $8 trillion to $24 trillions is a great deal more than $1 to 3 trillion.

You may not be familiar with the Carter years or the Reagan years but there is good reason why Carter was defeated after one term and Ronald Reagan winning every state but one in his relection.
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Carter was defeated due to two factors. The first factor was the Iran hostage situation, the second factor was the OPEC oil embargos which jacked up not only the price of gas, but caused widespread inflation. This OPEC/inflation situation continued into the first couple of years of the Reagan administration, during which time he was also very unpopular. Per year in office, more jobs were actually created under Carter than under Regain, and aside from inflation our economy was fairly sound.
 
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Gill said:
Yeah, I'll forever be grateful to Obama for adding $8 + trillion dollars to my grandchildren's debt.:roll:
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But at least the infrastructure of the country is strong, the people are free and united, and the country is at peace. Worth every trillion.
 
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