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Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

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WASHINGTON — They’re burning and beheading victims in the name of Islam, but President Obama delivered a major speech Wednesday on combating violent extremism — while refusing to use the words “Muslim terrorists.”

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“No religion is responsible for terrorism — people are responsible for violence and terrorism,” Obama told a crowd that included Muslim community leaders at the White House.

Obama refuses to acknowledge
 
Yeah, well when you've got three Muslim students (completely peaceful, wonderful human beings by all accounts) murdered and a lot of the media attention has portrayed it as a hate crime, it's not a surprise that our President is trying to emphasize the fact that the worst human beings in the world aren't valid representatives of a religion that millions of Americans believe in. From Obama:

"They try to portray themselves as religious leaders, holy warriors in defense of Islam," he said. "We must never accept the premise that they put forward because it is a lie. Nor should we grant these terrorists the religious legitimacy that they seek. They are not religious leaders. They are terrorists."

I love repeating the fact that Obama is just a figurehead, which I completely believe, so I don't really care one way or the other. But I think that spinning the White House's refusal to come out and say "see this brutality? This is what Muslims do" into "Obama refuses to admit that Islamic extremism motivates ISIS" is completely garbage. It's a lie. But it's being repeated often enough that I won't be surprised if it becomes the truth in the the near future.
 
There's nothing here, no story, move on people!
 
Yeah, well when you've got three Muslim students (completely peaceful, wonderful human beings by all accounts) murdered and a lot of the media attention has portrayed it as a hate crime, it's not a surprise that our President is trying to emphasize the fact that the worst human beings in the world aren't valid representatives of a religion that millions of Americans believe in. From Obama:



I love repeating the fact that Obama is just a figurehead, which I completely believe, so I don't really care one way or the other. But I think that spinning the White House's refusal to come out and say "see this brutality? This is what Muslims do" into "Obama refuses to admit that Islamic extremism motivates ISIS" is completely garbage. It's a lie. But it's being repeated often enough that I won't be surprised if it becomes the truth in the the near future.

I have heard about the atheist that killed those muslims-tragic. However this was a "summit" on terrorism, and he couldn't even put the words together, according to the article the world Islam wasn't even said once.

Thats a problem, we can't win the war on terror if POTUS wont admit where the problem lies.
 
WASHINGTON — They’re burning and beheading victims in the name of Islam, but President Obama delivered a major speech Wednesday on combating violent extremism — while refusing to use the words “Muslim terrorists.”

obama_white_house_fighting_extremism.jpg


“No religion is responsible for terrorism — people are responsible for violence and terrorism,” Obama told a crowd that included Muslim community leaders at the White House.

Obama refuses to acknowledge

He's not wrong.
 
WASHINGTON — They’re burning and beheading victims in the name of Islam, but President Obama delivered a major speech Wednesday on combating violent extremism — while refusing to use the words “Muslim terrorists.”

obama_white_house_fighting_extremism.jpg


“No religion is responsible for terrorism — people are responsible for violence and terrorism,” Obama told a crowd that included Muslim community leaders at the White House.

Obama refuses to acknowledge

I know you must THINK that this makes Obama look bad, but if you weren't wearing your little partisan blinders you'd see that what you just quoted him as saying here is in accord with what most reasonable people on the planet believe.
 
I have heard about the atheist that killed those muslims-tragic. However this was a "summit" on terrorism, and he couldn't even put the words together, according to the article the world Islam wasn't even said once.

Thats a problem, we can't win the war on terror if POTUS wont admit where the problem lies.

Are you seriously saying that by Obama using the word "Muslim", ISIS will suddenly be defeated?

I know it's hard for you to grasp, but what Obama is doing is denying them legitimacy, they derive their authority from their religion, by not acknowledging that, he's taking away a chunk of propaganda they might otherwise be able to utilise. It has no ill effect on the US, military strategy is not dependent upon the use of one word by one person, and it harms ISIS.
 
Are you seriously saying that by Obama using the word "Muslim", ISIS will suddenly be defeated?

I know it's hard for you to grasp, but what Obama is doing is denying them legitimacy, they derive their authority from their religion, by not acknowledging that, he's taking away a chunk of propaganda they might otherwise be able to utilise. It has no ill effect on the US, military strategy is not dependent upon the use of one word by one person, and it harms ISIS.

Im saying we have a leader who wont dare utter the problem. His PC spin prevents this.
 
I know you must THINK that this makes Obama look bad, but if you weren't wearing your little partisan blinders you'd see that what you just quoted him as saying here is in accord with what most reasonable people on the planet believe.

This was a terror summit, after over a year of ISIS beheadings and he can't even say the words. What a lion of a President he is!
 
Kobie, is he right? It must get tiresome defending him at some point.

It gets tiresome, actually, seeing the same lame partisan attacks from anti-liberals over, and over, and over again.
 
Im saying we have a leader who wont dare utter the problem. His PC spin prevents this.

Again, I know you don't want to read it because it causes cognitive dissonance, but Obama's disassociation of ISIS and Islam only serves to undermine ISIS's authority, it doesn't affect military strategy.
 
Again, I know you don't want to read it because it causes cognitive dissonance, but Obama's disassociation of ISIS and Islam only serves to undermine ISIS's authority, it doesn't affect military strategy.

Obama's trying to separate islam from terrorism and nobodies buying it. :2wave:

Undermine with who? Is it working yet?
 
Yes, because by doing so he doesn't isolate the majority of the people fighting against ISIS.



Absolutely.

What people fighting against ISIS? The ones who would be doing it anyway? You think the Kurds, Egyptians, and Jordanians wouldn't be fighting if Obama called them what they are-Islamic terrorists?
 
Obama won't call it what it is because that would be blasphemy. In the eyes of Islam, Jihadist (warriors) are holy men. To speak ill of them would be wrong in that religion. To them, these are not "Islamic terrorist," but Holy Warriors, thus it's why he won't put the two words together.

"We are not at war with Islam."

A repeated phrase he uses quite often, which in his eyes are correct. He is not at war with Islam, but Islam is at war with us, which is something he won't add into that phrase. The fact is we ar at war with Islam, whether we wish to believe it or not.
 
It gets tiresome, actually, seeing the same lame partisan attacks from anti-liberals over, and over, and over again.
"Anti-liberals"? Oh what a victim you are...:roll:
 
Yes, because by doing so he doesn't isolate the majority of the people fighting against ISIS.



Absolutely.
Pew says according to their survey as many as 22% of Muslims world wide believe in this Jihad on the west. And an even wider % are loathed to stand up to those within doing this genocide against non believers in Islam. Here in the civilized world if you stand by and say nothing while a crime is committed, then you are guilty too. Why is this all of the sudden not applicable to this?

You say this weak kneed approach is working? How? Because so far, they have become a larger force, and more brazen. I don't see anything but failwd policy here on Obama's part....
 
Again, I know you don't want to read it because it causes cognitive dissonance, but Obama's disassociation of ISIS and Islam only serves to undermine ISIS's authority, it doesn't affect military strategy.

Exactly, and this was learned by the end of the Bush administration too. All reference to Islamic extremism and jihad were expunged from the BA vocabulary, in their last year.
 
"Anti-liberals"? Oh what a victim you are...:roll:

Please. It's not a "victim" thing at all. What else would YOU call someone who does nothing but baselessly smear "the left" 24-7? I thought conservatives actually fought for conservative principles, rather than sitting around whining about liberals.
 
Obama won't call it what it is because that would be blasphemy. In the eyes of Islam, Jihadist (warriors) are holy men. To speak ill of them would be wrong in that religion. To them, these are not "Islamic terrorist," but Holy Warriors, thus it's why he won't put the two words together.

"We are not at war with Islam."

A repeated phrase he uses quite often, which in his eyes are correct. He is not at war with Islam, but Islam is at war with us, which is something he won't add into that phrase. The fact is we ar at war with Islam, whether we wish to believe it or not.

For it to be blasphemy, Obama would have to be Muslim himself.

We're not at war with Islam, and anyone who claims we are has a very simplistic view of world events.
 
For it to be blasphemy, Obama would have to be Muslim himself.

We're not at war with Islam, and anyone who claims we are has a very simplistic view of world events.

To the bolded, lol. Exactly.
 
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