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Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

notquiteright said:
Are you so blinded by CON no sense that you believe someone using a perverted version of a religion to cover little more than a power grab desreves the title a billion peaceful folk use to describe their religious beliefs???

It would be like saying Westboro Baptist represents Christianity.... :doh
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I didn't realize the title for "a billion peaceful folk" was "islamic terrorists". :doh

Tangentially, I love how lefties use the word "folk" now. :lol:
 
Mustachio said:
I'm all for our elected figureheads coming out and saying that what ISIS believes in is a perversion of Islam. The Muslims I know are probably best described as pacifists. They are as pious and nonviolent as any religious-oriented person I've ever known. What many of these terrorist organizations do - and yes, they are Islamic terrorist organizations - is maneuver themselves into positions of power for their own benefit. They want to be the dominant political force in the region. Drawing people in with Islam and claiming that their members are fighting a holy war is what appeals to these very misled and troubled young people who grow up in areas overrun with violence and corruption.

ISIS adheres to a legitimate form of Islam just as the Westboro Baptist Church adheres to a legitimate form of Christianity. Both are cults that use religion to draw people in, the difference is that ISIS uses brutality to set themselves up to be power players on a global scale.

But all that aside, the claim that Obama didn't use the word "Islam" is a lie and illustrates how misled you are on the issue. The far right spin is that Obama is appeasing terrorists, and that's complete garbage.
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If its a lie kindly prove it.
 
Moot said:
The US has Muslim allies in the ME and needs them to fight against ISIS. But you want Obama to alienate over one billion Muslims and start a crusade against Islam because of a few radical jihadi i's running amuck in the desert? Really?



Sending an army to kill a few mice just makes the US look foolish and weak. Been there, done that.
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So you are gonna stick with ISIS being the JV team still, eh?

What is it about the left that invariably causes them to side with evil over good?
 
US Conservative said:
So you are gonna stick with ISIS being the JV team still, eh?

What is it about the left that invariably causes them to side with evil over good?
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The same question can be asked about the right.
 
Moot said:
The same question can be asked about the right.
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What enemy has the right sided with?

When did anyone on the right say "Islam isn't all bad" when American troops are shedding blood.

You are defending the reprehensible merely because it's Obama and that's where you have parked your vote come hell of high water....

I wonder, though, how that post would have read if it were George W. Bush had said after 911....there was the crusades and 'right here in America we had slaves...."

You can't shut up about now!
 
US Conservative said:
So you are gonna stick with ISIS being the JV team still, eh?

What is it about the left that invariably causes them to side with evil over good?
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Your claim that "the left" is somehow siding with ISIS is yet another of your deluge of lies.
 
US Conservative said:
At least the right can call evil what it is. :2wave:
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Yeah, simple "terrorists"

That's all you need. That prick has a gun and is going to kill some infants. The left says wait, let's give them jobs"

The right says take out the baby killer with prejudice!

I say let's bury these ****s before they can get to the children.

We're never gonna do that bombing vacant buildings again and again...
 
US Conservative said:
WASHINGTON — They’re burning and beheading victims in the name of Islam, but President Obama delivered a major speech Wednesday on combating violent extremism — while refusing to use the words “Muslim terrorists.”

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“No religion is responsible for terrorism — people are responsible for violence and terrorism,” Obama told a crowd that included Muslim community leaders at the White House.

Obama refuses to acknowledge
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It just amazes me how Cons continuously get their panties into a bunch about form. I guess when your political platform lacks substance, form is all ya got...
 
Fearandloathing said:
What enemy has the right sided with?

When did anyone on the right say "Islam isn't all bad" when American troops are shedding blood.

You are defending the reprehensible merely because it's Obama and that's where you have parked your vote come hell of high water....

I wonder, though, how that post would have read if it were George W. Bush had said after 911....there was the crusades and 'right here in America we had slaves...."

You can't shut up about now!
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Thatsa alotta fallacies for such a short post.

So, whose side is the right wing on in the ME?
 
ISIS isn't Islamic?
Boko Haram isn't Islamic?
al Shabab isn't Islamic?
al Qaeda isn't Islamic?
Taliban aren't Islamic?
Emulating Mohammed's Cleansing, Converting, and Killing, of the Arabian Peninsula (and beyond by his immediate successor '4 Caliphs'), wasn't Islamic?
Jihad isn't Islamic?

You know ARABs only lived in ARABia, the ARABian Peninsula, at Big Mo's birth and didn't get to be from anywhere else until.. um.. Islamic Invasion.
Natives still paying in Egypt, Sudan, Kurdistan, etc.
re: November 2014

BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
10 December 2014

Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
Jihadist attacks killed more than 5,000 people in just One month, an investigation by the BBC World Service and King's College London has found.
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The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 Jihadist attacks across 14 Countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or 7 Every Hour.
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Many/More People die virtually EVERY single DAY, even in some Single HOURS, than the Total from 30 YEARS of those nasty abortion clinic bombings Moral equivocators like to invoke.


"This has Nothing to do with Islam" is right up there for Lies of the century.
 
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mbig said:
ISIS isn't Islamic?
Boko Haram isn't Islamic?
al Shabab isn't Islamic?
al Qaeda isn't Islamic?
Taliban aren't Islamic?
Emulating Mohammed's Cleansing, Converting, and Killing, of the Arabian Peninsula (and beyond by his immediate successor '4 Caliphs'), wasn't Islamic?
Jihad isn't Islamic?

You know ARABs only lived in ARABia, the ARABian Peninsula, at Big Mo's birth and didn't get to be from anywhere else until.. um.. Islamic Invasion.
Natives still paying in Egypt, Sudan, Kurdistan, etc.
re: November 2014

BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
10 December 2014

Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
Jihadist attacks killed more than 5,000 people in just One month, an investigation by the BBC World Service and King's College London has found.
[.........]
The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 Jihadist attacks across 14 Countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or 7 Every Hour.
[......]​


Many/More People die virtually EVERY single DAY, even in some Single HOURS, than the Total from 30 YEARS of those nasty abortion clinic bombings Moral equivocators like to invoke.


"This has Nothing to do with Islam" is right up there for Lies of the century.
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Mornin Mbig. :2wave: The Maps say it all huh?

30 days 14 countries 664 attacks 5,042 deaths
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Syria and Iraq in detail.

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US Conservative said:
That of course explains the 2014 elections I suppose. :cool:
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... actually it does, it was a election entirely about form. There were no substantive issues discussed in the 2014 election. It was all about the form of Obama and Washington. I do hope you understand that the 2014 election was pretty much stacked in favor of the Cons, just as 2016 is stacked in favor of the Dems and will turn the other way (except for the House, which the Dems have no shot to take back until 2024... just as the Cons have very little shot at the White House before then). If you read between the lines of 2014, you will see the Cons really made NO in roads in blue states, they won only in Red and purple states.

The missing story of the 2014 election - GOPlifer
 
upsideguy said:
... actually it does, it was a election entirely about form. There were no substantive issues discussed in the 2014 election. It was all about the form of Obama and Washington. I do hope you understand that the 2014 election was pretty much stacked in favor of the Cons, just as 2016 is stacked in favor of the Dems and will turn the other way (except for the House, which the Dems have no shot to take back until 2024... just as the Cons have very little shot at the White House before then). If you read between the lines of 2014, you will see the Cons really made NO in roads in blue states, they won only in Red and purple states.

The missing story of the 2014 election - GOPlifer
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This was not routine buddy. Yes, the dems had more seats up for reelection, but there are now more republicans in power in congress and state govts than there have been in recent history.

Sorry, dem policies have demonstrably failed. :2wave:
 
mbig said:
ISIS isn't Islamic?
Boko Haram isn't Islamic?
al Shabab isn't Islamic?
al Qaeda isn't Islamic?
Taliban aren't Islamic?
Emulating Mohammed's Cleansing, Converting, and Killing, of the Arabian Peninsula (and beyond by his immediate successor '4 Caliphs'), wasn't Islamic?
Jihad isn't Islamic?

You know ARABs only lived in ARABia, the ARABian Peninsula, at Big Mo's birth and didn't get to be from anywhere else until.. um.. Islamic Invasion.
Natives still paying in Egypt, Sudan, Kurdistan, etc.
re: November 2014

BBC News - Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
10 December 2014

Jihadism: Tracking a month of deadly attacks
Jihadist attacks killed more than 5,000 people in just One month, an investigation by the BBC World Service and King's College London has found.
[.........]
The data gathered by the BBC found that 5,042 people were killed in 664 Jihadist attacks across 14 Countries - a daily average of 168 deaths, or 7 Every Hour.
[......]​


Many/More People die virtually EVERY single DAY, even in some Single HOURS, than the Total from 30 YEARS of those nasty abortion clinic bombings Moral equivocators like to invoke.


"This has Nothing to do with Islam" is right up there for Lies of the century.
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Why is it so important to you to blame a holy book instead of the individuals who actually carry out atrocities?
 
Deuce said:
Why is it so important to you to blame a holy book instead of the individuals who actually carry out atrocities?
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Because, as I've demonstrated Repeatedly, Extensively, EXHAUSTIVELY, these are Not Mere acts of individuals.

You quoted me, but didn't Coherently respond.
This was Not 'Son of Sam' INDIVIDUAL, this is "Jihadist violence".
People being Slaughtered Hourly, Daily, Monthly, Yearly, Perennially, in the NAME of Islam/THEMATICALLY across 14 Countries. 5000 Dead in Oft Twice that number of countries in a single month.
People being Slaughtered BECAUSE they are non-Muslims or Muslims of a different sect.

Your post, the usual Dissociative Islamo-Apologetics.
 
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Deuce said:
Why is it so important to you to blame a holy book instead of the individuals who actually carry out atrocities?
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When people are poorly educated they will respond in unpredictable ways. And when their instructions are based mostly on the teachings of seventh century lunatic than these unpredictable ways become ever more likely.
 
Deuce said:
Why is it so important to you to blame a holy book instead of the individuals who actually carry out atrocities?
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Because that specific holy book caused those people to perform those specific acts. If not for those beliefs, based on that holy book, those acts could never have been performed as they were. A better question is, why is it so important for you to defend religion from all attacks, even the blatantly valid ones?
 
chad1389 said:
Obama won't call it what it is because that would be blasphemy. In the eyes of Islam, Jihadist (warriors) are holy men. To speak ill of them would be wrong in that religion. To them, these are not "Islamic terrorist," but Holy Warriors, thus it's why he won't put the two words together.

"We are not at war with Islam."

A repeated phrase he uses quite often, which in his eyes are correct. He is not at war with Islam, but Islam is at war with us, which is something he won't add into that phrase. The fact is we ar at war with Islam, whether we wish to believe it or not.
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Ah yes... it's hilarious to see that conservative hacks have run out of material so they are repeating "Obama is a Muslim" attack that they are resurrecting from their 2008 campaign strategy. How'd that work out for you guys back then? :lol:
 
poweRob said:
Ah yes... it's hilarious to see that conservative hacks have run out of material so they are repeating "Obama is a Muslim" attack that they are resurrecting from their 2008 campaign strategy. How'd that work out for you guys back then? :lol:
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The logical and rhetorical pretzels into which some of our esteemed DP members will twist themselves in order to craft this narrative that Obama is soft on terrorism are astounding.
 
US Conservative said:
Im saying we have a leader who wont dare utter the problem. His PC spin prevents this.
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Little quiz for you. I even made it easy by putting the answers in there.


1. “Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for.”
Bush

2. “They’re terrorists. And we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam.”
Obama

3. “Our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil.”
Bush

4. “Our enemy doesn’t follow the great traditions of Islam. They’ve hijacked a great religion.”
Bush

5. “Given the…nature of the enemy — which is not a traditional army — this work takes time, and will require vigilance and resilience.”
Obama

6. “The terrorists do not speak for over a billion Muslims who reject their hateful ideology.”
Obama

7. “The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself.”
Bush

8. “How do we, as people of faith, reconcile these realities — the profound good…the compassion and love that can flow from all of our faiths, operating alongside those who seek to hijack religious for their own murderous ends?”
Obama

9. “There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know — that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion.”
Bush

10. “This great religion in the hands of a few extremists has been distorted to justify violence.”
Obama
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Now back to your regularly scheduled faux outrage.
 
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