Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

Grant · Feb 20, 2015

vesper said:
There have been many decisions out of this White House in regard to foreign affairs that can't help make a person wonder. What is going on now is just unreal.

That's right, though it is still a little uncomfortable to get into this conspiracy thing. I can only watch and wonder as well.

Grant · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
Giuliani just gave a speech where he essentially asked the same. I dont know why he still thinks pissing off his allies and sucking up to our enemies-nobody is buying it. What kind of POTUS is this?

I feel Giuliani feels the same as many people and, though he couched his words and spoke in euphemisms, most everyone understood his meaning.

Rudy Giuliani: President Obama doesn

vesper · Feb 20, 2015

Grant said:
That's right, though it is still a little uncomfortable to get into this conspiracy thing. I can only watch and wonder as well.

It isn't about conspiracy as thinking minds are realizing what is being sold to us isn't adding up.

Grant · Feb 20, 2015

vesper said:
It isn't about conspiracy as thinking minds are realizing what is being sold to us isn't adding up.

I agree, but it would point to a large conspiracy with a great deal of involvement from others, or people more interested in their careers than their country, and that's tough to prove. But we are running out of rational or logical explanations for his bizarre foreign (and domestic) policies to the point where even his most enthusiastic sycophants, like Chris Mathews, are coming to recognize this. Chris Matthews Turns Against Obama In Spectacular Style

vesper · Feb 20, 2015

Grant said:
I agree, but it would point to a large conspiracy with a great deal of involvement from others, or people more interested in their careers than their country, and that's tough to prove. But we are running out of rational or logical explanations for his bizarre foreign (and domestic) policies to the point where even his most enthusiastic sycophants, like Chris Mathews, are coming to recognize this. Chris Matthews Turns Against Obama In Spectacular Style

When you have Chris, thrill up my leg, Matthews doubting his judgment, that should be a red flag for the die hard Obama apologist. That's just it, there are red flags all over the place.

Moot · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
You said this...

At no point did you say "civil" war, but it still was and everyone knew that too-you think they forgot they were fighting each other?

And the north called them rebels because they were.

What was your attempted point? That Lincoln was a weak chump like Obama? Or just an attempt to associate Obama with a potus whos actually was a strong leader?

The North called it a "war of aggression." The South called it a "war of separation". Officially, it was called "The War of the Rebellion" Technically, it wasn't even a civil war at all because the south weren't fighting to take over the country...they were fighting to separate from it.

My point is still the same.....

Moot said:
President Lincoln didn't recognize the Southern rebel uprising as a "war" either. If he had it would have legitimized the Southern seccession. It's the same with Obama refusing to give the jihadists any recognition for their uprising as well. In fact, we shouldn't even be calling them a state.

Lincoln said: “It might seem, at first thought, to be of little difference whether the present movement at the South be called ‘secession’ or ‘rebellion,’” he told Congress in July 1861. “The movers, however, well understand the difference.”

Likewise, it might seem to be of little difference whether jihadists are called Islamic terrorists or just terrorists... but the movers, however, well understand the difference.

Cephus · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
We are in the freaking twilight zone. I will never forget this period.

Not only did we use violence in Libya, we they just walked away and now Libya is 10x worse than it ever was before Obama got involved.

US Conservative · Feb 20, 2015

Moot said:
The North called it a "war of aggression." The South called it a "war of separation". Officially, it was called "The War of the Rebellion" Technically, it wasn't even a civil war at all because the south weren't fighting to take over the country...they were fighting to separate from it.

My point is still the same.....

Lincoln said: “It might seem, at first thought, to be of little difference whether the present movement at the South be called ‘secession’ or ‘rebellion,’” he told Congress in July 1861. “The movers, however, well understand the difference.”

Likewise, it might seem to be of little difference whether jihadists are called Islamic terrorists or just terrorists... but the movers, however, well understand the difference.

There are various types of terrorists, these are islamist terrorists and our weak president can't name them.

Moot · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
There are various types of terrorists, these are islamist terrorists and our weak president can't name them.

Considering the amount of abuse he's getting for not saying it, I'd say he's pretty strong.

US Conservative · Feb 20, 2015

Cephus said:
Not only did we use violence in Libya, we they just walked away and now Libya is 10x worse than it ever was before Obama got involved.

This guy is a stunning hypocrite.

US Conservative · Feb 20, 2015

Moot said:
Considering the amount of abuse he's getting for not saying it, I'd say he's pretty strong.

The abuse is from all sides, and it indicates he's a stubborn and naive fool.

Kobie · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
Kobie, Obama's lucky to have you here to "explain" what Obama really means, isnt he?

It's obvious why Obama (and Bush before him, if you recall) don't specifically designate these terrorists as Muslims, except to the terminally obstinate or the irretrievably stupid.

Kobie · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
Kobie, you seem like a victim. You certainly sound like one.

No, I'd be a "victim" if you had one iota of power over my thoughts or actions. For now, I'll just continue to call you out on your incessant lies.

US Conservative · Feb 20, 2015

Kobie said:
It's obvious why Obama (and Bush before him, if you recall) don't specifically designate these terrorists as Muslims, except to the terminally obstinate or the irretrievably stupid.

Kobie Bush was a leader. Obama just isn't.

US Conservative · Feb 20, 2015

Kobie said:
No, I'd be a "victim" if you had one iota of power over my thoughts or actions. For now, I'll just continue to call you out on your incessant lies.

In this case you are a victim. :2wave:

Kobie · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
Kobie Bush was a leader. Obama just isn't.

Quote me when you have something worthwhile to read.

notquiteright · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
Its not a slur to call a muslim fighting what he believes to be an islamic holy war a muslim terrorist, nor has it been. Are you so blinded by PC dogma that you cant see that?

Are you so blinded by CON no sense that you believe someone using a perverted version of a religion to cover little more than a power grab desreves the title a billion peaceful folk use to describe their religious beliefs???

It would be like saying Westboro Baptist represents Christianity.... :doh

notquiteright · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
The abuse is from all sides, and it indicates he's a stubborn and naive fool.

Sorta like BushII????

MMC · Feb 20, 2015

US Conservative said:
WASHINGTON — They’re burning and beheading victims in the name of Islam, but President Obama delivered a major speech Wednesday on combating violent extremism — while refusing to use the words “Muslim terrorists.”

“No religion is responsible for terrorism — people are responsible for violence and terrorism,” Obama told a crowd that included Muslim community leaders at the White House.

Obama refuses to acknowledge

He just tried to lecture the world.....and now is looking like a major fool. Note how the fool still sticks to the term ISIL. Why everybody else in the World calls them what they are.

Blaming poverty while he points out how Billions in poverty don't ever cross the line into violence.

So basically what we have here.....is BO peep trying to appear like he doing something to combat the problem. While BO Peep talks confusingly to the rest of the world.....and showing the American People he will not be truthful and cannot be trusted.

MMC · Feb 20, 2015

Grant said:
I agree, but it would point to a large conspiracy with a great deal of involvement from others, or people more interested in their careers than their country, and that's tough to prove. But we are running out of rational or logical explanations for his bizarre foreign (and domestic) policies to the point where even his most enthusiastic sycophants, like Chris Mathews, are coming to recognize this. Chris Matthews Turns Against Obama In Spectacular Style

Mornin' Grant. Chris Matthews and now even, the Mister I wear Brown, Ed Schultz is taking BO peep to task over his concepts on ISIS.

How many more on the left have to turn against BO peep and start calling him and his lost sheep.....out? Time to put the Mopes in that real spot light. Including any in the MS media still carrying BO's water.

Montecresto · Feb 20, 2015

Let's continue to ignore the FACT that the Bush administration expunged the language of Islamic extremism, jihad and Muslim Holy War that the right is insisting Obama use. Because it was learned that such usage was counterproductive and had the unintended consequence of legitimising terrorism.

MMC · Feb 20, 2015

Montecresto said:
Let's continue to ignore the FACT that the Bush administration expunged the language of Islamic extremism, jihad and Muslim Holy War that the right is insisting Obama use. Because it was learned that such usage was counterproductive and had the unintended consequence of legitimising terrorism.

So whats your excuse for other countries and what they say about BO peep and what language he will not use. While you look to dump on Bush Jr and those here in the US from the Right.

Whats your excuse for the Press and MS Media.....now Both sides questioning and wondering why not tell the truth.

Got a reason why they are talking about the same thing?

Montecresto · Feb 20, 2015

MMC said:
So whats your excuse for other countries and what they say about BO peep and what language he will not use. While you look to dump on Bush Jr and those here in the US from the Right.

Whats your excuse for the Press and MS Media.....now Both sides questioning and wondering why not tell the truth.

Got a reason why they are talking about the same thing?

What the ****. I'm not jumping or dumping on Jr. I approve of his decision to remove that screwed up language. And wish Obama wouldn't use it as well. I SUPPORT Bush's decision in that matter!!

MMC · Feb 20, 2015

Montecresto said:
What the ****. I'm not jumping or dumping on Jr. I approve of his decision to remove that screwed up language. And wish Obama wouldn't use it as well. I SUPPORT Bush's decision in that matter!!

You stated that the Right insists on BO using such language.....yet, he hasn't.

rcart76 · Feb 20, 2015

Threads like this is proof that the average American IQ is declining. I would bet my house that 90 percent of the anti-Islam crowd has never read or research the Muslim faith.