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Obama refuses to acknowledge ‘Muslim terrorists’ at summit

Mustachio said:
That's not even true, though. Obama said “And we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam." So you're reading tabloid garbage meant to get you all fired up and it's working. With all the legitimate issues to talk about, you're focused on whether or not Obama will say that terrorists are terrorists because their god is different? You want him to say that their religion makes them kill us and we believe in the correct god who is the only god of peace? I don't understand what you want.
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Obama just had a "terrorism summit" where he couldn't say the words islamic terror as if thats not the real problem. If he does not think they are "real muslims" why do are they allowed to observe strict muslim religious rights in jail? Why is their food halal?

You may not like it-but this is just a very literal interpretation of Islam they are adhering to, and its not confined to one locality-its a legitimate-if not extreme sect of Islam, just like fundamentalists or elsewhere.
 
chad1389 said:
For those who have not figured it out, THEY ARE ISLAMS TRUE REPRESENTATIVES. They are doing exactly what the Koran tells them to do in order to usher in the last Imam. Just as the Bible tells Christians to preach in the name of Christ, they are killing in the name of Islam. It's a very simple thing to understand. Those who reject the idea that they are following the Koran are blind and being mislead.
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Thats true-they aren't doing anything Mohammed didn't do-in fact thats the model for how they live. Its horribly straightforward, we are seeing back in time to the 7th century with these freaks.
 
matchlight said:
G--damned disloyal liar of a president is more like it. No surprise to see his fellow America-resenting collectivists rushing to cover his backside.
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Its nothing but the same old story, radical islam throws a gear in the lefts gears.

They dont want to discriminate you see. :lol:
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
oh joy the "Christians did it to" argument.

some christians don't support same sex marriage, none have set gays on fire.

Some christians are pro-abortion, some are pro-life, attacks on abortion clinics are rare.

Oh and the christians are racist one Is not worthy of a retort.


ISIS is 200,000 fighters strong and has untold sympathizers. Are you rEALLY suggesting similiarities?
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Even if they could (and Im not saying they can), their ideology prevents them from admitting that. And to most they ARE the same, in fact they are compelled to say it at every opportunity.
 
Kobie said:
Please. It's not a "victim" thing at all. What else would YOU call someone who does nothing but baselessly smear "the left" 24-7? I thought conservatives actually fought for conservative principles, rather than sitting around whining about liberals.
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Kobie, you seem like a victim. You certainly sound like one.
 
Moot said:
President Lincoln didn't recognize the Southern rebel uprising as a "war" either. If he had it would have legitimized the Southern seccession. It's the same with Obama refusing to give the jihadists any recognition for their uprising as well. In fact, we shouldn't even be calling them a state.
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We are in civil war. In such cases there always is a main question; but in this case that question is a perplexing compound -- Union and Slavery. It thus becomes a question not of two sides merely, but of at least four sides, even among those who are for the Union, saying nothing of those who are against it.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.

It is easy to see that, under the sharp discipline of civil war, the nation is beginning a new life.

War at the best, is terrible, and this war of ours, in its magnitude and in its duration, is one of the most terrible.

Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came .... Fondly do we hope -- fervently do we pray -- that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.

-All quotes by Abraham Lincoln
Quotes by Abraham Lincoln
 
Yesterday it was very apparent to most of us paying attention to this situation that we have an administration in charge of foreign affairs full of fruit loops.
A president that can't even recognize the "root problem" nor bring himself to call it what it is, Islamic terrorism.

But the lunacy isn't just at the White House, it is also loony tunes at the Pentagon.

Pentagon Spokesperson Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby condemned Egypt and AEU airstrikes on ISIS in retaliation to 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians being beheaded and several more kidnapped for future executions by stating

We discourage other nations from taking a part in Libya’s issues through violence. We want the issues solved in Libya to be done peacefully and through good governance and politics and not violence.
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WTF? What's wrong Admiral, you afraid you and the rest of this administration looks like a bunch of eunuchs while UAE, Jordan and Egypt show they have a pair of balls?

And the insanity continued with the bimbo spokesperson for the State Department, Jen Pskai , flakes of all flakes stated...
“Our concern here is about the fragile state of Libya’s political process,” Psaki replied. “We believe there isn’t a military solution. The political process is what the focus needs to be on, and hence the concern that we have.”
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They should have thought of that before they toppled Khadafi. And then she went on to state they have close ties in Libya even though we don't have a damn embassy operating there at this time.

May God help us through the next 18 months.

Pentagon: Egypt, UAE Attacking Islamists in Libya Differs From US Bombing ISIS in Iraq | CNS News
 
vesper said:
Yesterday it was very apparent to most of us paying attention to this situation that we have an administration in charge of foreign affairs full of fruit loops.
A president that can't even recognize the "root problem" nor bring himself to call it what it is, Islamic terrorism.

But the lunacy isn't just at the White House, it is also loony tunes at the Pentagon.

Pentagon Spokesperson Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby condemned Egypt and AEU airstrikes on ISIS in retaliation to 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians being beheaded and several more kidnapped for future executions by stating



WTF? What's wrong Admiral, you afraid you and the rest of this administration looks like a bunch of eunuchs while UAE, Jordan and Egypt show they have a pair of balls?

And the insanity continued with the bimbo spokesperson for the State Department, Jen Pskai , flakes of all flakes stated...


They should have thought of that before they toppled Khadafi. And then she went on to state they have close ties in Libya even though we don't have a damn embassy operating there at this time.

May God help us through the next 18 months.

Pentagon: Egypt, UAE Attacking Islamists in Libya Differs From US Bombing ISIS in Iraq | CNS News
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You have to be ****ing kidding me. They spoke out AGAINST the airstrikes? :doh
Who is really in the white house.
 
US Conservative said:
Obama just had a "terrorism summit" where he couldn't say the words islamic terror as if thats not the real problem. If he does not think they are "real muslims" why do are they allowed to observe strict muslim religious rights in jail? Why is their food halal?

You may not like it-but this is just a very literal interpretation of Islam they are adhering to, and its not confined to one locality-its a legitimate-if not extreme sect of Islam, just like fundamentalists or elsewhere.
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I can't see real leaders, such as FDR or Churchill, refusing to call 'Nazis' Germans. Neither would be concerned about 'legitimizing' Nazis or, in the case of Italy, Fascists. They were called what they are and there was none of this "Not all Germans are Nazis" whine.

It should be evident by now, even without the latest 'selfie' video, that Barrack Obama is a complete buffoon.
 
vesper said:
Yesterday it was very apparent to most of us paying attention to this situation that we have an administration in charge of foreign affairs full of fruit loops.
A president that can't even recognize the "root problem" nor bring himself to call it what it is, Islamic terrorism.

But the lunacy isn't just at the White House, it is also loony tunes at the Pentagon.

Pentagon Spokesperson Navy Rear Adm. John Kirby condemned Egypt and AEU airstrikes on ISIS in retaliation to 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians being beheaded and several more kidnapped for future executions by stating



WTF? What's wrong Admiral, you afraid you and the rest of this administration looks like a bunch of eunuchs while UAE, Jordan and Egypt show they have a pair of balls?

And the insanity continued with the bimbo spokesperson for the State Department, Jen Pskai , flakes of all flakes stated...


They should have thought of that before they toppled Khadafi. And then she went on to state they have close ties in Libya even though we don't have a damn embassy operating there at this time.

May God help us through the next 18 months.

Pentagon: Egypt, UAE Attacking Islamists in Libya Differs From US Bombing ISIS in Iraq | CNS News
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The claim that “We want the issues solved in Libya to be done peacefully and through good governance and politics and not violence” overlooks the fact that Gaddafi was removed by Obama through an act of extreme violence. We seem to have entered another dimension.
 
US Conservative said:
We are in civil war. In such cases there always is a main question; but in this case that question is a perplexing compound -- Union and Slavery. It thus becomes a question not of two sides merely, but of at least four sides, even among those who are for the Union, saying nothing of those who are against it.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation, or any nation so conceived and so dedicated, can long endure.

It is easy to see that, under the sharp discipline of civil war, the nation is beginning a new life.

War at the best, is terrible, and this war of ours, in its magnitude and in its duration, is one of the most terrible.

Both parties deprecated war; but one of them would make war rather than let the nation survive; and the other would accept war rather than let it perish. And the war came .... Fondly do we hope -- fervently do we pray -- that this mighty scourge of war may speedily pass away.

-All quotes by Abraham Lincoln
Quotes by Abraham Lincoln
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"...During the war, Northerners and Southerners sometimes used the uncapitalized phrase “civil war” as a declarative description of the mess in which they found themselves, but Civil War was not yet a proper noun. “Now we are engaged in a great civil war,” President Lincoln famously declared in the Gettysburg Address. Less famously, Lt. James Langhorne of the 4th Virginia Infantry lamented to his mother, “I think our country is doomed to a civil war of years duration.” Throughout the struggle Confederates likewise spoke of the “civil war,” or just “this war.”....

Lincoln understood the importance of semantics. “It might seem, at first thought, to be of little difference whether the present movement at the South be called ‘secession’ or ‘rebellion,’” he told Congress in July 1861. “The movers, however, well understand the difference.” Lincoln thought that secession was an act of rebellion against democratic self-government. .....

Rebellion had profound constitutional implications. Calling secession a rebellion enabled the government to put into motion the constitutional machinery of war to “suppress Insurrections,” according to the Constitution’s Article I, Section 8. Article I, Section 9 allowed the suspension of habeas corpus “in Cases of Rebellion.” .....

Seeing the conflict as a rebellion implied an ambivalent policy toward civilians. If the Union was fighting a rebellion led by a handful of traitors, and not another sovereign nation, then civilians in the rebelling states ought not to be assumed to be enemies, as they must be if they were governed by a sovereign nation with legitimate claim to their allegiance...."

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/the-name-of-war/?_r=0​
 
Grant said:
The claim that “We want the issues solved in Libya to be done peacefully and through good governance and politics and not violence” overlooks the fact that Gaddafi was removed by Obama through an act of extreme violence. We seem to have entered another dimension.
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They created the mess and now won't own up to it. Instead have the audacity to criticize the Egyptians and the UAE for attacking the assholes within Libya that they allowed to take hold. But then again this is the administration that tried to put the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt who have invited them to sit at the table in discussions at the State Department on several occasions. Look Obama chose to lead from behind, and everywhere he has led from behind from Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Syria is a friggin mess.
 
Grant said:
The claim that “We want the issues solved in Libya to be done peacefully and through good governance and politics and not violence” overlooks the fact that Gaddafi was removed by Obama through an act of extreme violence. We seem to have entered another dimension.
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We are in the freaking twilight zone. I will never forget this period.
 
vesper said:
They created the mess and now won't own up to it. Instead have the audacity to criticize the Egyptians and the UAE for attacking the assholes within Libya that they allowed to take hold. But then again this is the administration that tried to put the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt who have invited them to sit at the table in discussions at the State Department on several occasions. Look Obama chose to lead from behind, and everywhere he has led from behind from Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Syria is a friggin mess.
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People are legitimately, though quietly, asking who side this guy is really on. I was never a 'birther' or a supporter of any conspiracy but... his actions over the past few years have been highly unproductive as far as American interests are concerned..

I would still like to know what he was referring to when he sent the message to Putin that he could be more 'flexible' after the last election.
 
Moot said:
"...During the war, Northerners and Southerners sometimes used the uncapitalized phrase “civil war” as a declarative description of the mess in which they found themselves, but Civil War was not yet a proper noun. “Now we are engaged in a great civil war,” President Lincoln famously declared in the Gettysburg Address. Less famously, Lt. James Langhorne of the 4th Virginia Infantry lamented to his mother, “I think our country is doomed to a civil war of years duration.” Throughout the struggle Confederates likewise spoke of the “civil war,” or just “this war.”....

Lincoln understood the importance of semantics. “It might seem, at first thought, to be of little difference whether the present movement at the South be called ‘secession’ or ‘rebellion,’” he told Congress in July 1861. “The movers, however, well understand the difference.” Lincoln thought that secession was an act of rebellion against democratic self-government. .....

Rebellion had profound constitutional implications. Calling secession a rebellion enabled the government to put into motion the constitutional machinery of war to “suppress Insurrections,” according to the Constitution’s Article I, Section 8. Article I, Section 9 allowed the suspension of habeas corpus “in Cases of Rebellion.” .....

Seeing the conflict as a rebellion implied an ambivalent policy toward civilians. If the Union was fighting a rebellion led by a handful of traitors, and not another sovereign nation, then civilians in the rebelling states ought not to be assumed to be enemies, as they must be if they were governed by a sovereign nation with legitimate claim to their allegiance...."

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/08/17/the-name-of-war/?_r=0​
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You said this...
President Lincoln didn't recognize the Southern rebel uprising as a "war" either. If he had it would have legitimized the Southern seccession. It's the same with Obama refusing to give the jihadists any recognition for their uprising as well. In fact, we shouldn't even be calling them a state.
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At no point did you say "civil" war, but it still was and everyone knew that too-you think they forgot they were fighting each other?

And the north called them rebels because they were.

What was your attempted point? That Lincoln was a weak chump like Obama? Or just an attempt to associate Obama with a potus whos actually was a strong leader?
 
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vesper said:
They created the mess and now won't own up to it. Instead have the audacity to criticize the Egyptians and the UAE for attacking the assholes within Libya that they allowed to take hold. But then again this is the administration that tried to put the Muslim Brotherhood in power in Egypt who have invited them to sit at the table in discussions at the State Department on several occasions. Look Obama chose to lead from behind, and everywhere he has led from behind from Egypt, Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Syria is a friggin mess.
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I dont know what this idiot wants. We keep hearing from the left that the arabs need to fight terror and when they do he whines. And all after himself attacking Libya after Hillary lied to get us involved in doing the SAME.

Seriously WTF is he trying to do here? Hes not only not leading, he's now impeding the war on terror.
 
Grant said:
People are legitimately, though quietly, asking who side this guy is really on. I was never a 'birther' or a supporter of any conspiracy but... his actions over the past few years have been highly unproductive as far as American interests are concerned..

I would still like to know what he was referring to when he sent the message to Putin that he could be more 'flexible' after the last election.
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There have been many decisions out of this White House in regard to foreign affairs that can't help make a person wonder. What is going on now is just unreal.
 
Grant said:
People are legitimately, though quietly, asking who side this guy is really on. I was never a 'birther' or a supporter of any conspiracy but... his actions over the past few years have been highly unproductive as far as American interests are concerned..

I would still like to know what he was referring to when he sent the message to Putin that he could be more 'flexible' after the last election.
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Giuliani just gave a speech where he essentially asked the same. I dont know why he still thinks pissing off his allies and sucking up to our enemies-nobody is buying it. What kind of POTUS is this?
 
US Conservative said:
I dont know what this idiot wants. We keep hearing from the left that the arabs need to fight terror and when they do he whines. And all after himself attacking Libya after Hillary lied to get us involved in doing the SAME.

Seriously WTF is he trying to do here? Hes not only not leading, he's now impeding the war on terror.
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Like I just mentioned to Grant...none of it is adding up. We went into Libya using violence to take down Kaddafi and then turn around and rebuke those who responded to ISIS for violence against their own? Jeesh. Like you stated earlier, it is indeed Twilight zone.
 
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