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Ferguson Police Could Face Federal Lawsuit

chad1389

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"The Justice Department is preparing to bring a lawsuit against the Ferguson, Missouri, police department over a pattern of racially discriminatory tactics used by officers, sources tell CNN."

In a town where the population is what, 70% black, of course a series of arrests and the tactics used looks like a "pattern." Sounds like Eric Holder is just upset that evidence against Michael Brown overrides his Liberal views.
 
If they are trying out parachute bullets as has been reported, then I suspect that they themselves acknowledge they have a problem.
 
chad1389 said:
"The Justice Department is preparing to bring a lawsuit against the Ferguson, Missouri, police department over a pattern of racially discriminatory tactics used by officers, sources tell CNN."

In a town where the population is what, 70% black, of course a series of arrests and the tactics used looks like a "pattern." Sounds like Eric Holder is just upset that evidence against Michael Brown overrides his Liberal views.
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I'm a liberal, I dont disagree with the decision not to charge the cop in Ferguson.

Hmm. Make knee-jerk assumptions alot? They dont work all that well here.
 
Lursa said:
I'm a liberal, I dont disagree with the decision not to charge the cop in Ferguson.

Hmm. Make knee-jerk assumptions alot? They dont work all that well here.
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His. His as in his own views. I'm Republican but I don't watch Foxnews.
 
chad1389 said:
"The Justice Department is preparing to bring a lawsuit against the Ferguson, Missouri, police department over a pattern of racially discriminatory tactics used by officers, sources tell CNN."
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What exactly is this "pattern?" Did they describe it?

In a town where the population is what, 70% black, of course a series of arrests and the tactics used looks like a "pattern." Sounds like Eric Holder is just upset that evidence against Michael Brown overrides his Liberal views.
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Fergutroit is exactly what you'd think it is...a township with a substantial ghetto culture. There was zero surprise, here in St Louis, that the riots happened. Nothing was going to stop it. If the cop was found guilty, they'd have still burned their own neighborhood down. If the jury was hung, they'd have still burned their own neighborhood down.

Holder's doing nothing but doing damage control for his party. That's all.
 
chad1389 said:
"The Justice Department is preparing to bring a lawsuit against the Ferguson, Missouri, police department over a pattern of racially discriminatory tactics used by officers, sources tell CNN."

In a town where the population is what, 70% black, of course a series of arrests and the tactics used looks like a "pattern." Sounds like Eric Holder is just upset that evidence against Michael Brown overrides his Liberal views.
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You have no idea what evidence they have or what pattern is observed, but you know they are wrong!
 
Deuce said:
You have no idea what evidence they have or what pattern is observed, but you know they are wrong!
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I know that no jury could find the cop who shot Michael Brown guilty due to lack of evidence. I know that the town of Ferguson is mostly black. I know that there are a lot of pissed off resident of ferguson who feel they did not get justice. I know that Eric Holder is being pressured into doing something because of the overwhelmingly majority of people who feel the same way. These I do know.
 
chad1389 said:
"The Justice Department is preparing to bring a lawsuit against the Ferguson, Missouri, police department over a pattern of racially discriminatory tactics used by officers, sources tell CNN."

In a town where the population is what, 70% black, of course a series of arrests and the tactics used looks like a "pattern." Sounds like Eric Holder is just upset that evidence against Michael Brown overrides his Liberal views.
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Holder still has an obsession with Fergeson? What an asshole.
 
chad1389 said:
I know that no jury could find the cop who shot Michael Brown guilty due to lack of evidence. I know that the town of Ferguson is mostly black. I know that there are a lot of pissed off resident of ferguson who feel they did not get justice. I know that Eric Holder is being pressured into doing something because of the overwhelmingly majority of people who feel the same way. These I do know.
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And I know our justice system actually does have a systemic racial bias, so I will wait and see what evidence exists before judging.
 
Declan said:
If they are trying out parachute bullets as has been reported, then I suspect that they themselves acknowledge they have a problem.
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Trying something out does not indicate any such thing.
 
Excon said:
Trying something out does not indicate any such thing.
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Sure it does. There is no reason to try it if you do not have a problem.
 
Declan said:
Sure it does. There is no reason to try it if you do not have a problem.
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Wrong.
It is not an indication that there is something wrong.
Your claim is absurd.
 
Excon said:
Wrong.
It is not an indication that there is something wrong.
Your claim is absurd.
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Absurdity wins lots of court cases. Wait and see.
 
Declan said:
Absurdity wins lots of court cases. Wait and see.
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:doh D'oh!
Please point out where some of it's Officers checking out knew technology will be included in any brief suggesting that indicates an acknowledgment of a problem?
 
Roadvirus said:
Holder still has an obsession with Fergeson? What an asshole.
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Well, I guess that all comes with how he views his role in his present position, as an 'Activist Attorney General'.

Deuce said:
And I know our justice system actually does have a systemic racial bias, so I will wait and see what evidence exists before judging.
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I'd have to disagree. The only systemic racial bias is the one where minorities, particularly African-Americans, commit the most crime per their population segment, and are most often caught at it.

  • Blacks commit many violent crimes
  • The media invariably sugarcoat black behavior.
  • Everything I say to blacks must be at about the third-grade level. If I slip and use adult language, they get angry because they think I am flaunting my superiority.
  • Public defender is a part of the system against which they are waging war. They often explode with anger at me and are quick to blame me for anything that goes wrong in their case.
  • Many black are unable to discuss the evidence against them rationally because they cannot view things from the perspective of others. They do not understand the pain they are inflicting on others.
  • What too many blacks say about the suffering of others: “What do I care? She ain’t me. She ain’t kin. Don’t even know her.”
  • A complete lack of empathy and are unable to conceal a morality based on the satisfaction of immediate, base needs.
  • No fathers
  • No mothers
  • Many are raised by grandmothers after the state removes the children from an incompetent teenaged mother.
  • These men live in a culture with no expectations, no demands, and no shame.
  • recidivism. Black men are arrested and convicted over and over. It is typical for a black man to have five felony convictions before the age of 30. This kind of record is rare among whites and Hispanics, and probably even rarer among Asians.
  • That blacks are different by almost any measure to all other people. They cannot reason as well. They cannot communicate as well. They cannot control their impulses as well. They are a threat to all who cross their paths, black and non-black alike.
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Confessions of a Public Defender | American Renaissance
Confessions of a Public Defender
Michael Smith, American Renaissance, May 9, 2014

Now I agree that there's something drastically wrong and socially maladaptive in the black communities and lac families, how or why else would the above be the result?
 
eohrnberger said:
Well, I guess that all comes with how he views his role in his present position, as an 'Activist Attorney General'.



I'd have to disagree. The only systemic racial bias is the one where minorities, particularly African-Americans, commit the most crime per their population segment, and are most often caught at it.

Confessions of a Public Defender | American Renaissance
Confessions of a Public Defender
Michael Smith, American Renaissance, May 9, 2014

Now I agree that there's something drastically wrong and socially maladaptive in the black communities and lac families, how or why else would the above be the result?
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Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

What does Holder expect to accomplish, other than keeping Ferguson in the news? Can he overturn a Grand Jury decision that took months to decide? You can be certain that every "t" was crossed, and every "I" was dotted in this particular case, for obvious reasons. So he disagrees with the verdict - one side in every legal case loses every day, so that's nothing new. Why is he taking this one personally?
 
polgara said:
Greetings, Erik. :2wave:

What does Holder expect to accomplish, other than keeping Ferguson in the news? Can he overturn a Grand Jury decision that took months to decide? You can be certain that every "t" was crossed, and every "I" was dotted in this particular case, for obvious reasons. So he disagrees with the verdict - one side in every legal case loses every day, so that's nothing new. Why is he taking this one personally?
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Greeting Polgara! :2wave:

There was federal oversight of the Detroit police force for years as well, recently lifted, if I recall, and the it cost the police force a pile of money that may very well have been better spent on training, equipment, patrol cars, whatever, rather than paying for the federal oversight. Seems all so counter productive. All I can think is that Holder is thinking a similar 'punishment' for Ferguson, regardless of the GJ decision.
 
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Excon said:
:doh D'oh!
Please point out where some of it's Officers checking out knew technology will be included in any brief suggesting that indicates an acknowledgment of a problem?
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Wait and see.
 
Excon said:
There is no waiting required. It was an absurd claim.
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Absurd is your idea that I should be able to point you to a brief yet to be written in a case yet to be filed.
 
Declan said:
Absurd is your idea that I should be able to point you to a brief yet to be written in a case yet to be filed.
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:doh

That is the only way you could prove what you absurdly asserted.
 
Excon said:
:doh

That is the only way you could prove what you absurdly asserted.
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The only absurd thing I asserted was
If they are trying out parachute bullets as has been reported, then I suspect that they themselves acknowledge they have a problem.
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Declan said:
The only absurd thing I asserted was
If they are trying out parachute bullets as has been reported, then I suspect that they themselves acknowledge they have a problem.
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That is what I said.
Good to see you acknowledge your assertion was absurd. :thumbs:
 
Here's the link to the article

Justice Dept. could sue Ferguson for racial discrimination - CNN.com
The Justice Department is expected to announce it won't charge Wilson for the shooting, but it's also expected to outline findings that allege a pattern of discriminatory tactics used by the Ferguson police.

If they don't agree to review and revise those tactics, sources say, the Justice Department would sue to force changes in the department.

Asked to comment, Ferguson police Chief Thomas Jackson told CNN's Sara Sidner, "I have received nothing new.

"Everything they suggested in the past has been reasonable and we have tried to comply."
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Appears Ferguson police dept. has tried their best to make adjustments.
 
eohrnberger said:
Greeting Polgara! :2wave:

There was federal oversight of the Detroit police force for years as well, recently lifted, if I recall, and the it cost the police force a pile of money that may very well have been better spent on training, equipment, patrol cars, whatever, rather than paying for the federal oversight. Seems all so counter productive. All I can think is that Holder is thinking a similar 'punishment' for Ferguson, regardless of the GJ decision.
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Ferguson acted in an appropriate manner, according to the GJ, so why should they have to pay anything? If Holder wants to "punish" them, if that is indeed his goal, then the money should have to come out of his budget! Most of the people of Ferguson are not wealthy, so why should they have the burden of paying for one man's vendetta against perceived injustice? Talk about cutting off a nose to spite a face - hurting people you claim to want to help! :thumbdown:
 
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