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ISIS reportedly burns 45 people alive

TheDemSocialist said:
We once played into exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted in response to 9/11. We should not give ISIS what they want here. We need to learn that we cannot be the policemen of the world, and brutal and evil attacks groups enact does not deserve some sort of response from us all the time.
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what ISIS really wants is to unleash the military might of the US so they can all die and have their organization destroyed.... so, instead, we should let them operate with impunity, most of the time... eventually , they will get bored and stop their wide scale mass murders.
 
Montecresto said:
Oh, correcting you was intended to straighten out the misconception that this originated with Obama. The Bush administration expunged all references to Islamic extremism and jihad, but the yellow back patrons are programmed to only find fault with democrats. Really useless and unproductive.
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I said nothing of it originating with Obama... I just alluded to his recent campaign of political correctness.


that said...got a source?
 
I watched The Factor today and O'Reilly the opening propaganda comedy was called Holy War. :) It seemed like something from a dystopian movie or something. Most westerners are not christian even if they 'self identify' as that. You Americans sound like lunatics with this holy war nonsense. It will backfire on america all this holy war propaganda. Places like Australia New Zealand and most of Europe are not as stupid as American society is. This holy war stuff is ridiculous and makes america look like clowns. Imagine a rational European seeing O'Reillys Holy War propaganda bit. You people are utterly ridiculous. Multiculturalism has worked in places like Europe and Australia. There is strength in diversity and American holy war propaganda is ridiculous and makes America look like a lunatic nation not a leader.

What will ISIS do next? I predict that ISIS will need to do a lot more than burn 50 Iraqis to get the worlds attention.

Didn't they already kill babies early on? And crucifixion? They seem to be going backwards. I do not think the world is very shocked by ISIS. Al Queda knocked down the twin towers also. So IS is really not particularly shocking is what it seems. The global community are unmoved. Where is this great global coalition that America claimed it would lead? It does not exist. If the world can't get behind US on this then what does that say about US leadership? Nothing good.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
We once played into exactly what Osama Bin Laden wanted in response to 9/11. We should not give ISIS what they want here. We need to learn that we cannot be the policemen of the world, and brutal and evil attacks groups enact does not deserve some sort of response from us all the time.
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So beheading all these people, burning them alive and raping and murdering children, is just a cunning plan to get the western democracies involved? What an evil guy that Osama was!

But we're going to have the last laugh. We'll just let keep murdering people and then watch in on the internet.
 
Awesome! said:
Its time we embraced a foreign policy of love. Lets stop shaming these juvenile criminals and show them we care. Lets give them the emotional support they need, a hand up in life if you will. Love can do great things...
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I heard a Harvard graduate say (and they are REAAALLLY smart and working in the White House) that all these terrorists people need is a job and then some other Harvard nice man said opening up a car wash in Iraq because was a good idea because its so dusty and all there and all their tanks and everything will need a good wash after a day in the desert. Gollllly, these Harvard people is real smart.
 
spangledbanner said:
I watched The Factor today and O'Reilly the opening propaganda comedy was called Holy War. :) It seemed like something from a dystopian movie or something. Most westerners are not christian even if they 'self identify' as that. You Americans sound like lunatics with this holy war nonsense. It will backfire on america all this holy war propaganda. Places like Australia New Zealand and most of Europe are not as stupid as American society is. This holy war stuff is ridiculous and makes america look like clowns. Imagine a rational European seeing O'Reillys Holy War propaganda bit. You people are utterly ridiculous. Multiculturalism has worked in places like Europe and Australia. There is strength in diversity and American holy war propaganda is ridiculous and makes America look like a lunatic nation not a leader.

What will ISIS do next? I predict that ISIS will need to do a lot more than burn 50 Iraqis to get the worlds attention.

Didn't they already kill babies early on? And crucifixion? They seem to be going backwards. I do not think the world is very shocked by ISIS. Al Queda knocked down the twin towers also. So IS is really not particularly shocking is what it seems. The global community are unmoved. Where is this great global coalition that America claimed it would lead? It does not exist. If the world can't get behind US on this then what does that say about US leadership? Nothing good.
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Gollyyyyyyy! I bet you went waaaaaaay behind ninth grade too! I heard those Europeans was real smart and if i ever go i'll take some nylons and chewing gum with me because I heard them ladies really like that, if you know what I mean! .
 
Jack Fabulous said:
ISIS militants reportedly burn to death 45 people in western Iraqi town | Fox News


These people seem to be daring us, BEGGING us to send in ground forces. Acts this brazen undoubtedly are meant to elicit a response...
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ISIS isnt daring the US or any other nation. Their purpose is simply to scare Iraqi's, encouraging them not to fight. They are just that short sighted. They probably dont even realize what they are provoking out of the rest of the world. Sooner or later these tactics will cease to work since the potentially new jihadists wont be showing up and joining the fight. But ISIS is too primitive to see the writing on the wall. Thats because they truly are barbarians.
 
Roadvirus said:
They can use the "Crusade card" all they want. The world has seen more then enough examples of their brutality to shrug off that "Crusade" crap and cheer us on.
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LOL channelling Rumsfeldt there I see.. you do realize that it is not the world that you have to win over by going into Syria/Iraq right? It is the locals... something that the US has consistently failed to do in every major war it has fought the last 50 years. You cant fight ISIS if the local population turns on you..... look at Iraq and the US failed occupation there.
 
imagep said:
I don't think that ISIS sees a difference between Christians and non-Sunni Muslims.
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Of course they dont.. hell for ISIS it aint religious at all.. it is about power and dominating people. They slaughter more Muslims, both Shia and Sunni than any number of Christians. The point of the slaughter is to provoke and get western troops into action so the fight can be switched to fighting the crusaders and not fellow Muslims.
 
apdst said:
The crusade card only works for the hijackers of Islam. Who cares if they are all killed off? ISIS soldiers aren't real Muslims, anyway, right?
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The crusade card works very well in a poor uneducated and highly impressionable population like that of the Middle East. Right now it is Muslim on Muslim action but being able to switch it to a Christian vs Muslim battle is the classic.. the enemy of my enemy is my friend scenario. It is exactly what ISIS wants to do....the crusades is a very powerful narrative in the region but of course American Christian Conservatives would ignore such a thing.. they want war just like ISIS wants.
 
Fenton said:
Its just unbelievable.

Obama's incompetence or his indifference on full display as his Foreign Policy or lack there of makes for a ever increasing dangerous world.

And the Coptic Christians beheaded over the weekend were ofcourse NOT Muslim.

All a dangerous enemy needs to grow in power is indifference to its threat. ISIS is getting that from the very administration that gave it the freedome to fan out of Syria unchallenged
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Do you really think that the beheadings were unique? ISIS has been doing that to their captives and others for many many months.. it is nothing new. But they are using non-Muslims in a PR campaign to provoke the west in doing something stupid like sending in troops. They want a religious war between Christians and Muslims, and nothing helps that along as Christian soldiers on the ground fighting so called Muslims.
 
PeteEU said:
Do you really think that the beheadings were unique? ISIS has been doing that to their captives and others for many many months.. it is nothing new. But they are using non-Muslims in a PR campaign to provoke the west in doing something stupid like sending in troops. They want a religious war between Christians and Muslims, and nothing helps that along as Christian soldiers on the ground fighting so called Muslims.
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I don't see how anyone objectively observing the ISIS situation can't understand this. They are clearly going after targets that will tug at American and European heartstrings. They desperately want a war with the West.

Of course, all the hacks can see is "DURRR OBAMA WEAK" for not turning the entire ME into a crater, but whatever. They should (and thankfully are) being ignored.
 
Thrilla said:
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what ISIS really wants is to unleash the military might of the US so they can all die and have their organization destroyed.... so, instead, we should let them operate with impunity, most of the time... eventually , they will get bored and stop their wide scale mass murders.
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You are not this stupid.

What ISIS wants is for the US to unleash its military might, which (in their minds) will inflame the rest of the Muslim world into revolt and, in their moronic ideas, the ushering in of the next caliphate. They're nuts.

They don't care about dying; they don't care about their organization.
 
Grant said:
So beheading all these people, burning them alive and raping and murdering children, is just a cunning plan to get the western democracies involved? What an evil guy that Osama was!

But we're going to have the last laugh. We'll just let keep murdering people and then watch in on the internet.
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That's precisely what it is.

Congrats, Grant. You're actually right for once.
 
Reading this thread is just a stark reminder about how utterly stupid a lot of our conservatives are regarding the realities of how the Middle East works or how terrorism works. I'd link the posts, but I'd get gigged for doing it. I might anyway.
 
PeteEU said:
Do you really think that the beheadings were unique? ISIS has been doing that to their captives and others for many many months.. it is nothing new. But they are using non-Muslims in a PR campaign to provoke the west in doing something stupid like sending in troops. They want a religious war between Christians and Muslims, and nothing helps that along as Christian soldiers on the ground fighting so called Muslims.
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So now we're all Christians? I thought we weren't a Christian nation.
 
American said:
So now we're all Christians? I thought we weren't a Christian nation.
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Gnnnh.

We're viewed as a Christian nation by the almost exclusively Muslim populations of the ME.
 
Kobie said:
Gnnnh.

We're viewed as a Christian nation by the almost exclusively Muslim populations of the ME.
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I certainly don't understand why they think that. We didn't even exist during the Crusades.
 
American said:
I certainly don't understand why they think that. We didn't even exist during the Crusades.
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Well, our politicians basically fall over each other to invoke the name of the Christian God for everything we do, and their asshole leaders who have a vested interest in keeping people mad constantly tell them that. So no, I don't get it either. :roll:
 
Kobie said:
Well, our politicians basically fall over each other to invoke the name of the Christian God for everything we do, and their asshole leaders who have a vested interest in keeping people mad constantly tell them that. So no, I don't get it either. :roll:
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You mean they didn't read it somewhere, it's due to our politicians?
 
American said:
You mean they didn't read it somewhere, it's due to our politicians?
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What? That's seriously what you got from my comment? Most of the people who get involved with ISIS can barely read in the first place.

OK, I'll ask these two questions:

1. Do pretty much all of our politicians invoke the name of God in anything they do? This is a yes or no question.

2. Do the people who run ISIS have TV, and can they show this to their people to try to prove that this is a religious war, even through selective editing and misleading video? And do they have a vested interest in doing so? Again, yes or no questions. Try not to hurt yourself.
 
Kobie said:
What? That's seriously what you got from my comment? Most of the people who get involved with ISIS can barely read in the first place.

OK, I'll ask these two questions:

1. Do pretty much all of our politicians invoke the name of God in anything they do? This is a yes or no question.

2. Do the people who run ISIS have TV, and can they show this to their people to try to prove that this is a religious war, even through selective editing and misleading video? And do they have a vested interest in doing so? Again, yes or no questions. Try not to hurt yourself.
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Actually God is not the name of God.
 
Kobie said:
What the **** does that even mean?
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American is referring to Abrahamic God's name being Yahweh me thinks, although I could be totally wrong seeing as American likes playing semantics more than he does discussing actual topics.
 
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