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NYPD Cop Indicted in Fatal Shooting

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A rookie cop who shot and killed an unarmed Brooklyn man in an unlit housing project staircase was indicted for manslaughter Tuesday.

In a blockbuster grand jury decision, Peter Liang will face criminal charges that can send him to prison for up to 15 years for the death of Akai Gurley on Nov. 20, a source said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ooting-akai-gurley-indicted-article-1.2109892
Source: NYPD officer indicted in stairwell death of unarmed man - CNN.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/12/nyregion/akai-gurley-shooting-death-arraignment.html

Perhaps the public outcry over the killings of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have resulted in a change in policy. Perhaps now cops who kill innocent people will start to face the consequences for their actions and at least be charged and tried in court, where their guilt or innocence can actually be determined, instead of summarily never even charging them and almost never indicting them.

Gurley did nothing more than walk into the stairwell of the building where he lived, and a man with a gun murdered him. Anyone who can't handle that and reacts with lethal force to the mere presence of another person has no place being tasked with protecting peace anywhere in this country and has no place at all being trusted with lethal force. Cops like this need to be pruned from the profession and it needs to be taught how to operate like adults, rather than this "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality that has resulted in so many deaths.
 
It is pretty shocking that this person was indicted but the "chokehold against company policy" guy who killed Garner wasn't. It's still not going to lead to a conviction though.


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http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ooting-akai-gurley-indicted-article-1.2109892
Source: NYPD officer indicted in stairwell death of unarmed man - CNN.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/12/nyregion/akai-gurley-shooting-death-arraignment.html

Perhaps the public outcry over the killings of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have resulted in a change in policy. Perhaps now cops who kill innocent people will start to face the consequences for their actions and at least be charged and tried in court, where their guilt or innocence can actually be determined, instead of summarily never even charging them and almost never indicting them.

Gurley did nothing more than walk into the stairwell of the building where he lived, and a man with a gun murdered him. Anyone who can't handle that and reacts with lethal force to the mere presence of another person has no place being tasked with protecting peace anywhere in this country and has no place at all being trusted with lethal force. Cops like this need to be pruned from the profession and it needs to be taught how to operate like adults, rather than this "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality that has resulted in so many deaths.

This was very obviously manslaughter. Knew this was coming, and said so right after it occurred. It has nothing to do with The Brown or Garner cases.. and those will continue to not have charges brought against them. They didn't break the law. The charges in this case also have nothing to do with the public outcry for the others. Charges are not brought due to "public outcry". They should only be brought due to the breaking of law, which is not present in the other two cases you cited.
 
It is pretty shocking that this person was indicted but the "chokehold against company policy" guy who killed Garner wasn't. It's still not going to lead to a conviction though.

Liang will (correctly) be found guilty of manslaughter. Shooting and killing someone by accident.. is manslaughter. This ones a pretty easy case.
 
It is pretty shocking that this person was indicted but the "chokehold against company policy" guy who killed Garner wasn't.
Garner ~ It wasn't a choke hold, and it didn't kill the guy.
 
Garner ~ It wasn't a choke hold, and it didn't kill the guy.

Yes it did, nor was the that only appropriate criminal charge.
 
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...ooting-akai-gurley-indicted-article-1.2109892
Source: NYPD officer indicted in stairwell death of unarmed man - CNN.com
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/12/nyregion/akai-gurley-shooting-death-arraignment.html

Perhaps the public outcry over the killings of Eric Garner and Michael Brown have resulted in a change in policy. Perhaps now cops who kill innocent people will start to face the consequences for their actions and at least be charged and tried in court, where their guilt or innocence can actually be determined, instead of summarily never even charging them and almost never indicting them.

Gurley did nothing more than walk into the stairwell of the building where he lived, and a man with a gun murdered him. Anyone who can't handle that and reacts with lethal force to the mere presence of another person has no place being tasked with protecting peace anywhere in this country and has no place at all being trusted with lethal force. Cops like this need to be pruned from the profession and it needs to be taught how to operate like adults, rather than this "shoot first, ask questions later" mentality that has resulted in so many deaths.

When you were a cop, you would have handled it differently? Wait, were you ever a cop?
 
When you were a cop, you would have handled it differently? Wait, were you ever a cop?

Were you? :) Wait... how many arguments do you think you can no longer take part in if we discount the things you aren't? ;)
 
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Were you? :)

I'm not one of the folks armchair quarterbacking the incident, passing judgement on the cop from the comfort of their recliner, safe in the knowledge that they'll never have to make that call.
 
I'm not one of the folks armchair quarterbacking the incident, passing judgement on the cop from the comfort of their recliner, safe in the knowledge that they'll never have to make that call.

So you weren't a cop, but you can discuss whether actions taken by cops are adequate or not? :) Yes or no answer.
 
So you weren't a cop, but you can discuss whether actions taken by cops are adequate or not? :) Yes or no answer.

I never judged any of the cops, as you people have been doing. It's easy to call them murderers, when you've never been and never will be in the same situation. Ain't armchair quarterbacking fun?
 
I never judged any of the cops

No one claimed you did. What was asked is this: So you weren't a cop, but you can discuss whether actions taken by cops are adequate or not?

Would you say you've never discussed the actions of a cop before the verdict is given? :)
 
No one claimed you did. What was asked is this: So you weren't a cop, but you can discuss whether actions taken by cops are adequate or not?

Would you say you've never defended the actions of a cop before the verdict is given?

How many shootouts have you been in? How many times have you placed your life on the line in the interest of public safety?
 
How many shootouts have you been in? How many times have you placed your life on the line in the interest of public safety?

I asked you whether you've defended/discussed the actions of a cop before any verdict is in. Tell us how many years you've served as a cop and why your opinion on the many cases you've discussed should be taken into consideration but those of other non-cops shouldn't. Thanks :)
 
I asked you whether you've defended/discussed the actions of a cop before any verdict is in. Tell us how many years you've served as a cop and why your opinion on the many cases you've discussed should be taken into consideration but those of other non-cops shouldn't. Thanks :)

You've never served neither your country, nor your community, in anyway, certainly not in anyway that may require you to place your life in danger, but you feel justified in crusifying every cop that makes the news before the verdict and even after a ruling of innocence is handed down.
 
You've never served neither your country, nor your community, in anyway, certainly not in anyway that may require you to place your life in danger, but you feel justified in crusifying every cop that makes the news before the verdict and even after a ruling of innocence is handed down.

So apdst, you weren't a cop. Is that right?

I'm waiting for you to simply say why your opinion as non-cop gets more credence than those of other non-cops.

PS: Remember apdst, being in the military, doesn't mean you put your life in danger. :)
 
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I never judged any of the cops, as you people have been doing. It's easy to call them murderers, when you've never been and never will be in the same situation. Ain't armchair quarterbacking fun?

Have you ever been president, a member of Congress or a judge? If not, then we can be expecting you to never post on any politician or judge again since, in your opinion, you are totally unqualified to have any knowledgeable opinion.
 
So apdst, you weren't a cop. Is that right? :)

I say that if you're going to brand cops murderers and racists, that you step into their shoes and show them how its done.

But, we all know that will never happen, because its much more fun--and safer...LOL--to pound away on your 'puter and bitch about how they do their job.
 
Have you ever been president, a member of Congress or a judge? If not, then we can be expecting you to never post on any politician or judge again since, in your opinion, you are totally unqualified to have any knowledgeable opinion.

It's a weak argument, isn't it? I mean, apdst has an opinion on net neutrality. Yet, he clearly doesn't work with the internet. He has an opinion on Nelson Mandela. Yet, he is not South African. He has an opinion on constitutional matters. Yet, he is hardly a constitutional scholar. I wonder how many discussions apdst could be removed from based on all of the things he isn't.
 
Have you ever been president, a member of Congress or a judge? If not, then we can be expecting you to never post on any politician or judge again since, in your opinion, you are totally unqualified to have any knowledgeable opinion.

Those are elected officials and certainly don't lay their lives on the line to protect our communities.
 
You've never served neither your country, nor your community, in anyway, certainly not in anyway that may require you to place your life in danger, but you feel justified in crusifying every cop that makes the news before the verdict and even after a ruling of innocence is handed down.

It gets tiresome reading someone claiming they used to be someone. What do you do now that makes any difference to anyone?

Everyone has experience at being a civilian, therefore everyone has knowledge to comment on police interactions with civilians. Have you ever been beaten by a police officer? If not, then you have no knowledge whatsoever of the topic and therefore no basis to comment.
 
I say that if you're going to brand cops murderers and racists, that you step into their shoes and show them how its done.

No one has branded anyone anything. What has been asked is whether you are or have been a police officer. This is now the 3rd post on the matter. You could save yourself the shuffling by simply saying: "No, I have never been a police officer". Or "Yes, I am/have been a police officer".
 
No one has branded anyone anything. What has been asked is whether you are or have been a police officer. This is now the 3rd post on the matter. You could save yourself the shuffling by simply saying: "No, I have never been a police officer". Or "Yes, I am/have been a police officer".

No one? You sure?

Gurley did nothing more than walk into the stairwell of the building where he lived, and a man with a gun murdered him.

You liked that post, too.
 
Those are elected officials and certainly don't lay their lives on the line to protect our communities.

Yes, they do. Elected officials being assassinated is not all that rare.

Of course, you are arguing that police should never put themselves in a position to lay their lives on the line to protect anyone. Rather, they should summarily eliminate anyone who may possibly poise danger. Police exist to serve the people, not the other way around.

To make it clear in response to your comments, you're having been a low level grunt in the military has NO relevancy to being a police officer. It is insulting to all police and a lie for you to assert your CLAIMED military ancient past history has ANY relevancy to being a police officer.
 
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