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Exclusive: Secret tapes undermine Hillary Clinton on Libyan war[W:292]

NIMBY said:
Seems you GOP/FOXbots are al about body counts--a term you first introduced in this thread.
In your world, 4 dead in Ben--gha--zi is far greater than 4,500 dead in Iraq or 22 more dead every day from suicides from that war .
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You have still failed to answer a simple question. Yet again, how many US soldiers died in VN under the Eisenhower policy?
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064290666 said:
Republicans liberate nations from oppressive regimes and they are evil. Democrats do it and they are Hillary. Enough said...
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:lamo
This is almost pathetic now. Your hatred for someone and their policies is blinding you from basic facts, and has lead you to use fringe sources to back up your false accusations.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
:lamo
This is almost pathetic now. Your hatred for someone and their policies is blinding you from basic facts, and has lead you to use fringe sources to back up your false accusations.
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Hate? Why not throw in racism too? Get all the liberal buzz words in to solicit emotion from fellow liberals.

So Hillary had nothing to do with reducing security in Benghazi, and as a result Americans died?

Hillary wasn't the warmonger in Libya? She didn't call for Qaddafi's demise? She didn't celebrate his gruesome death?

But I'm the hater, got it.

Feel better now?
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064290878 said:
Hate? Why not throw in racism too? Get all the liberal buzz words in to solicit emotion from fellow liberals.

So Hillary had nothing to do with reducing security in Benghazi, and as a result Americans died?

Hillary wasn't the warmonger in Libya? She didn't call for Qaddafi's demise? She didn't celebrate his gruesome death?

But I'm the hater, got it.

Feel better now?
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Its called the dance of the liberal. :lol:
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064290878 said:
Hate? Why not throw in racism too? Get all the liberal buzz words in to solicit emotion from fellow liberals.

So Hillary had nothing to do with reducing security in Benghazi, and as a result Americans died?

Hillary wasn't the warmonger in Libya? She didn't call for Qaddafi's demise? She didn't celebrate his gruesome death?

But I'm the hater, got it.

Feel better now?
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C'mon now. Dont move goalposts. Where did I state that Hilary Clinton wasnt a war monger? Where did I state that she didnt have anything to do with those accusations? The accusation at hand is "was Libya destabilized before the US decided to start bombing"? That answer is yes. Libya was already destabilized. Dont move the goal posts...
 
ObamacareFail said:
I heard the lack of sleep response as well. I don't think it's going to help her during the 2016 campaign.
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I agree. It might not help her, either, to show members of the families of the men murdered in Benghazi talking about how she lied through her teeth to them, even as she stood near their flag-draped coffins with just the right grim facial expression, shedding the requisite few crocodile tears.
 
No Obama was responsible for that and I seen the look she gave him the day it happened and she looked like she could have got up and kill him herself. She warned him what was going to happen and it did. You will find out when her book comes out 2025.
 
lesson said:
No Obama was responsible for that and I seen the look she gave him the day it happened and she looked like she could have got up and kill him herself. She warned him what was going to happen and it did. You will find out when her book comes out 2025.
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They are both responsible. Obama and Hillary lied, Americans died.
 
US Conservative said:
They are both responsible. Obama and Hillary lied, Americans died.
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Whats most sickening is when they flew the bodies home Hillary was at the airport along with the grieving families of the murdered Americans. She lied right to there faces telling them that they would punish the filmaker for this all the while knowing the film had nothing to do with it and it was a Terrorist plot. How Pathetic, is this who you want for your next president?
 
US Conservative said:
They are both responsible. Obama and Hillary lied, Americans died.
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True enough, and not to minimise things, when Bush lied, 1,000 times that many died, and those were just the Americans. Stopping swallowing camels and chocking on gnats.
 
Iron Yank said:
Whats most sickening is when they flew the bodies home Hillary was at the airport along with the grieving families of the murdered Americans. She lied right to there faces telling them that they would punish the filmaker for this all the while knowing the film had nothing to do with it and it was a Terrorist plot. How Pathetic, is this who you want for your next president?
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People dont forget. This will complicate things for her during the next election. Of course, what she did, and the later lies are unforgivable. Lefties will demonstrate their character by saying it does not matter.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
C'mon now. Dont move goalposts. Where did I state that Hilary Clinton wasnt a war monger? Where did I state that she didnt have anything to do with those accusations? The accusation at hand is "was Libya destabilized before the US decided to start bombing"? That answer is yes. Libya was already destabilized. Dont move the goal posts...
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My statements about Hillary are accurate. She and Obama ensured Gadaffi would end his rule of Libya.

Then she became giddy over their role in his death, in an interview with NBC, I think it was. Imagine Bush doing that after the downfall of Sadam Heussein. The liberal press would have demanded his scalp.

But for Hillary, crickets.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064303201 said:
My statements about Hillary are accurate. She and Obama ensured Gadaffi would end his rule of Libya.

Then she became giddy over their role in his death, in an interview with NBC, I think it was. Imagine Bush doing that after the downfall of Sadam Heussein. The liberal press would have demanded his scalp.

But for Hillary, crickets.
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Last time I checked Hillary Clinton didnt land a jet on an aircraft carrier with a "Mission Accomplished Banner" in the background... But then again you didnt answer any of my questions.
 
US Conservative said:
People dont forget. This will complicate things for her during the next election. Of course, what she did, and the later lies are unforgivable. Lefties will demonstrate their character by saying it does not matter.
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It most certainly does matter, and she's no more qualified for the presidency tomorrow, than Bush was yesterday, but you underestimate the determination of the partisan.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Last time I checked Hillary Clinton didnt land a jet on an aircraft carrier with a "Mission Accomplished Banner" in the background... But then again you didnt answer any of my questions.
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Last I checked the left was bending itself in knots about "lies" and war. Are you suggesting its just the degree you have a problem with?
 
Montecresto said:
It most certainly does matter, and she's no more qualified for the presidency tomorrow, than Bush was yesterday, but you underestimate the determination of the partisan.
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I dont, its just fascinating seeing the left try and take the moral high ground and then turn around and sit quietly by.
 
US Conservative said:
Last I checked the left was bending itself in knots about "lies" and war. Are you suggesting its just the degree you have a problem with?
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Have you read any of my posts? I have answered this question about 5 times now.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Last time I checked Hillary Clinton didnt land a jet on an aircraft carrier with a "Mission Accomplished Banner" in the background... But then again you didnt answer any of my questions.
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Not far off though. She did land her jet in tripoli and quip, we came, we saw, he died, with all the pride and arrogance that George Bush ever displayed.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Last time I checked Hillary Clinton didnt land a jet on an aircraft carrier with a "Mission Accomplished Banner" in the background... But then again you didnt answer any of my questions.
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Last I heard from Obama, ISIS is a JV team and Al Qaeda is "on the run."

I also heard from Hillary that she dodge sniper fire in Bosnia and that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Both are false.

Last I saw you denied Obama's role in Arab Spring. Your question about Libya being under attack isn't relevant because without Hillary, the overthrow of the Libyan government and Gadaffi's death was not certain.

Who ensured Gadaffi's and Libya's demise is very relevant.

Without Hillary's and Obama's intervention it may never have happened, but Hillary made sure it did.

Feeling giddy like Hillary now?
 
US Conservative said:
I dont, its just fascinating seeing the left try and take the moral high ground and then turn around and sit quietly by.
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Like Nancy Pelosi did today when she warned Republicans not to engage in politics with Obama's request for the use of force against the JV team.

Imagine Pelosi warning anyone not to engage in politics, because everyone knows she never did that. <thick sarcams injected>

She continues to impress me with her hypocritical lunacy.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064303485 said:
Like Nancy Pelosi did today when she warned Republicans not to engage in politics with Obama's request for the use of force against the JV team.

Imagine Pelosi warning anyone not to engage in politics, because everyone knows she never did that. <thick sarcams injected>

She continues to impress me with her hypocritical lunacy.
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That woman has lost it.
 
Μολὼν λαβέ;1064303458 said:
Last I heard from Obama, ISIS is a JV team and Al Qaeda is "on the run."
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OBAMA!!! figures...

I also heard from Hillary that she dodge sniper fire in Bosnia and that she was named after Sir Edmund Hillary. Both are false.
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No idea how how this is relevant to the current discussion, but ok.

Last I saw you denied Obama's role in Arab Spring.
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No I didnt.


Your question about Libya being under attack isn't relevant because without Hillary, the overthrow of the Libyan government and Gadaffi's death was not certain.
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No its completely relevant because Libya was already destabilized. I was responding to a claim.

Who ensured Gadaffi's and Libya's demise is very relevant.
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Nor did I say it wasnt.

Without Hillary's and Obama's intervention it may never have happened,
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Maybe, maybe not.

but Hillary made sure it did.
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You are correct that the airstrikes were crucial to the Green Army's defeat. Nor did I never say it wasnt relevant or never crucial in the defeat of Gadaffi.

Feeling giddy like Hillary now?
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No. Why would I feel "giddy"? And does Hilary feel "giddy" or something?
 
TheDemSocialist said:
OBAMA!!! figures...


No idea how how this is relevant to the current discussion, but ok.


No I didnt.



No its completely relevant because Libya was already destabilized. I was responding to a claim.


Nor did I say it wasnt.


Maybe, maybe not.


You are correct that the airstrikes were crucial to the Green Army's defeat. Nor did I never say it wasnt relevant or never crucial in the defeat of Gadaffi.


No. Why would I feel "giddy"? And does Hilary feel "giddy" or something?
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You are premising this with the statement that Hillary lying to get us into a war that killed Americans was ok because Libya was "already unstable". I welcome that flawed logic-can't imagine twisting myself in knots like that though.
 
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