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Jordan Unleashes Wrath on ISIS

But they make up, even using your numbers, 70% of the population. They have the overwhelming numerical superiority. If they're not willing to stand up and fight for what is right, why should we take them at all seriously? The fact is, they all sat by and did nothing while ISIS and ISIL ran rampant over them and now, they're not complaining, they're just whining how unfair it is that anyone blames them for the problem. Well what the hell did they do to stop it? They didn't stop Al Qaeda, they didn't stop the Taliban and now they're not stopping IS. Who the hell's fault is it when it happens in your own backyard?

Damn right!
 
It seems almost like he's trying his utmost vein-throbbingly bluest-in-the-face among world leaders to defend and de-demonize ISIS. Not only are his arguments irrelevant, they are disgusting.

He did not mention radical Islam or jihadists or Islamic extremists. He did, however, call ISIS a “brutal, vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism.”

Way to defend and de-demonize ISIS, Obama. Good job.
 
But they make up, even using your numbers, 70% of the population. They have the overwhelming numerical superiority. If they're not willing to stand up and fight for what is right, why should we take them at all seriously? The fact is, they all sat by and did nothing while ISIS and ISIL ran rampant over them and now, they're not complaining, they're just whining how unfair it is that anyone blames them for the problem. Well what the hell did they do to stop it? They didn't stop Al Qaeda, they didn't stop the Taliban and now they're not stopping IS. Who the hell's fault is it when it happens in your own backyard?

Jordan's Muslims are certainly helping to stop ISIS. That is what this thread is about. Sometimes I wonder if people even bother to read. They are so stuck on their ideas that any news that disputes them is thrown out the window. You are wrong and Muslims are proving it daily.
 
He's saying that you can't judge all muslims just by the actions of ISIS just like you can't call all Christians terrible just because other Christians have done terrible things.

Actually, that's not what he's saying at all.

Jordan's Muslims are certainly helping to stop ISIS.
Jordan's different to the effect that it is one of the few Middle-Eastern regimes whose domestic policy is not dictated from Washington.

Way to defend and de-demonize ISIS, Obama. Good job.
Oops, I meant to say jihadists. Look how the opposition looks for even the smallest slip-up to hinge desperately upon.
 
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Wrong! It's dispicable aplogism at it's worst.

Saying wrong doesn't make it wrong. That only works in conservative land.

If you have a quote from him saying "what ISIS is doing isn't really that bad" then post it. Otherwise quit embarrassing yourself.
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He did, however, call ISIS a “brutal, vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism.”

Oh yeah, totally defending them.
 
Jordan's Muslims are certainly helping to stop ISIS. That is what this thread is about. Sometimes I wonder if people even bother to read. They are so stuck on their ideas that any news that disputes them is thrown out the window. You are wrong and Muslims are proving it daily.

Now. What about 5 years ago? What about 14 years ago when Muslims were flying airplanes into the twin towers? This has been going on for decades, where have they been? Oh wait, one of their own got killed, now they're going to do something... :roll:
 
I hear Jordan's military, although small, is very well trained and equipped. The air force seems especially good, and today it looks like its pilots are doing some whipping--55 jihadists killed, one report says. The best of luck to these brave men.

I've seen reports for years that the U.S. has had special forces working with the Jordanians at a desert base in the northeast of their country. That's only about 250 miles from the jihadists' stronghold of Raqaa. These people--partly through the exodus of Syrian refugees they've caused--are a serious threat to Jordan. I think King Abdullah would be willing to put any facility in Jordan at our disposal for fighting these people.

Here's something someone else may have some ideas on. Why not use air strikes or cruise missiles to destroy the facilities supplying cities like Raqqa and Mosul and Ramadi and Tikrit with electricity? I think the so-called friendly civilians there may be a little too comfortable. Maybe they need a very sharp warning about what further miseries might be in store for them--e.g. bombing of their water treatment and sewage facilities, blowing up bridges and road junctions in the city--if they don't do a lot more to kick these bastards out from their midst. I see quite a large, cheering crowd turned out the other day in Raqaa to watch the savage murder of that pilot shown on a large screen outdoors.
 

I read that. While what he says is true, it was a looooong time ago, and the timing wasn't good. I suppose, looking at it in the light most favorable to intentions, he was trying to avoid people attacking innocent muslims (which has happened in our country), and to remind people that most muslims, esp in our country, are not like that. Still, the timing was really bad. It's probably the professor in him, to analyze and think on things.
 
When has there been one before? Queen Elizabeth stayed in London to be bombed, but since Poland's Sobieski and the Khans, who has taken up the sword before.

I would follow this guy, Presidents and senators, governors and congressmen whose kids will never have to fight make war easily, always have. But a king who goes into battle will have a fine army.

I admire him for it, but actually it's an irresponsible thing to do. He could get killed, leaving the country without his leadership in a dangerous time.
 
Did I just enter the ****ing twilight zone?

What, in the name of anything does the crusades have to do with providing safety and security for a nation? At a prayer breakfast, where the nation looks for guidance and assurance, what is a 'leader' doing when he raises the country's own black eyes, "slavery", always "slavery" like there have been no other social ills. Not how the Us raped the natives of their land, he says nothing of Mai Lai in Vietnam, the Dresden bombing; all of which are worthy of mention if the crusades and slavery are to get top billing../.

which is my way of saying why go there? The nation as been at war with Islamic terrorists since the early 1990's, all out war for 15 years that has not progressed but lost territory...why does he want the nation thinking about atrocities at all, and not "praying" for a resolution?

This isn't about atrocities or even lives lost to him, but image, the image that he was right about there not being any terrorists any more; he needs to change their image now to save his own.

He never said there are no more terrorists. Quite the opposite. He made the case, as the smartest people in the world have made, that you can't defeat terrorists by out and out war, since it's an ideology among varied groups of people that are forever recruiting, there is no country, there are no uniforms. It's a matter of using a carving knife to carve out the bad guys, work on winning hearts and minds, drones, and a combination of things. And that couldn't be done overnight.

It was a terrible thing for him to say at this time (about the crusades and slavery and all), but he was making a true point so that people remember that this isn't the first or only group that has done heinous things. These are actions shared by our country and other westerners throughout history. Still, his timing was terrible and feeds into the stereotype that he's not tough on terrorism (which isn't true, BTW; he's done more to get rid of terrorists than the Bush admin. did).
 
why when truth is spoken you people get upset and make up crap? did not these wicked things happen?

Yes, they did. A loooooong time ago. But not exactly this....burning a captured man who poses no threat. It's that the timing was bad, and he failed to point out the here and now of the ISIS actions towards innocent people.
 
Anyways... in the real world:

ALNAHER NEWS – “While several news agencies reported this piece, the Jordanian government spokesman Mohammed Al-Momani denied these reports about the participation of His Majesty King Abdullah II air sorties to hit Daash terrorist organization. Momani stressed in a statement to “Al-Ghad Newspaper” that whatever was disseminated throughput news sites and social networking sites in this regard is unfounded.”

Read more: UPDATE: GOVERNMENT DENIES — NOW THIS IS AWESOME: Jordanian King to fly bombing raids over ISIS » The Right Scoop -

http://www.newsweek.com/jordan-king-abdullah-airstrikes-isis-304686

The king told al-Kasasbeh’s father, Safi, that he would be “following up personally on Muath’s case.” Abdullah has received pilot training, so the report that he would be involved in airstrikes was not entirely unbelievable. Even so, his government quickly backtracked. Government spokesman Mohammad al-Momani told An-Nahar that the king would not fly a plane in the airstrikes. It remains unclear if the king will participate in another way in the operation.

Jordan denies King Abdullah II will personally fly jets against ISIS - Iraqi News

The Jordanian government has denied on Thursday, that Jordan’s King Abdullah II was going to take part in the combat missions by leading the air strikes against ISIS himself.

Western media says one thing based on a single image... Jordan government tells Arab media says another...
 
Saying wrong doesn't make it wrong. That only works in conservative land.

If you have a quote from him saying "what ISIS is doing isn't really that bad" then post it. Otherwise quit embarrassing yourself.
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Oh yeah, totally defending them.
Why does he need to offer a disclaimer about ancient deeds of Christians before he can condemn the current actions of radical Islam? Why does anyone?
 
I hear Jordan's military, although small, is very well trained and equipped. The air force seems especially good, and today it looks like its pilots are doing some whipping--55 jihadists killed, one report says. The best of luck to these brave men.

It would have been nice if they had videos of the pilots facial expressions as they bombed ISIS. Seeing your fellow pilot tortured like that I would think bombing the crap out the maggots would bring a certain pleasure to them.

Many have questioned if the Jordanians would follow through on their threats. I think they have a quite an impressive start so far.
 
King Abdullah is a brilliant statesman, diplomat and leader. He's a rare jewel in global politics, a man respected by his people because he strives to serve them, not oppress them. He's been an excellent friend and ally to the west, but always looks to what his own people need without apparent interest in expanding his own personal power.

I have admired him for decades. He has just displayed yet another reason why he's worthy of that admiration. Kudos to the king, who gave his people what they needed and always respects the unique tribal nuances in service to all Jordanians. A genuinely good man.
 
I admire him for it, but actually it's an irresponsible thing to do. He could get killed, leaving the country without his leadership in a dangerous time.

he didn't.

If, might and maybe are for losers and after the fact its just whining. If I let my kids play hockey they could loose their teeth doesn't ring bells after four years of playing and no teeth missing.

Sorry, irresponsible is sending people in to fight with their hands tied....

The guy's got balls, with one flight he rallies a nation and likely the other "allies" while America debates it and your president blathers on about the crusades, "Christian atrocities", slavery and such with no mention of his favorite word until last week "enemies" as in the **** offs that burn people alive. He cannot bring himself to even say "Islamic terrorist" while these slithering slime slaughter women and children in the name of "allah"...that is not leadership but cowardice.

If this prick had been around in 1939 he'd be rapping about Romans and Lions while Jews got turned into soap.
 
Saying wrong doesn't make it wrong. That only works in conservative land.

If you have a quote from him saying "what ISIS is doing isn't really that bad" then post it. Otherwise quit embarrassing yourself.
From the link:


Oh yeah, totally defending them.

Bulll****! Obama played two usual, "but...but...they did it tooooo!"
 
King Abdullah is a brilliant statesman, diplomat and leader. He's a rare jewel in global politics, a man respected by his people because he strives to serve them, not oppress them. He's been an excellent friend and ally to the west, but always looks to what his own people need without apparent interest in expanding his own personal power.

I have admired him for decades. He has just displayed yet another reason why he's worthy of that admiration. Kudos to the king, who gave his people what they needed and always respects the unique tribal nuances in service to all Jordanians. A genuinely good man.

Decades? He's only been king for 16 years.
 
He never said there are no more terrorists. Quite the opposite. He made the case, as the smartest people in the world have made, that you can't defeat terrorists by out and out war, since it's an ideology among varied groups of people that are forever recruiting, there is no country, there are no uniforms. It's a matter of using a carving knife to carve out the bad guys, work on winning hearts and minds, drones, and a combination of things. And that couldn't be done overnight.

It was a terrible thing for him to say at this time (about the crusades and slavery and all), but he was making a true point so that people remember that this isn't the first or only group that has done heinous things. These are actions shared by our country and other westerners throughout history. Still, his timing was terrible and feeds into the stereotype that he's not tough on terrorism (which isn't true, BTW; he's done more to get rid of terrorists than the Bush admin. did).

BULL****!

Obama campaigned on some crap about how terrorism had been defeated, he could not bring himself, and still can't, t say benghazi was terrorism. He has downplayed "terror" throughout his administration and if he, the greatest liar in history cannot come reasonably close to saying "let us not judge all of Islam" instead of blathering about Christian atrocities and whatever else he was getting at. To make that point you make that point, not use that point to excuse or downplay what Americans are seeing on their TV's on a daily basis.

He was the one who has been playing to the peace prize, making nice with these ****s, but when you look at his record, America started the war on terror in ONE country, became two under Bush and is now seven countries under Obama.

Yeah, oh, yeah, he needs there to be no terrorists all right, just like he needs you to believe you can "keep you plan" or "pay no attention to the man behind the curtain".

This is not a presidency, it is a circus side show
 
Decades? He's only been king for 16 years.

I admired him before he became king. He'd been a visible advocate for Jordan in the west long before his father died.
 
Why does he need to offer a disclaimer about ancient deeds of Christians before he can condemn the current actions of radical Islam? Why does anyone?

And what about the Romans...and what they did to Christians?

While we're at it, those Japanese were awfully rude in WWII, and Ghengus and the Khans, well they boiled babies in fat! Egypt had slaves!

And what the Portugese did to Africa and South America!

And then those ****in' Canadians and clubbing baby seals...oh! the horror! the horror!
 
I admired him before he became king. He'd been a visible advocate for Jordan in the west long before his father died.

Right...I'm betting you never heard of the dude before this week.
 
I admire him for it, but actually it's an irresponsible thing to do. He could get killed, leaving the country without his leadership in a dangerous time.

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Pray They're That Stupid.
 
Right...I'm betting you never heard of the dude before this week.

DiAnna can be prickly when messed with, but she's not a liar.
 
Right...I'm betting you never heard of the dude before this week.

You would most certainly be wrong; however, I'm not the topic of this thread.
 
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