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Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

Answer the complete question asked or was it a tad difficult for ya.

Ok...lol your only question was "recall that buck?".

No, I don't recall that. As once again, you've twisted words around. I said the Iran WOULD, as they SAID in a video. They've been saying it for years...apparently you've been living in a place without media.

In New York, defiant Ahmadinejad says Israel will be eliminated | Reuters

I hope this helped clear up your confusion and that you refrain from stretching the truth in the future. Best of luck on your endeavors :)
 
Ok...lol your only question was "recall that buck?".

No, I don't recall that. As once again, you've twisted words around. I said the Iran WOULD, as they SAID in a video. They've been saying it for years...apparently you've been living in a place without media.

In New York, defiant Ahmadinejad says Israel will be eliminated | Reuters

I hope this helped clear up your confusion and that you refrain from stretching the truth in the future. Best of luck on your endeavors :)
Here ya go Buck
I described what Obama is cool with Iran doing to them. Heck, Obama doesn't even wanna sanction his friends in Iran. He's ready to let them exterminate the jews...
 
Here ya go Buck

Now that you've proven my point...
what are your thoughts on Iran wanting to exterminate the jews? Is that something you're cool with, buck?
 
Actually he is correct. The Geneva Conventions correctly recognize that culpability for civilian casualties lies with those who militarize their positions.

But that's not what I'm discussing, as I think you know.
 
That is correct. In fact, US drone strikes produce civilian casualties at a pretty low rate - far better than the option of ground operations. In the meantime, those we are fighting know full well that the best bet they have to mitigate or reduce strikes is to produce inflated accounts of civilian casualties. I remember one of my buddies in Afghanistan had an incident where a house fired upon them, they returned fire, killed two people, and then insurgents came in, slaughtered a bunch of goats, smeared the blood everywhere, claimed Marines had gunned down 20 civilians, and got CNN to run the story before they were able to run it down. And gullible people back here in the States buy their narratives.

There are plenty of Western studies condemning the civilian deaths resulting from US military and CIA operations that don't rely on the enemies numbers, in fact you make a silly argument.
 
Now that you've proven my point...
what are your thoughts on Iran wanting to exterminate the jews? Is that something you're cool with, buck?
You seem to think Obama is cool with it.
Faster reply. I see you are getting faster at licking the screen clear of spittle.

As in the thread where you posted this crap, you run away with denials.
Denial, and oh that was sarcasm, or some sort or BS reply is your foxhole to run to.
Tell ya the truth, you are not worth the effort.

And as was mentioned on another thread, I wonder if you really are a wannabe.
 
Victim blaming reaches new lows. Damn those militarised weddings!

Did you know that during the Revolutionary War, your soldiers locked people inside of churches and then set them on fire?


[now's the part where you say, no, you stupid yank, that was just a dumb mel gibson movie]
[and then comes the part where I point out that you're just blaming the victim]
[and you say that argument is stupid]
[and then I say, yes, it is stupid, isn't it, to state that pointing out the artificial nature of particular claims of atrocities somehow works out to blaming the victim]
 
There are plenty of Western studies condemning the civilian deaths resulting from US military and CIA operations that don't rely on the enemies numbers, in fact you make a silly argument.

Sure. Pakistan, for example, states that approximately 3% of those killed in drone strikes are civilians.

The issue comes down to methodology. The infamous Lancet study, for example, simply took anyone who would tell them about casualties, and added all those up. Well between everyone's neighbors' cousin knowing-a-guy-who-was-there, the atrocities added up pretty quick, especially when those doing the reporting got into contests to one-up each other. Well I heard that the Americans killed 30 children! Well I heard that they killed 40 children and then raped all the mothers! Okay, so that's 70 dead kids and a mass rape we'll just score there.....

I've seen the level of preparation that goes into a U.S. strike. Trained to do it and helped do the prep work at one point in my career. The idea that we're out there just blowing people up nilly willy simply doesn't hold water.
 
You seem to think Obama is cool with it.

:shrug: he seems pretty relaxed about it. My bet would be that he doesn't really think that they'll do that, given his tendency to mirror-image.
 
:shrug: he seems pretty relaxed about it. My bet would be that he doesn't really think that they'll do that, given his tendency to mirror-image.

Do you think they would?
 
Global authorities that the US government conveniently refuses to recognise have correctly condemned civilian casualties by the US military and clandestine agencies. You can ignore it as it pleases you, but that doesn't change the fact.

"Global authorities"? LOL

What would you have us do differently?
 
Sure. Pakistan, for example, states that approximately 3% of those killed in drone strikes are civilians.

The issue comes down to methodology. The infamous Lancet study, for example, simply took anyone who would tell them about casualties, and added all those up. Well between everyone's neighbors' cousin knowing-a-guy-who-was-there, the atrocities added up pretty quick, especially when those doing the reporting got into contests to one-up each other. Well I heard that the Americans killed 30 children! Well I heard that they killed 40 children and then raped all the mothers! Okay, so that's 70 dead kids and a mass rape we'll just score there.....

I've seen the level of preparation that goes into a U.S. strike. Trained to do it and helped do the prep work at one point in my career. The idea that we're out there just blowing people up nilly willy simply doesn't hold water.

The military knows damn well that the drone program is far more harmful to innocent civilians than the conventional method.

Drone strikes — billed by President Barack Obama as tactically surgical and less deadly to civilians than conventional air power — are 10 times more likely to cause innocent casualties than bombs or missiles unleashed from U.S. jets, according to a new study based on classified military documents.

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/investi...s-more-likely-kill-civilians-us-jet-v19254842
 
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The military knows damn well that the drone program is far more harmful to innocent civilians than the conventional method.

Drone strikes — billed by President Barack Obama as tactically surgical and less deadly to civilians than conventional air power — are 10 times more likely to cause innocent casualties than bombs or missiles unleashed from U.S. jets, according to a new study based on classified military documents.

Study: US drone strikes more likely to kill civilians than US jet fire - NBC News

Can we get a show of hands? How many people here are hard core anti-Americans who despise this nation?
 
Of course you don't want to talk about that, because it blows your argument away.

How's that? You a denier of the numbers of civilians that have fallen prey to the US PD, too?
 
Gonna be interesting to see what Jordan's response to this is.

OMG. The horror. The evil. They must be stopped. But how?

One thing to do is to give poison pills to all military who enter the area, so they can kill themselves, rather than be tortured and killed like this.
 
Gonna be interesting to see what Jordan's response to this is.

Probably not much different then what they've been doing, continue to train Islamic extremists within their borders.
 
Can we get a show of hands? How many people here are hard core anti-Americans who despise this nation?

There are two lifelong friends. They each were high school football stars. Now they are each older, balding, overweight men. Similar as they are, one is a Republican and one is Democrat. The Republican looks in the mirror and sees the high school football player with cheerleaders on his arms. He smiles and says "What a stud I am". The Democrat looks in the mirror and sees a balding, overweight older man and says "I am fat. I need to get to the gym". Which one hates himself?
 
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Having just seen the ISIS video of the burning of this Jordanian pilot, I can see why it took almost a month for it to be released. We're not talking here about a 2 minute rough clip of a beheading. This is a 23 minute short film, a propaganda piece at its finest, and had it been presented at a film festival or for Oscar consideration it might well have won an award. This is a very polished and professional piece.

We need to get very serious about what's happening in Syria and Iraq right now - this ISIS endeavour is very well organized and appears to be very well financed. This is no Junior Varsity exercise, as someone famously and foolishly once said. This is, as my Canadian Prime Minister said, ISIS declaring war on us, all of us. We'd better wake up to that reality.

We have a winner:

...To carry out this strategy, ISIL needs a serious injection of recruits to build upon its current fighting force of about 30,000 at most, which is significantly fewer fighters than each of its opponent forces: the Kurdish Peshmerga fighters, Iraqi and Syrian government forces and even potential Sunni tribal rivals. Simply put, ISIL is surrounded by enemies with greater fighting power, and needs to grow its military strength to create an Islamic—and Sunni—state inside Iraq and Syria.

So why the beheadings? In a word, publicity: They increase the group’s profile as the biggest challenger to the supposed greatest enemy of Islam. This allows ISIL to draw from a significantly larger pool of recruits, many with strong anti-American sentiment, which ISIL desperately needs to fight local battles as the group tries to carve out a de facto state. Yes, the beheadings are meant to challenge and intimidate the Western public, but that is only a secondary benefit for ISIL, whose focus remains on defeating enemies in immediate proximity.

Read more: Why ISIL Beheads Its Victims - Robert A. Pape and Michael Rowley and Sarah Morell - POLITICO Magazine



Like I have been saying, the media needs to carefully consider to what extent they report the details of these executions.
 
OMG. The horror. The evil. They must be stopped. But how?

One thing to do is to give poison pills to all military who enter the area, so they can kill themselves, rather than be tortured and killed like this.

a better solution is to have superior numbers and firepower so we don't lose people to them as prisoners. and if someone is captured and murdered, all ISIS prisoners held should be killed immediately and as cruelly as possible

you have to out terror these assholes
 
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