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Jordan pilot hostage Moaz al-Kasasbeh 'burned alive'

Manc Skipper said:
They're winning the rightwing religious fear war. You're just aiding and abetting them from the sidelines by helping to spread it..
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Are we just misunderstanding how great the jihadists reallt are?
 
Declan said:
Psyops is a force multiplier. The US does it to "win hearts and minds". You are seeing ISIS go the other way with it.
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Your point?
 
Manc Skipper said:
They're winning the rightwing religious fear war. You're just aiding and abetting them from the sidelines by helping to spread it..
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Now that you have laid out what you don't want done, how about you tell us what should be done.
 
Declan said:
News outlets need to stop reporting the means of ISIS executions. It encourages them to come up with more barbaric ways of killing people as part of their psychological warfare efforts.
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I absolutely disagree.

In today's communications flooded society, there is no such thing as keeping news, any news, from the public. The only way to combat this is to expose it as broadly as possible and condemn it in every way possible. And condemning it in every way possible does not include catering to it and negotiating with it and political correct nonsense that tries to deflect from what it is.
 
MMC said:
Indeed it will be.....as the Jordanians threatened to Execute all ISIS members they have, if they killed him.
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Good afternoon MMC

At the very least, this female suicide bomber that ISIS has been trying to retrieve should be publicly executed by whatever means is available under Jordanian law. Otherwise, she will continue to be used as a bargaining chip.
 
Manc Skipper said:
They're winning the rightwing religious fear war. You're just aiding and abetting them from the sidelines by helping to spread it..
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An interesting take. I would suggest doing little for fear of their reaction is exactly what IS is hoping for. Rather makes your "rightwing religious fear" baloney look really foolish.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Good afternoon MMC

At the very least, this female suicide bomber that ISIS has been trying to retrieve should be publicly executed by whatever means is available under Jordanian law. Otherwise, she will continue to be used as a bargaining chip.
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Good day CJ. I read somewhere from someone who appeared to be in the know, that beheading eliminates the possibility of going to Paradise/Heaven, whatever.

Perhaps they should send her back in two boxes.
 
Unitedwestand13 said:
Figure out if there are any weaknesses in ISIS that we can exploit.
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What they believe in can be exploited.....including their death. They do not want to go to hell. They also fear Djinn.

Theres two.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Good afternoon MMC

At the very least, this female suicide bomber that ISIS has been trying to retrieve should be publicly executed by whatever means is available under Jordanian law. Otherwise, she will continue to be used as a bargaining chip.
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Hard to see what point will be made by executing someone who was sent, willingly, on a suicide mission. Executing captured fighters might have an effect but that woman was written off by everyone, including herself, long ago.
 
I was remiss in not saying earlier that my thoughts and prayers go out to the family of this Jordanian pilot who gave the ultimate sacrifice in service of his country.
 
ocean515 said:
Good day CJ. I read somewhere from someone who appeared to be in the know, that beheading eliminates the possibility of going to Paradise/Heaven, whatever.

Perhaps they should send her back in two boxes.
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Good afternoon, or good morning in your part of the world, Ocean

This angers me as it should anger most sane, decent people. It should do nothing but increase our determination to face this head on.
 
Grand Mal said:
Hard to see what point will be made by executing someone who was sent, willingly, on a suicide mission. Executing captured fighters might have an effect but that woman was written off by everyone, including herself, long ago.
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One less bargaining chip - if there aren't captive "associates" to be retrieve and/or countries willing to give money in ransom, the kidnapping of people becomes less valuable.
 
CanadaJohn said:
Good afternoon MMC

At the very least, this female suicide bomber that ISIS has been trying to retrieve should be publicly executed by whatever means is available under Jordanian law. Otherwise, she will continue to be used as a bargaining chip.
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Heya CJ. :2wave: I would be requesting that the Jordanians keep their word. Execute them publicly. Remove their heads from the bodies and do a fly over Raqqa drop the bodies. Without their heads. This way they understand.....they wont be going to heaven or hell with any full parts.
 
Declan said:
News outlets need to stop reporting the means of ISIS executions. It encourages them to come up with more barbaric ways of killing people as part of their psychological warfare efforts.
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WHAT?

OK, let's censor the news so Obama can claim there are no "Islamic Terrorists"?

Why does every solution of the left involve an attack on freedom of speech? You have one hammer so every problem involves a nail?

But then, Anthony Eden didn't want news of Hitler's concentration camps out either..I suppose the results of that would be OK with American socialists...

Oh wait!

I get it. If the atrocities had never been reported, Obama would not be bombing and have to be bending logic about Islam and terrorism and the fact his foreign policy is a shambles in a joke.

Now that makes sense
 
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apdst said:
This is important, because for Muslims, being burned to death, or even being burned after death is the worst possibility imaginable. They believe they can't get into heaven, if their body is burned.
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What does it say about Muslims who burn other Muslims then?
 
MMC said:
What they believe in can be exploited.....including their death. They do not want to go to hell. They also fear Djinn.

Theres two.
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Why not use the fact that they use social media to propogate their message, and sow confusion in their ranks by spreading false messages?
 
MMC said:
Indeed it will be.....as the Jordanians threatened to Execute all ISIS members they have, if they killed him.
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boil them in pig fat seems to be the proper response. and horrific deaths should be imposed on captured ISIS members. David Hackworth noted the only way to stop terrorists is to out-terror them
 
Fearandloathing said:
What does it say about Muslims who burn other Muslims then?
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Oooh I know this one F&L.
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What is.....Heretic? :mrgreen:
 
Declan said:
That you consider them twisted bastards is more or less what they want. They want to be feared.
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that is why debasing them when captured-maybe a lesbian western woman or better yet a female lesbian Mosad operative-is the way to go
 
Jordan has pretty good ties with the Arab League - I'm wondering if this will start nudging the league to start wanting to deal with ISIS. Let's see...
 
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